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Offline 1canvas

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Primary locking tool
« on: December 06, 2018, 10:27:24 AM »
I was looking for a primary locking tool and seen the Jimís for 50.00 and a lot of cheaper ones, does it matter?
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 10:59:07 AM »
As per the above link, the length is important and it is not a one size fits all kind of thing.  One size will fit several but you got decades of different models. 

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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 11:02:31 AM »
I made one out of an old lawn mower blade. :wink:

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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 12:16:51 PM »
I made a bar out of a piece of 1/2Ē cutting board plastic and I just snapped.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 12:28:14 PM »
Made my own with a piece of stainless flat bar stays in my tool box thanks to this site
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 12:39:47 PM »
I made a bar out of a piece of 1/2Ē cutting board plastic and I just snapped.

Yeah, plastic is a little overwhelmed by over 100 pounds of torque on steel gears!
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 01:15:14 PM »
I seen a video on You Tube of a guy that says his was made out of wood.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2018, 01:31:08 PM »
I seen a video on You Tube of a guy that says his was made out of wood.

Like plastic, it's a good way to get hurt. Make or buy a metal one and be done with it. And don't use the stair step one.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2018, 02:36:45 PM »
I seen a video on You Tube of a guy that says his was made out of wood.

Like plastic, it's a good way to get hurt. Make or buy a metal one and be done with it. And don't use the stair step one.

Whatís the issue with the stair step one?
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2018, 03:10:48 PM »
I just ordered a Jimís bar, I wasnít hot on that step block. Years ago I used a bar.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2018, 03:14:26 PM »
I made mine from ash. Straight grain, 1/2Ē thick, 2Ē wide. Iíve used it several times, no trouble. 175#ís on comp nut.

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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2018, 03:23:36 PM »
I just ordered a Jimís bar, I wasnít hot on that step block. Years ago I used a bar.

So you paid $50 instead of $15.   :idunno:
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2018, 03:31:07 PM »
You can get 3/16" Stock Bar from Lowes for $5 and make all four https://www.dropbox.com/s/e20tv0vz0i4yut7/Primary%20Locking%20Bars.jpg?dl=0
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2018, 04:08:05 PM »
I would also like to know the "why not" of using the "step" style?? is it stressing anything/stretching the chain?
Just want to know
Thanks
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2018, 04:50:59 PM »
steps were used for years with no problems then .......

I forget the year, lets say 2006, they changed the locating of the inner primary on the engine case and trannie,

off the cuff the did away with some of the locating dowels AND if the Squirrel Steps were used it caused the inner to rotate slightly and break the seal it had, other cracking damage was likely as well

safest thing to do was just use a locking bar

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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2018, 05:13:54 PM »
FSG, thanks, I've been using one for years on Evo's and lately, my 2004 Flh.
I've had the drawing of the bar style off of here for years of two different ones, just never made either of them, and now I see there is another
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2018, 06:19:43 PM »
For my 12 EG I just cut a piece of aluminum flat (1.5" x 1/4") down until it fit.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2018, 06:25:13 PM »
I was just going to comment on this but you beat me to it. When I worked in the aircraft shop we had to lock gears all the time to undo locking nuts etc. If I had ever used a piece of steel I would have caught holy hell. Aluminum only! Chipping a sprocket with steel is a real possibility.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2018, 06:32:08 PM »
I would also like to know the "why not" of using the "step" style?? is it stressing anything/stretching the chain?
Just want to know
Thanks
On the late models the engine sprocket it larger dia. Steps might not match up correctly. Personally, I think the step is a cave man method, slightly better then shoving an old screwdriver handle in there. Now that's hard on the chain. Locking bar a larger surface of the chain to take the loads.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2018, 06:59:26 PM »
 :agree:  .... and I expect it's not to friendly on the sprocket shaft that is being forced of it''s axis from one location.  With the bar you share (spread out) the load on the chain and between the 2 sprockets and shafts.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2018, 07:58:47 PM »
steps were used for years with no problems then .......

I forget the year, lets say 2006, they changed the locating of the inner primary on the engine case and trannie,

off the cuff the did away with some of the locating dowels AND if the Squirrel Steps were used it caused the inner to rotate slightly and break the seal it had, other cracking damage was likely as well

safest thing to do was just use a locking bar

Yes, see TT212 in Tech Tips (that you posted before)

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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2018, 08:10:30 PM »
Yes, see TT212 in Tech Tips (that you posted before)

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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2018, 08:35:47 PM »
For my 12 EG I just cut a piece of aluminum flat (1.5" x 1/4") down until it fit.

Any metal softer than the drive parts will do. Mine's 2" x 1/4" Mild steel.
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Re: Primary locking tool
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2018, 12:52:27 AM »
I always used the step one , this makes me want to make some up at work ,  wandering why the 2" x 1/2" notch in FSG drawing ?