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S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« on: December 11, 2017, 02:40:22 PM »
I'm going from S&S 113" with  130hp and 124tq  to 124" build in my 12SE SG.  I'm kicking around the  idea for a couple thousand more of  dropping in a 143"  .  Been told the 143" wouldn't be practical ?  It's  too radical ?  In the end probably go with 124" unless someone can convince me otherwise? Thanks in advance.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 02:51:22 PM »
 my vote is get the 143...and be done with it.
If your wanting more power...the 143 will deliver.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 03:06:18 PM »
It is powerful.
From S&S
This is an ultra performance/race engine. Longevity, engine noise, vibration and throttle sensitivity have all been compromised to reach this level of performance while fitting in a stock chassis and as such is not suitable for every situation. It is the purchaser's responsibility to consider the suitability for their application. Engine noise and damage from abuse is not covered under warranty. 

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 03:47:59 PM »
   S&S is smart...and they are covering their butt...just incase someone goes out and hurts themselves with one of these monster 143 engines. They are not for the faint of heart. I personally rode along side a bike with a 143 in it the last couple of summers. They are a monster.
  I can honestly say from what I have witnessed first hand is the 143 had no more engine noise than what I've heard out of some stock Harley's. The engine itself was surprisingly pretty quiet. A lot less engine noise than what I expected.
  I think the 635HO cams is what gives the 143 it's twitchy edginess. I personally would use a different cam in it if I owned one.
I've heard that there might be a 143 "race version" coming out in the future.
 
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 04:12:25 PM »
I rode one a few weeks ago,  there's alot there.  It is twitchy.  124 alot more tour friendly.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 04:30:56 PM »
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   S&S is smart...and they are covering their butt...just incase someone goes out and hurts themselves with one of these monster 143 engines. They are not for the faint of heart. I personally rode along side a bike with a 143 in it the last couple of summers. They are a monster.
  I can honestly say from what I have witnessed first hand is the 143 had no more engine noise than what I've heard out of some stock Harley's. The engine itself was surprisingly pretty quiet. A lot less engine noise than what I expected.
  I think the 635HO cams is what gives the 143 it's twitchy edginess. I personally would use a different cam in it if I owned one.
I've heard that there might be a 143 "race version" coming out in the future.
 
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 04:39:40 PM »
I'm going from S&S 113" with  130hp and 124tq  to 124" build in my 12SE SG.  I'm kicking around the  idea for a couple thousand more of  dropping in a 143"  .  Been told the 143" wouldn't be practical ?  It's  too radical ?  In the end probably go with 124" unless someone can convince me otherwise? Thanks in advance.

Where ya located?  I could make you a deal on a brand new 124 so I can get the 143...LoL

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 05:11:51 PM »
Ad 40 to the Hp/Tq of your 113  numbers thats what you get with the T143 engine out of the box, skip the 124 go big..
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 06:34:31 PM »

Ad 40 to the Hp/Tq of your 113 numbers thats what you get with the T143 out of the box, it would cost thousands of dollars to get a 124 anywere near the numbers the T143 begins at..
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 06:47:31 PM »
The 143 in the stock condition or mine makes 165 hp and does not seem to use or damn little any oil , does not leak a drop , has not given a bit of trouble as far as mechanical . I driven it at 3500 plus two up loaded,  at way over high way speed for a long ways. Just like to let her rip . I had the front where I don't think it was doing a damn thing two up and shifting it to the next gear . Of course Randy did all of the working putting it in and making it work . I don't baby it , sure I let it warm up but I bought it to have fun lol . and I think the 143 has a lot of potential . I think Ray has that pegged . If you all ready have a good 113 I would just consider a turbo lol

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2017, 08:17:37 PM »
I would love to have a de-tuned 143.  Big, dumb and reliable.  Not sure if S&S will do a custom order 143" with a warranty?  Not sure if the 143 comes with a warranty anyway.....?  How much fun would a relaxed 155-160 HP be?!

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 05:54:53 AM »
I would love to have a de-tuned 143.  Big, dumb and reliable.  Not sure if S&S will do a custom order 143" with a warranty?  Not sure if the 143 comes with a warranty anyway.....?  How much fun would a relaxed 155-160 HP be?!

