New Bassani for High power Dyna and FXR

[Good_Apollo]

I have been in contact back and forth about this pipe with Bassani for some time. They haven't released any media about it yet, but I was able to pre-order based on the drag number for the dyna model 1800-2229

I'll be putting it on my Don built 120r fat bob, replacing a RB racing pipe that has no low end.

Will post more pics once it is all mounted up.



Also looks like somebody is selling it on ebay already as well, just search for the drag number above.

drag
description
vendor_part_number
1800-2229     
EXHAUST 2:1 SS HI-HP FXD
1D3SS


1800-2230     
EXHAUST 2:1 SS HI-HP FXR
1FXR2SS

[turboprop]

I would be interested to see a dyno comparison between the two pipes.

[TheDog]

Can you tell header diameters?

[N-gin]

I know a few guys in Michigan running them on there 110s and 103. Some on the east coast as well.  They like them.
Also the sound if fantastic. More boomy then the Boarzilla I have.
Couple of broken brackets though, however Bassanni took care of them no questions asked.

I'd like to know the head pipe diameter.

[Good_Apollo]

I know a few guys in Michigan running them on there 110s and 103. Some on the east coast as well.  They like them.
Also the sound if fantastic. More boomy then the Boarzilla I have.
Couple of broken brackets though, however Bassanni took care of them no questions asked.

I'd like to know the head pipe diameter.

I'll verify when I unwrap it, but what they told me in email was 3-step 1-3/4" just at the port, then steps to 1-7/8 then to 2"

Not the same as the normal Road Rage 3 that is a two step pipe.

[Good_Apollo]

I would be interested to see a dyno comparison between the two pipes.

Guessing I'll lose a chunk of HP and pick up torque quite a bit earlier than 3200ish rpm, I'm running a custom made LSR that is 2" all the way to the ports, not stepped anywhere.

[1FSTRK]

I would be interested to see a dyno comparison between the two pipes.

Guessing I'll lose a chunk of HP and pick up torque quite a bit earlier than 3200ish rpm, I'm running a custom made LSR that is 2" all the way to the ports, not stepped anywhere.

Sound good , what are the rest of the build specs and will you be able to run back to back dyno runs and share them with us?

[Good_Apollo]

120r 10.9:1 - .010 over HD pistons. Tman 590 - Heads cleaned up by Don, no port work, just a cleanup and valve job and some softer springs, Darkhorse bottom with timken, HPI 58mm and Overflow AC

I won't be able to do back-to-back and will likely just use the TargetTune for a few weeks until I can get back to the tuner. At that point I plan on ditching the target tune all together and having them dial it in with just the powervision. I only have SAE sheet from the first run with the RB pipe, I'll look for it. Made really big HP and good TQ as well, but it was all top end.

[Nastytls]

1800-2229 doesn't pop up in the Drag catalog...

I'm not happy with the B-1 results, I think it holding back my top end hp.

[calgary56]

Engine is 2016 S&S 111"
Bore: 4.125" X Stroke: 4.125"
Compression: 9.8:1
S&S 585 cams
HPI-58D1-18 Delphi 58mm Throttle Body
HPI-DINJ-2 Injectors; 5.3 grams per second, Provides a fuel delivery rate of 4.3gps (33.3lbs/h)
Open Intake - K&N Round Filter
HP - 127   //   TQ - 124 Bassani B1 <-- current exhaust
HP - 119   //   TQ - 119 Bassani Road Rage <--- blew the baffle out of it

[FLDavetrain]

1800-2229 doesn't pop up in the Drag catalog...

I'm not happy with the B-1 results, I think it holding back my top end hp.

Agree. B1 seems to shine in the mid range. And although my 2" RB hasn't been tuned fully yet I can tell it won't run out of steam

[Good_Apollo]

1800-2229 doesn't pop up in the Drag catalog...

I'm not happy with the B-1 results, I think it holding back my top end hp.

I got the numbers directly from Bassani a month or so ago and then had my buddy who is a drag dealer place a pre-order. I haven't seen it advertised yet but it showed up at my door

[Nastytls]

Any updates on this pipe? Dyno results?

[calif phil]

1800-2229 doesn't pop up in the Drag catalog...

I'm not happy with the B-1 results, I think it holding back my top end hp.

