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Title: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 19, 2017, 01:23:37 AM
Friend has a 66FLH , basicly stock , been sitting long time , the Engine needs LOTs of topend work , thinking on turning it to a Panhead , never plans to ever sell it , What all of the 66 parts would work in the swap . Topend oil system on late Pan and early shovel were same wernt they ?
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: HogMike on December 19, 2017, 05:22:15 AM
If I remember the head bolt pattern is different.
Then pretty much just exhaust and the other top end brackets carb, etc
Very easy swap IMO
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: HogMike on December 19, 2017, 05:23:30 AM
If it was me, I'd keep it stock 66
But
That's
JMHO
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 19, 2017, 11:56:51 AM
Quote from: HOGMIKE on December 19, 2017, 05:23:30 AM
If it was me, I'd keep it stock 66
But
That's
JMHO
just kicking around the idea since it kinda needs new cylinders and heads ayway, got plenty of other bikes , thinking might want to have 66 pan for a while . basicly would just need Pan Heads and Cylinders ?
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: kd on December 19, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
The 66 heads were the best of the slabside model. The barrels are still around if you need them too but they will take a .060 overbore with ease. Pistons in that size are not that rare either. It can probably (actually for sure) be fixed for less cost or trouble than switching over. You will end up with a bastard vintage bike if you take that route so include the loss of value in your estimate.  :wink:

If it's been sitting that long it shouldn't be a problem taking your time to shop around either.
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 20, 2017, 01:59:53 AM
yep
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: Hillside Motorcycle on December 20, 2017, 03:23:23 AM
Quote from: HOGMIKE on December 19, 2017, 05:23:30 AM
If it was me, I'd keep it stock 66
But
That's
JMHO

First year of the generator Shovel.
Keep it stock. :up: :up:
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: harley_cruiser on December 20, 2017, 03:36:34 AM
http://www.dragspecialties.com/products/?productId=320409 (http://www.dragspecialties.com/products/?productId=320409)
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 20, 2017, 05:06:06 AM
Quote from: Harley_Cruiser Rocker Lockers on December 20, 2017, 03:36:34 AM
http://www.dragspecialties.com/products/?productId=320409 (http://www.dragspecialties.com/products/?productId=320409)
Thanks
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 20, 2017, 05:09:37 AM
WTF !  know what a 66 is
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 20, 2017, 06:39:42 AM
Quote from: kd on December 19, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
The 66 heads were the best of the slabside model. The barrels are still around if you need them too but they will take a .060 overbore with ease. Pistons in that size are not that rare either. It can probably (actually for sure) be fixed for less cost or trouble than switching over. You will end up with a bastard vintage bike if you take that route so include the loss of value in your estimate.  :wink:

If it's been sitting that long it shouldn't be a problem taking your time to shop around either.
OK .....
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: hbkeith on December 20, 2017, 06:40:37 AM
Quote from: Scott P on December 20, 2017, 03:23:23 AM
Quote from: HOGMIKE on December 19, 2017, 05:23:30 AM
If it was me, I'd keep it stock 66
But
That's
JMHO

First year of the generator Shovel.
Keep it stock. :up: :up:
Realy ?
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: HogMike on December 20, 2017, 06:46:57 AM
It looks to me like you got some specific answers to your questions, along with some opinions of other people thinking out loud what THEY thought.
This forum is full of useful information if you can weed through all the rest.
I've personally never done the conversion you're talking about, but I DO have a set of cylinders cast with a boss for either 65 or 66 head bolt pattern. Have no idea where they came from so I didn't mention it before.
I try to be as specific as possible when asking questions to avoid feedback that I have to wade through to get my answers.
A BS session in a bar to me is a exercise in what COULD be done..
If your friend is serious to proceed there are people here that can help with the parts list.
Sorry I (we )have pissed on your parade.
Again, JMHO
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: HogMike on December 20, 2017, 06:49:05 AM
Just saw your edit
:missed:
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: ghostrider on December 20, 2017, 09:18:54 AM
STD make lots of different panheads that would work.  http://stddevelopment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=15 (http://stddevelopment.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14&Itemid=15)
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: Deye76 on February 18, 2018, 01:37:44 PM
I know it's a old thread. Keep the OE heads, just for originality, get some STD or S&S Pan heads designed for the Shovel intake, and enjoy.
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: bobrk1 on January 09, 2019, 08:13:06 AM
I  see  a lot  of  pan to  shovel  wouldn't  think  it be  that  hard , but  I've  been  known  to  be  wrong 
Title: Re: shovel to pan
Post by: Hillside Motorcycle on January 11, 2019, 01:17:53 PM
Nothing wrong with the OEM castings, for the 74" application.
I have over 60,000 on my 1967 FLH, with OE castings.