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95 inch ping

Started by egstandard, December 04, 2018, 10:40:09 AM

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trex

Quote from: Hossamania on January 20, 2019, 09:38:07 AM
Quote from: trex on January 20, 2019, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: egstandard on December 04, 2018, 01:43:13 PM
Like a Daytona Twin Tech?
I have a 95in, 2003 with 10.5-1 and Wood Tw8 cams and had ping issues with DTT ignitions, went through two of them. Changed to Dynatek and no more ping

Interesting. When I do a rebuild, I will look into the Dynatek if I still have ping issues. Only have 112,000 abusive miles, so no time soon........
Hoss I had two DTT ignitions and the first one went out and they sent me another free of charge. The second one still had ping and then it quit after a year or so and I sent it to them. They sent it back claiming there was nothing wrong with it, but while it was away I put my stock ignition in and it ran ok. When I got theirs back it still wouldn't run so I sold it to a guy on this site that said he would take it if DTT said it was good, sure buddie. I've had the Dynatek for a couple or 3 years now with no issues and NO ping. Very happy with it. Plus they are closer to my Hawaii home, Las Vegas.

egstandard

Well, I've changed the equation. Got rid of the V&H True Duals and Cobra slipons. I have installed a Supertrapp Supermeg with the recommended 20 discs and closed end cap. Don't know if that will change things, and i haven't ridden it. (Snow and Ice). But I'll be in Florida in a few weeks and excited to see how it does.

sharkoilfield

Have installed S&S IST ignition on 2 different builds. Wouldn't consider anything else on a carbed bike now...

egstandard

Ok, so nothing has changed with the new pipe in the ping department. Like I said previously, not bad, but I have decided to buy a new ignition. I'm pretty sure I won't put it on a dyno do to money considerations. That being said, should it be the Dynatek or Daytona Twin Tec? And why?
Thanks.

Hillside Motorcycle

Quote from: BanditLoon2003 on December 24, 2018, 04:20:42 PM
2003 FLHT 95 cu in ,Andrews 21, DDT ignition, also had ping . took it to Brian at Valley Racing and have been running it for quite a few years on his tune with no ping and it proved to be a great highway cruiser.

Just got off the phone with Brian.
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

Hossamania

Quote from: egstandard on February 26, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
Ok, so nothing has changed with the new pipe in the ping department. Like I said previously, not bad, but I have decided to buy a new ignition. I'm pretty sure I won't put it on a dyno do to money considerations. That being said, should it be the Dynatek or Daytona Twin Tec? And why?
Thanks.

Trex recommends the Dynatek after past experiences with the DTT, so I would tend to lean toward the Dynatek. My experience with the DTT has not gotten completely rid of ping, so if replaced, I will probably go with the Dynatek.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

Y2KRKNG

They're both going to let you retard the timing(also set your rpm limit) and get rid of ping. If one is $100 less, get it.

I'd say on the Dynatek you'll want 34A in the summer and 36A in winter
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jmorton10

Not to be negative here, but years back I built an Underground Head 95" motor with Wood TW-6HG cams that was an absolute ping monster (& was VERY hard to start with constant kickbacks even with compression releases).

I swapped from a DTT ignition to the IST at considerable cost & it made absolutely no difference whatever.  It was still hard to start & still pinged on roll-on hard throttle.  I finally swapped out the Wood cams for a Wild Thing set that Mike Roland recommended & all the problems disappeared.

The new cams made it start so easily I didn't even need the CR's & all the pinging was totally gone.

~John
HC 124", Dragula, Pingel air shift W/Dyna Shift Minder & onboard compressor, NOS

trex

March 04, 2019, 08:40:58 AM #58 Last Edit: March 04, 2019, 08:50:03 AM by trex
Quote from: Hossamania on February 26, 2019, 08:46:12 AM
Quote from: egstandard on February 26, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
Ok, so nothing has changed with the new pipe in the ping department. Like I said previously, not bad, but I have decided to buy a new ignition. I'm pretty sure I won't put it on a dyno do to money considerations. That being said, should it be the Dynatek or Daytona Twin Tec? And why?
Thanks.

Trex recommends the Dynatek after past experiences with the DTT, so I would tend to lean toward the Dynatek. My experience with the DTT has not gotten completely rid of ping, so if replaced, I will probably go with the Dynatek.
Hoss, I'd like to hear your opinion of the Dynatek if you get one, like I wrote I could never get rid of a ping no matter what settings I tried and talked to DTT on the phone, then two quit working. NO problems and NO ping with the Dynatek AND it is easier to set. No I don't work for them either. Also the dials are accessible  by just taking off the seat and with the DTT the side cover and electrical panel have to come off on my 03 FXD to get to the dials. Half hour job and pain in the az.

Hossamania

Quote from: trex on March 04, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on February 26, 2019, 08:46:12 AM
Quote from: egstandard on February 26, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
Ok, so nothing has changed with the new pipe in the ping department. Like I said previously, not bad, but I have decided to buy a new ignition. I'm pretty sure I won't put it on a dyno do to money considerations. That being said, should it be the Dynatek or Daytona Twin Tec? And why?
Thanks.