They are in stock at Drag now. 

[Nastytls]

It's on their website now. Looks like it steps up to 2" where the B1 only steps to 1 7/8. I wonder if that really improves things over the B1? It still starts out at 1 3/4, where bagger pipes like the boarzilla start at 1 7/8.

[gordonr]

I would be interested to see a dyno comparison between the two pipes.

Guessing I'll lose a chunk of HP and pick up torque quite a bit earlier than 3200ish rpm, I'm running a custom made LSR that is 2" all the way to the ports, not stepped anywhere.

I don't think so. You should pick it up all the way through. 2" primary's are way to big for almost anything.

[harleytuner]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

[Nastytls]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

Being someone that does this for a living, why the this Bassani over the Sawicki or even a Boarzilla? The Sawicki steps up from 1 7/8 - 2'' - 2.5'' where as the Bassani starts at 1 3/4 and maxes out at 2''.

Just trying to understand.

[turboprop]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

The wait for a Sawicki pipe can be lengthy. Have a close friend that paid in full two years ago, still hasn't received his pipe. Every couple of month he will enquire and Tyler will tell him one more month. Tyler burned me as well, but as bad. Within the FXR community, Tyler does not have a good rep. The fact that bigger name builders are able to get his pipes for their show bikes is telling. It appears not all pigs are equal with Tyler.

The Bassani pipe was developed with my friend's (David B) TC124 equipped FXR. He said there were at least ten prototypes made with different specs. The final design should work very well on most 124" engines.

FWIW, Darryl Bassani is currently building a FXR/124" for himself.

[harleytuner]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

Being someone that does this for a living, why the this Bassani over the Sawicki or even a Boarzilla? The Sawicki steps up from 1 7/8 - 2'' - 2.5'' where as the Bassani starts at 1 3/4 and maxes out at 2''.

Just trying to understand.

Those are the 2 pipes the customer is interested in.  And as turbo alluded to, it's not worth the BS to get a Sawicki.  I do have a,distributor that shows,black in stock but he wants Stainless

[harleytuner]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

The wait for a Sawicki pipe can be lengthy. Have a close friend that paid in full two years ago, still hasn't received his pipe. Every couple of month he will enquire and Tyler will tell him one more month. Tyler burned me as well, but as bad. Within the FXR community, Tyler does not have a good rep. The fact that bigger name builders are able to get his pipes for their show bikes is telling. It appears not all pigs are equal with Tyler.

The Bassani pipe was developed with my friend's (David B) TC124 equipped FXR. He said there were at least ten prototypes made with different specs. The final design should work very well on most 124" engines.

FWIW, Darryl Bassani is currently building a FXR/124" for himself.

Ive never used the Basanni in an FXR but if like to,  I heard a lot of work went into it.

[turboprop]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

Being someone that does this for a living, why the this Bassani over the Sawicki or even a Boarzilla? The Sawicki steps up from 1 7/8 - 2'' - 2.5'' where as the Bassani starts at 1 3/4 and maxes out at 2''.

Just trying to understand.

The Boarzilla pipe is not available for the FXR.

[RXBOB]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

SPF do FXR pipes, cant go wrong with SPF

[Barrett]

Do any Harley exhaust systems show flow numbers for their products to see how they compare?

[HD/Wrench]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

The wait for a Sawicki pipe can be lengthy. Have a close friend that paid in full two years ago, still hasn't received his pipe. Every couple of month he will enquire and Tyler will tell him one more month. Tyler burned me as well, but as bad. Within the FXR community, Tyler does not have a good rep. The fact that bigger name builders are able to get his pipes for their show bikes is telling. It appears not all pigs are equal with Tyler.

The Bassani pipe was developed with my friend's (David B) TC124 equipped FXR. He said there were at least ten prototypes made with different specs. The final design should work very well on most 124" engines.

FWIW, Darryl Bassani is currently building a FXR/124" for himself.

well there are people that build other pipes .. Even right here in little ole TX    You know who I am talking about

[harleytuner]

Looks like my customer is going with the Road Rage III (Stainless).

[turboprop]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

The wait for a Sawicki pipe can be lengthy. Have a close friend that paid in full two years ago, still hasn't received his pipe. Every couple of month he will enquire and Tyler will tell him one more month. Tyler burned me as well, but as bad. Within the FXR community, Tyler does not have a good rep. The fact that bigger name builders are able to get his pipes for their show bikes is telling. It appears not all pigs are equal with Tyler.