My thoughts exactly. I'm fresh off of a 117" build and will be good for a long time. But I've always been intrigued by the idea of a 143" set up for dependable touring. The statement from S&S in the motor description does make me timid, but if it's just a matter of a cam change and a few other details, 160HP at reasonable compression would be awesome.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2017, 06:11:07 AM »
They don't have the oil holes  that is an easy fix but there goes the warranty. Easy to change cams and smooth it out, same deal but the cams must be S&S ez start and compatible with their oil pump. Easy to get rid of beehives if equipped .....
S&S no longer will customize motors. They closed their shop that did that work.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2017, 06:26:25 AM »
Re doing a 143 now to make it more user friendly and it will make as much " = more) than with the Ho cam .  Taking care of the oiling issue as well when we swap the cams .
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2017, 06:31:56 AM »
I would love to have a de-tuned 143.  Big, dumb and reliable.  Not sure if S&S will do a custom order 143" with a warranty?  Not sure if the 143 comes with a warranty anyway.....?  How much fun would a relaxed 155-160 HP be?!
The cam choice must be ez start plus work with the S&S proprietary oil pump.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2017, 06:41:22 AM »
 Toss the S&S unit and use a SS 3 stage which is better and their plate . That is what I am doing . as well you can run any cam cover you want them . and have extra room the S&S billet cover sticks out a mile in all the wrong places  HA HA .. Six one half a dozen other .
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2017, 09:27:47 AM »
So you start with a 9k + motor then fix it.
Ok I can do that too.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2017, 09:31:11 AM »
Well Don no one ever said it would be easy HA HA .

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2017, 09:32:56 AM »
So you start with a 9k + motor then fix it.
Ok I can do that too.

You customize it! To fix it implies its broken, its not broke someone just wants a different configuration.  Its a REAL GOOD base for one hell of a engine if you want it different. Them guys in TEXAS got lotsa money to play with.   Bob

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2017, 10:33:32 AM »
Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2017, 11:07:49 AM »
It seems that 635 cam is a bit of an odd ball. Looks to make power on the drum. But, people donít seem to care for the grind in the real world.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2017, 11:21:09 AM »
What is the intended use of the bike?
It's not as simple as just throwing a new engine in and calling it good.
Clutch, pipe, TB, injectors, and a tune need to be factored into the mix.
Maybe a chain conversion also.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2017, 03:08:27 PM »
Big money, and don't think for a moment you're finished !
Toss the cam plate/oil pump, reed style breather, and cam cover.  Install Pac valve springs instead of the beehives, check the cylinder bores. Remove exhaust restrictors from the heads, and install an exhaust system made for the big motor. On & on, never ends. :banghead:
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2017, 03:29:14 PM »
Well Don no one ever said it would be easy HA HA .
  Just because the engine cost xxx does not mean it the best by any means . I think and only think that the 143 can do a lot better . I with Ray on this one and Steve can get it done , we shall see .  For me a good mechanic and quality parts is a lot more important than warranty . I already been down the road on those

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2017, 03:34:59 PM »
Big money, and don't think for a moment you're finished !
Toss the cam plate/oil pump, reed style breather, and cam cover.  Install Pac valve springs instead of the beehives, check the cylinder bores. Remove exhaust restrictors from the heads, and install an exhaust system made for the big motor. On & on, never ends. :banghead:
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  Ok good advice ,  Thanks

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2017, 05:39:12 PM »
143" hands down. have heard nothing but good/great things about this motor.
Crate set up, with mild cam and comp-no oil or valve train issues. None that I have heard from S&S either....unless you are talking about their drag race Dragon, then as in all drag applications, all bets are off.
If any issues, post them.
Of course a custom exhaust is needed, as it will be with a properly done 124" or any large motor. Clutch, and other areas as well need to be addressed.
Unless doing, regular, dedicated, long distance touring (and I would go stock, or maybe a stage 1 or 2 for that and leave it as is), the 143" can be King Kong....or a fun, all around mild assassin.
Change the cam to a EZ .640 and get mild daily driving roll on power. Remember, the original goal of that motor was to get a street bagger in the 9's-
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2017, 06:10:06 PM »
143" hands down. have heard nothing but good/great things about this motor.
Crate set up, with mild cam and comp-no oil or valve train issues. None that I have heard from S&S either....unless you are talking about their drag race Dragon, then as in all drag applications, all bets are off.
If any issues, post them.
Of course a custom exhaust is needed, as it will be with a properly done 124" or any large motor. Clutch, and other areas as well need to be addressed.
Unless doing, regular, dedicated, long distance touring (and I would go stock, or maybe a stage 1 or 2 for that and leave it as is), the 143" can be King Kong....or a fun, all around mild assassin.
Change the cam to a EZ .640 and get mild daily driving roll on power. Remember, the original goal of that motor was to get a street bagger in the 9's-
Well Steve is working on it but suspect that the compression ratio will change a tad. And some exhaust that is made for a 143 stepped and coated , I never had any intention of dumbing down the engine