Trex recommends the Dynatek after past experiences with the DTT, so I would tend to lean toward the Dynatek. My experience with the DTT has not gotten completely rid of ping, so if replaced, I will probably go with the Dynatek.
Hoss, I'd like to hear your opinion of the Dynatek if you get one, like I wrote I could never get rid of a ping no matter what settings I tried and talked to DTT on the phone, then two quit working. NO problems and NO ping with the Dynatek AND it is easier to set. No I don't work for them either. Also the dials are accessible  by just taking off the seat and with the DTT the side cover and electrical panel have to come off on my 03 FXD to get to the dials. Half hour job and pain in the az.

Trex, if my DTT craps out, then I'll let you know. Until then, the DTT stays. Easy to access under the side panel on the RoadKing. Payed for and working, so no new one just to spend money. For now, and the last 14 years, I just downshift, ping gone.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

egstandard

I got the dynatek TC88-3. Installed on my bike. A few trial and error runs on different settings, and I have found one that I and my bike are happy with. What a world of difference. All ping gone, pulls hard through the entire rpm range. Thank you all for your help and suggestions.

Hossamania

Really glad to hear that worked for you. Maybe I'll have to look at getting one sooner than I thought.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

speedzter

Quote from: Hossamania on March 05, 2019, 03:05:33 PM
Really glad to hear that worked for you. Maybe I'll have to look at getting one sooner than I thought.

Or you could buy a cable and customise your map on the DTT  :SM:

egstandard

I should mention that it was an 86 degree day, fresh tank of 93 octane, and no octane boost. Boy it will be nice to not carry octane boost around with me. And hopefully 95 degree days won't change anything.

Hossamania

Quote from: speedzter on March 05, 2019, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: Hossamania on March 05, 2019, 03:05:33 PM
Really glad to hear that worked for you. Maybe I'll have to look at getting one sooner than I thought.

Or you could buy a cable and customise your map on the DTT  :SM:

That was always on my list, never quite got to it.

Quote from: egstandard on March 06, 2019, 08:51:21 AM
I should mention that it was an 86 degree day, fresh tank of 93 octane, and no octane boost. Boy it will be nice to not carry octane boost around with me. And hopefully 95 degree days won't change anything.

The octane boost never did help with mine. The weird thing is that it seems to have stopped pinging for the most part. I've been working on a vacuum leak for a while, maybe I got it fixed and that was part of the issue the whole time.
Or, it has burned a dish into the Pistons and lowered the compression, and I'm one good detonation away from burning a hole through them!
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

egstandard

God I hope not! I found that the Amsoil octane boost would help it some. And the Lucas in the individual bottles for 6 gallons for motorcycles was decent also. But the stuff from the auto parts store did not help. And I kept a small measuring cup with me for proper dosage per gallon.

trex

Quote from: Hossamania on March 04, 2019, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: trex on March 04, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: Hossamania on February 26, 2019, 08:46:12 AM
Quote from: egstandard on February 26, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
Ok, so nothing has changed with the new pipe in the ping department. Like I said previously, not bad, but I have decided to buy a new ignition. I'm pretty sure I won't put it on a dyno do to money considerations. That being said, should it be the Dynatek or Daytona Twin Tec? And why?
Thanks.

Trex recommends the Dynatek after past experiences with the DTT, so I would tend to lean toward the Dynatek. My experience with the DTT has not gotten completely rid of ping, so if replaced, I will probably go with the Dynatek.
Hoss, I'd like to hear your opinion of the Dynatek if you get one, like I wrote I could never get rid of a ping no matter what settings I tried and talked to DTT on the phone, then two quit working. NO problems and NO ping with the Dynatek AND it is easier to set. No I don't work for them either. Also the dials are accessible  by just taking off the seat and with the DTT the side cover and electrical panel have to come off on my 03 FXD to get to the dials. Half hour job and pain in the az.

Trex, if my DTT craps out, then I'll let you know. Until then, the DTT stays. Easy to access under the side panel on the RoadKing. Payed for and working, so no new one just to spend money. For now, and the last 14 years, I just downshift, ping gone.
On a Dyna ,my 03 FXD anyway the side panel AND electric panel need to come off, that include s the coil too. It's a pain but the Dynatek you just take off the seat and can see the adjusters and use a needle nose to turn them. Much easier

Don D

Be sure there is no oil consumption. Oil in the burn can cause this.

Hossamania

Quote from: HD Street Performance on March 06, 2019, 11:17:51 AM
Be sure there is no oil consumption. Oil in the burn can cause this.

I use some oil, but very little, maybe 1/2 quart in 2000 miles of spirited riding.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

muskwa

What settings did you finally land on with the Dynatek, just out of curiosity?

muskwa

And what is your CCP?

egstandard

30B. Don't know the CCP offhand.

trex

Quote from: egstandard on March 07, 2019, 12:48:11 PM
30B. Don't know the CCP offhand.
I also have my Dynatek set at 30B on my 95incher, 10.5-1 comp CCP 200 when checked couple years ago