The Bassani pipe was developed with my friend's (David B) TC124 equipped FXR. He said there were at least ten prototypes made with different specs. The final design should work very well on most 124" engines.

FWIW, Darryl Bassani is currently building a FXR/124" for himself.

well there are people that build other pipes .. Even right here in little ole TX    You know who I am talking about

I do and I really like him both as a person and as a welder. I hope you are doing your best to teach, coach and mentor him on the design/performance aspect.

[Nastytls]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

The wait for a Sawicki pipe can be lengthy. Have a close friend that paid in full two years ago, still hasn't received his pipe. Every couple of month he will enquire and Tyler will tell him one more month. Tyler burned me as well, but as bad. Within the FXR community, Tyler does not have a good rep. The fact that bigger name builders are able to get his pipes for their show bikes is telling. It appears not all pigs are equal with Tyler.

The Bassani pipe was developed with my friend's (David B) TC124 equipped FXR. He said there were at least ten prototypes made with different specs. The final design should work very well on most 124" engines.

FWIW, Darryl Bassani is currently building a FXR/124" for himself.

well there are people that build other pipes .. Even right here in little ole TX    You know who I am talking about

Is this someone that builds custom performance pipes? Do they have a website you could share?

[HD/Wrench]

I'm doing a,124 build in a FXR right now, it's   between this pipe and a Sawicki.  I'm pushing him to go this one.

The wait for a Sawicki pipe can be lengthy. Have a close friend that paid in full two years ago, still hasn't received his pipe. Every couple of month he will enquire and Tyler will tell him one more month. Tyler burned me as well, but as bad. Within the FXR community, Tyler does not have a good rep. The fact that bigger name builders are able to get his pipes for their show bikes is telling. It appears not all pigs are equal with Tyler.

The Bassani pipe was developed with my friend's (David B) TC124 equipped FXR. He said there were at least ten prototypes made with different specs. The final design should work very well on most 124" engines.

FWIW, Darryl Bassani is currently building a FXR/124" for himself.

well there are people that build other pipes .. Even right here in little ole TX    You know who I am talking about

I do and I really like him both as a person and as a welder. I hope you are doing your best to teach, coach and mentor him on the design/performance aspect.

I show him what they make for power and explain what is should have been. The last one was a EVO pipe  killer work tons of pie cuts but it failed to pull the HP number Tq curve was good but rather odd.. Hard to say what went wrong really I gave him a few ideas on what to try .. Seemed too small in my opinion , but it did tune well and thats a plus. I cannot say that for all the pipes I ahve tuned a  Sawicki and it tuned ok fit like  "Potty mouth" , did not make any more power than a off the shelf pipe.. Really fit poorly . End cap holes not machined properly once you installed it no way to get the billet cap out.. I had to re drill holes , as well the bracket for lower mounting would not line up.. I sent him video of it he got back to me once but nothing after that .. Just blew me off .   As for custom pipes i have a 143 here that we are altering ..  It would be a great chance for him to look at what we have what it makes and see if he can improve upon that .. Not a huge seller but then agan D&D is the only mass produces pipe right now  HPI does not have the bagger pipe done at this point and not sure they will ...  Been waiting takes time for sure .

[HD/Wrench]

Turboprop Pm box is full

[turboprop]

Turboprop Pm box is full

I get a lot of stuff. Try it now.

[92flhtcu]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

[HD/Wrench]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

no steps no merge ..  on a 110 drop on kit it made less than just about any other combo I have done .

[turboprop]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

You mean the one with the collector located in front of the mid control?

[92flhtcu]

Thanks Steve, maybe when they get the Gen-II out fopr the FXR it will be better, the Dyna guys love the Gen-II, but I have not had any experience with it yet

Again, thanks

[harleytuner]

Looks like my customer is going with the Road Rage III (Stainless).

OK that changed, now we are going with the Trask Assualt 2:1.

[HD/Wrench]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

You mean the one with the collector located in front of the mid control?

The bassani with road rage II B1 is not a great pipe either .. The Longer version works much better from what I have tuned

[Barrett]

Looks like my customer is going with the Road Rage III (Stainless).

