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Offline dubepj

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1985 FXWG
« on: October 30, 2017, 10:47:11 AM »
Have a chance to buy a very stock 1985 Wide glide.  Understand engine bolted to frame with no rubber mounts.  How bad is the vibration going down the road about 70 MPH.
Thanks for input.

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 11:28:21 AM »
Their also a four speed transmission, but high gear is 1:1 as is a five speed, final drive is a bit low, don't remember exactly the ratio. I don't know what the depth of your early HD riding experience is. But they're ok, you get a little buzz in the bars and foot pegs. Not anything really bad if it's a stocker. But it's no FXR, Dyna or touring bike for sure.


Are you sure it's not an FXWG?
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 12:30:05 PM »
You are correct. It is a FXWG.  my mistake.  I have owned many Harley's.  put many miles on a 1997 FLH Classic.  Also 1996 Dyan low rider.  Both rubber mounted.  My son had a 1999 Fatboy.  Not rubber mounted nor did it have the counter balance in the engine.  It wasn't that bad but my memory may be fading.
Also had a couple Shovelheads.  1983 model I loved but it had a sweet spot about 65 MPH where the driving lamps didn;t shake too bad.
I love the way this 1985 wide Glide looks.  has the kick start and belt drive.  Has about 30000 miles a darn near stock.  Hope it  isn't too hard to start with the kicker.

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 01:14:07 PM »
my 99 FLSTC shakes a little more than my 98 FLHTC but I still like to ride it---even on trips

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 01:31:07 PM »
I bet it rides better then your 97 flht

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2017, 03:37:22 PM »
 I have the 1985 superglide (FXEF)

I moved the gearing a bit after building the motor some work.  10:1 pistons, bored .010, head work / larger valves, heads shaved .040 and a Crane H-290 with a .581 lift.

I can still kick start it, but best to try after a full meal....     :hyst:  CCP is close to 235 each cylinder.

As for the vibes, mine is not bad, have run several 750 + miles days, and lots of 400 - 500 mile days too.  I do not find it a problem, but I have a 1991 bagger with an S&S 111 CU IN motor, and it is much smoother.

IIRC the factory gearing was 3.418:1 and the national speed limit was 55 MPH.   The superglide is a chain final drive, and I went from a 51 tooth dished rear sprocket to a 49 tooth flat sprocket when I changed to 80 spoke wheels.  With the 3.418 gearing 60 MPH was 3,000 RPM on the tach.  Changed to the 49 tooth and now closer to 3.2284 and 67 is now close to 3,000.

I always liked the FXWG but could not find one available when I was in the market in 1991.

Buy it, ride it, enjoy it.

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 08:41:20 PM »
"Buy it, ride it, enjoy it."
Best advice right there.
If you find you can't make it work for you, sell it.
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2017, 10:04:52 PM »
Also had an 85 FXEF. Motor was done up nicely, flywheels balanced and with the cheap stock plastic grips I'd get no buzzing and the thing could eat up hiway miles in perfect comfort. Kept the stock 3.42 gearing because it suited my riding.
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2017, 07:36:45 AM »
Thanks you everyone for answering my questions.  Only one more item that still leaves me wondering.  It's about the kickstart.  Always wanted a Harley with a kicker.  Since this bike is stock (no high compression and stock electronic ignition)  hope it will start with the kicker pretty good. 
Was always told points are the way to go with a kicker but Harley built a bike in 1985 with a kicker and electronic ignition.  How did the combination work???

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2017, 08:06:58 AM »
I would think that combo would be excellant.
Had many older HD's in my time with kickers & a side note is that you will keep a kicker in very good tune. :emoGroan:

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2017, 02:28:01 PM »
Thanks you everyone for answering my questions.  Only one more item that still leaves me wondering.  It's about the kickstart.  Always wanted a Harley with a kicker.  Since this bike is stock (no high compression and stock electronic ignition)  hope it will start with the kicker pretty good. 
Was always told points are the way to go with a kicker but Harley built a bike in 1985 with a kicker and electronic ignition.  How did the combination work???
my 1980 shovel came with elec ign and kicker.good air fuel mixture is the key and a couple of kick thrus with the ign off to (prime) the one kick with the ign on.then off you go. but im lazy and just press the button with choke on (no throttle) and starts straight away.but as i said its a shovel

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2017, 02:34:40 PM »
i didnt know a evo came with a kicker

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 04:25:45 PM »
Four speed Evo's have a kicker on them.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2017, 04:33:19 PM »
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2017, 06:13:27 PM »
Here is a shot of my "not so stock anymore" 1985 FXEF SuperGlide.

Mark

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Re: 1985 FXWG
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2017, 10:01:20 AM »
Again thanks to all who joined in on my post.
well yesterday finally got to go look at this bike in person.  Did not hear it run cause it was -20 degrees in the guys garage.  looks pretty good.  all stock except for the following. 
Mirrors have been changed to the newer round style
handgrips have been changed to soft ones
Front and rear fenders repainted so now more gold stripe on them.
Speedo craped out so new HD speedo.  He still has the original one to show all the miles.  Total of 45000 Km or close to 30000 Miles.
Mufflers have bee changed to Screeming eagle ones but original included in the deal.
Has a few rock chips on gas tank.
Asking $8300.00 Canadian.
I now have a 1996 Dyna Low rider that I ride about 5000 miles a year and is is real good shape.
If I buy the FXWG i'd sell my Low rider.
What would you guys do?
Keep the low rider or buy the FXWG?????

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2017, 10:07:46 AM »
Honestly? If you like to ride a lot, keep the Evo. If you ride only a little, and like the Shovel better, buy it. The Evo has way better brakes, handling, reliability, is smoother to ride, just the facts.
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2017, 10:11:57 AM »
Hello OHIO HD
The 1985 FXWG is a Evo engine 4 speed bike built that way.  No modifications.