OK that changed, now we are going with the Trask Assualt 2:1.

That pipe looks good but it says it's good to 120HP.
I'll be needing a new system for my 117". I have a ProPipe now.
I like how the RRIII looks. 

[harleytuner]

Looks like my customer is going with the Road Rage III (Stainless).

OK that changed, now we are going with the Trask Assualt 2:1.

That pipe looks good but it says it's good to 120HP.
I'll be needing a new system for my 117". I have a ProPipe now.
I like how the RRIII looks.

Well damn, thanks for pointing that out, I didn't see that claim anywhere.  A little research is in order

[turboprop]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

You mean the one with the collector located in front of the mid control?

The bassani with road rage II B1 is not a great pipe either .. The Longer version works much better from what I have tuned

Bassani recently released a new pipe specifically for 124" TC engines in an FXR frame. A friend of mine in the FXR community volunteered his bike for the fitting and testing and was on site for many of the dyno pulls that were made  with the various designs. I forget the name of the pipe but think it has High Output in its name. I have only seen pics of it in stainless and IMO, it looks very attractive and appears to have have the necessary design features to support a high flowing big block. I should have one here this month and promised Darryl I would give him a dyno sheet showing A-B comparisons between it and my Guppy pipe on the 124" Smack-A-Hoe engine.

[Barrett]

https://traskperformance.com/product/assault-series-2-1-exhaust/

-Suited for stock outputs up to 120 horsepower outputs

[turboprop]

This is the high output pipe I mentioned below.

http://www.bassanipipes.com/greglutzka2into1stainlessdynasystem-1-1.aspx

[Don D]

That is a great looking pipe

[turboprop]

That is a great looking pipe

Yea, Darryl did this one right. There were a bunch of prototype pipes with different dimensions that were tested not he dyno. I think the people at Feuling were involved. Several of my buddies with big block FXRs already have one of these pipes and have reported that they fit very well. Unfortunately, none of them have any dyno data of any real value (A picture of half the dyno screen is of little to no value IMO).

[HD/Wrench]

His new S&S for the bagger worked great . Straight muffler not megaphone I was very impressed with that one .

[Nastytls]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

You mean the one with the collector located in front of the mid control?

The bassani with road rage II B1 is not a great pipe either .. The Longer version works much better from what I have tuned

Bassani recently released a new pipe specifically for 124" TC engines in an FXR frame. A friend of mine in the FXR community volunteered his bike for the fitting and testing and was on site for many of the dyno pulls that were made  with the various designs. I forget the name of the pipe but think it has High Output in its name. I have only seen pics of it in stainless and IMO, it looks very attractive and appears to have have the necessary design features to support a high flowing big block. I should have one here this month and promised Darryl I would give him a dyno sheet showing A-B comparisons between it and my Guppy pipe on the 124" Smack-A-Hoe engine.

Are you unhappy with your Guppy? Do you think it will perform close to your Guppy?

[turboprop]

Anyone on here have experience with Two Brothers racing's Comp-S for the FXR's?

You mean the one with the collector located in front of the mid control?

The bassani with road rage II B1 is not a great pipe either .. The Longer version works much better from what I have tuned

Bassani recently released a new pipe specifically for 124" TC engines in an FXR frame. A friend of mine in the FXR community volunteered his bike for the fitting and testing and was on site for many of the dyno pulls that were made  with the various designs. I forget the name of the pipe but think it has High Output in its name. I have only seen pics of it in stainless and IMO, it looks very attractive and appears to have have the necessary design features to support a high flowing big block. I should have one here this month and promised Darryl I would give him a dyno sheet showing A-B comparisons between it and my Guppy pipe on the 124" Smack-A-Hoe engine.

Are you unhappy with your Guppy? Do you think it will perform close to your Guppy?

Absolutely not unhappy with my Guppy. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Unfortunately, I have three FXRs, all with 124" engines and only one Guppy pipe.

As for comparisons of the two pipes. Hard to say. The new Bassani pipe is going on a bike that has a very different engine package than the 124" Smack-A-Hoe that the Guppy is on. I plan to do the A-B comparisons eventually on all three engines.

[Nastytls]

Ahh, I see. Any chance you could post the before and after here?

Too bad Guppies aren't available anymore, it would solve a lot of issues for Dyna riders.

[92flhtcu]

That Bassani looks pretty sweet, and thats coming from a guy that does not sell that brand

[HD/Wrench]

Is Cone still making the dyna pipe ??

[FXDBI]

This is a picture of a turbo set up done by Unobtainium welding up here in Alberta. They are doing this for Calgary Harley Davidson for the bike show.  Bob

[1FSTRK]

You have to love show bikes. The guy will probably claim he rides that 6-7000 miles a year but unless his leg looks like a well done roast I would not believe him.

[HD/Wrench]

that pipe does look like it would radiate some heat onto your inner leg.. 

[harleytuner]

The Basanni III showed up today.  Looks nice

[N-gin]

short pipes never work well, at least IMO. Sawiki, TBR, all dip heavy. Ill stick with my Borezilla. I would definatly like to see the results of the Bassanni III

[harleytuner]

short pipes never work well, at least IMO. Sawiki, TBR, all dip heavy. Ill stick with my Borezilla. I would definatly like to see the results of the Bassanni III

It'll be awhile to get the dyno results for me. The frame is off to the powder coasters, waiting on a,few more parts to show up. Amd there's still parts,decisions that haven't been made.  I have the crate 124 in, Baker 6 speed, pipe, clutch is coming,  front end is on its way but not sure when it'll get here.  Still need to decide on what chain drive to use.   It'll be awhile yet.   Otta not a top priority job neither.  I have a lot of builds going and work on this as I feel like it.  I'm posting pics, on Instagram

[N-gin]

short pipes never work well, at least IMO. Sawiki, TBR, all dip heavy. Ill stick with my Borezilla. I would definatly like to see the results of the Bassanni III

It'll be awhile to get the dyno results for me. The frame is off to the powder coasters, waiting on a,few more parts to show up. Amd there's still parts,decisions that haven't been made.  I have the crate 124 in, Baker 6 speed, pipe, clutch is coming,  front end is on its way but not sure when it'll get here.  Still need to decide on what chain drive to use.   It'll be awhile yet.   Otta not a top priority job neither.  I have a lot of builds going and work on this as I feel like it.  I'm posting pics, on Instagram

I have a chain drive. went with PBI spockets and a Vulcan works spacer. My chain is the Black and Gold 3D.

I do have extra set off my 09 Dyna, trans sprocket .5in 24T, and a rear 54T steel, I have the Vulcan spacer too. its all collecting dust on the shelf looking for a good home. Only put 3500 miles on it till I decided to go to a touring cush drive, and chain conversion.

[motolocopat]

Any updates/new experiences on this pipe or others for a 110"-124" Dyna?

[Sambo62]

I have short RR2 (for 13.5" shocks) and just had my engine built and tuned.  Based on discussions and comparisons to other similar builds, there is a torque hit down low but 3k and above it really starts to come in and makes power out to 6k.  Speaking to the builder and tuner, a longer pipe would have helped in the 2-3.5k range.

Having said that, I am not at all unhappy with the results.  Picking up bike tomorrow and will post before and after results in dyno section when I have time.

[FLDavetrain]

I have the  newer 3 stepped big motor version. On my second one however. Install was effortless but developed a significant crack at the O2 sensor bung weld, front pipe  right at the heavy bend of pipe. They sent new header no charge. Hopefully just a bad weld and not design flaw. Bike is 124 with very good torque curve into high 140's.

[ndmp40]

I have been in contact back and forth about this pipe with Bassani for some time. They haven't released any media about it yet, but I was able to pre-order based on the drag number for the dyna model 1800-2229

I'll be putting it on my Don built 120r fat bob, replacing a RB racing pipe that has no low end.

Will post more pics once it is all mounted up.



Also looks like somebody is selling it on ebay already as well, just search for the drag number above.

drag
description
vendor_part_number
1800-2229     
EXHAUST 2:1 SS HI-HP FXD
1D3SS


1800-2230     
EXHAUST 2:1 SS HI-HP FXR
1FXR2SS

What is the OD of the collector where it connects to the megaphone muffler?

Can you post of picuture of the backside of the muffler showing the mounting flange?

Thanks in advance.

[CVOKing]

The real fix for the soft low end is quit messing with them short pipes. Throw a zilla on it