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2017, 10:17:02 AM »
Yes, and I knew it was,    :bf:   I posted one above....     :embarrassed:


Was thinking about the 1980 FXWG that I had I guess.

Still, in the end, the 1996 will ride and handle better. It's just a matter of what you want. The four speed bike is geared lower overall, so they wind out on the open road if you travel. The five speed transmission is a lot more durable than the four speed as well.

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2017, 11:10:14 AM »
Having two bikes is really handy, just saying...
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2017, 11:38:42 AM »
Thanks you everyone for answering my questions.  Only one more item that still leaves me wondering.  It's about the kickstart.  Always wanted a Harley with a kicker.  Since this bike is stock (no high compression and stock electronic ignition)  hope it will start with the kicker pretty good. 
Was always told points are the way to go with a kicker but Harley built a bike in 1985 with a kicker and electronic ignition.  How did the combination work???
I'll weigh in on stock H-D electronic ign and kick start.  Everything I've read is that the stock ignition looks for 3 revolutions before it starts sparking to lighten the load on the electric starter.  My '84 FXE still had the stock electronic ignition when I got it and getting it to start when kicking was hit or miss and it didn't make any sense.  Doing the exact same procedure would get a start on one kick other times nothing. 
I prefer kick starting and went to a points ignition, now she's a 1-2 kick starter.
Good Luck with your decision!
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'84 FXE, '02 883R

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2017, 12:40:35 PM »
Here is a shot of my "not so stock anymore" 1985 FXEF SuperGlide.

Mark

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just being picky but isnt that an oil leak i can see

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2017, 12:43:30 PM »
Thanks you everyone for answering my questions.  Only one more item that still leaves me wondering.  It's about the kickstart.  Always wanted a Harley with a kicker.  Since this bike is stock (no high compression and stock electronic ignition)  hope it will start with the kicker pretty good. 
Was always told points are the way to go with a kicker but Harley built a bike in 1985 with a kicker and electronic ignition.  How did the combination work???
I'll weigh in on stock H-D electronic ign and kick start.  Everything I've read is that the stock ignition looks for 3 revolutions before it starts sparking to lighten the load on the electric starter.  My '84 FXE still had the stock electronic ignition when I got it and getting it to start when kicking was hit or miss and it didn't make any sense.  Doing the exact same procedure would get a start on one kick other times nothing. 
I prefer kick starting an went to a points ignition, know she's a 1-2 kick starter.
Good Luck with your decision!

My '80 FXEF started fine with the OEM electrics. Well, unless it was about half warm, then it was a little cranky. I was running a Super B though....
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2017, 02:40:01 PM »
Hello everyone.
Well after talking to my insurance guys i won't be buying this very nice 1985 FXWG.  Insurance for a bike over 30 years old is quite high where i live here in Alberta, Canada.
So on to plan B.
Going to look at a 1998 FXDWG this Sat morning.  Only has 21500 Kms. (13500 miles ).  A few modification but engine has not been tampered with.  Has mini ape bars.
Has what owner says is FIRE WIRE ignition and a Thunder header.  Looks good in pictures.
Asking 8000.00 Canadian.  That's about the going price out here.
Have a 1996 FXDLR that I could probably get 7000.00 I like the looks of the Wide Glide but wondering if it will ride as nice as well as my Low Rider.
What do you guys like better. 
Also tell me about this Fire Wire Ignition if you know anything about it.

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2017, 03:19:24 PM »
You need a different insurance company.
 I use one of the regular main ones (which I hate) but there is no difference in cost
Between a 2013 F6B and my very old 1994 RK.
Agreed value that is.
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2017, 07:01:45 PM »
 :agree:

I can't speak to how things work in them northern states ( :SM: ), but here in the southern ones insurance for old bikes is not expensive at all. If you are looking for full coverage, need to check out the niche companies like AMIG, who will cover by declared value.

Like Smokey Robinson said: Ya better shop around!

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2017, 04:39:24 AM »
JW is right, I have my 92 FXRP valued @ $10 grand, full coverage is $105 a year.
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2017, 04:56:53 AM »
I would think the difference in handling will be felt mostly in the front end, which, because of the rake, length, and width, will feel a little heavier, a little slower, and feel like it "flops" at low speeds.
Also, with the forward controls, your seating position changes, putting the impacts more to your spine, rather than to your butt, per se. Your legs can't absorb hits like they can with mid controls.
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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2017, 08:05:20 AM »
Bingo on that, there Hoss. Not a big fan of forwards, myself. Mainly because the roads in this fricken state are totally shot, and throw in a really poor suspension (ala Harley Davidson), you get to experience every little bump, jolt, and the occasional tossed out of the seat. Just about all of my bikes have floor boards, which aren't nearly as good as mid controls for using your legs to help with the 'suspension', but at least you can pick your ass up out of the seat. Pretty difficult with forward controls. Especially with forwards AND apes!

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2017, 01:29:30 PM »
I would think the difference in handling will be felt mostly in the front end, which, because of the rake, length, and width, will feel a little heavier, a little slower, and feel like it "flops" at low speeds.
Also, with the forward controls, your seating position changes, putting the impacts more to your spine, rather than to your butt, per se. Your legs can't absorb hits like they can with mid controls.
i hate forward controls

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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2017, 07:10:22 PM »
In Alberta....my bikes all have Public Liability coverage @ $130 each per year. That is inexpensive compared to the Provinces I know of.
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Re: 1985 FXWG
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2017, 09:12:48 AM »
Yes to a different insurance company. My fully insured 85 in Alberta was a reasonable cost.
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