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2017, 06:31:09 PM »
Re doing a 143 now to make it more user friendly and it will make as much " = more) than with the Ho cam .  Taking care of the oiling issue as well when we swap the cams .
  This is the goal , I really like smooth linear power or one that smooth down low but when your on the throttle different engine lol

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2017, 06:55:07 PM »
Re doing a 143 now to make it more user friendly and it will make as much " = more) than with the Ho cam .  Taking care of the oiling issue as well when we swap the cams .
  This is the goal , I really like smooth linear power or one that smooth down low but when your on the throttle different engine lol[/b][/i]
Yup-
That's how my street 126" is now, but with your additional cubes.....damn-just more, more, more!
I actually have no idea what cam profile would give that type of result at your much bigger cube level...hell, maybe even the old .675 like I use.
Look forward to seeing what Steve comes up with, but I love the EZ start feature to turn over that much real estate...no matter how much heat soak in summer the motor sees-
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2017, 09:04:59 PM »
Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

Can you buy just the 143 cylinders?

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2017, 09:54:53 PM »
Ad 40 to the Hp/Tq of your 113  numbers thats what you get with the T143 engine out of the box, skip the 124 go big..

Now wait just a doggone minute  :doh:...weren't you getting away from your beast and trading for something more tame?   :pop:
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2017, 09:58:37 PM »

Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

I have always been intrigued with this combo - what are the pros and cons to a 131?
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2017, 07:00:37 AM »
Post the sheet . I am sure many others would like to see the curve with a 640 in a 143 .

  it sure would interest me.
I'd like to see what the 640's do in a 143. I'd also love to see what a set of 630i's would do in one too.
Damn...if I was only rich.   :hyst:
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2017, 07:14:27 AM »
Well we are doing the 640 here in house with the 1.7 rocker a bump in comp ratio as well .  Pipe wise i will have 3 to test  The bassani , the D&D mega which will be on the bike when it leaves and a SPF custom built pipe   


dont worry Ray I will post up results  :up:
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2017, 07:17:56 AM »

Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

I have always been intrigued with this combo - what are the pros and cons to a 131?

THE R&R 131 I did a while back made great power and tq super easy to tune ran the 640 and was only pumping like 170 CCP or maybe 180 Been too long now .
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2017, 03:04:51 PM »
Ii have one in my daily rider.  It is a 02 RK.  It's made the trip to Sturgis and back twice.  It is a little twitchy at first because of the big throttle plate.  A little throttle goes a long way off of idle but I got used to is very fast and now it is smooth as silk.  More an issue of retraining the hand not to grab more throttle than you really want.  I don't baby it.  It hits the rev limiter a couple of times a day.  So far it has been reliable and extremely fun.  It is actually quieter than the stock engine was as far as valve train noise.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »
 :agree:

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« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2017, 04:33:44 PM »
:agree:
Ii have one in my daily rider.  It is a 02 RK.  It's made the trip to Sturgis and back twice.  It is a little twitchy at first because of the big throttle plate.  A little throttle goes a long way off of idle but I got used to is very fast and now it is smooth as silk.  More an issue of retraining the hand not to grab more throttle than you really want.  I don't baby it.  It hits the rev limiter a couple of times a day.  So far it has been reliable and extremely fun.  It is actually quieter than the stock engine was as far as valve train noise.
Spoken from a couple guys who actually know-first hand. :up: :up:


Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

I have always been intrigued with this combo - what are the pros and cons to a 131?

THE R&R 131 I did a while back made great power and tq super easy to tune ran the 640 and was only pumping like 170 CCP or maybe 180 Been too long now .
Steve,
I remember that motor, and a super cool owner of that bike. As I remember you pulled some compression out of it for more of a tourer.
Super smooth, big power, and excellent reliablilty.
Look forward to the "tweaked" 143" results....not so much peak power, but low and mid speed manners for all around putting. Very few will ever use 6 grand plus upstairs on a regular street basis for that beast!
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2017, 06:02:02 AM »
:agree:
Ii have one in my daily rider.  It is a 02 RK.  It's made the trip to Sturgis and back twice.  It is a little twitchy at first because of the big throttle plate.  A little throttle goes a long way off of idle but I got used to is very fast and now it is smooth as silk.  More an issue of retraining the hand not to grab more throttle than you really want.  I don't baby it.  It hits the rev limiter a couple of times a day.  So far it has been reliable and extremely fun.  It is actually quieter than the stock engine was as far as valve train noise.
Spoken from a couple guys who actually know-first hand. :up: :up:


Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

I have always been intrigued with this combo - what are the pros and cons to a 131?

THE R&R 131 I did a while back made great power and tq super easy to tune ran the 640 and was only pumping like 170 CCP or maybe 180 Been too long now .
Steve,
I remember that motor, and a super cool owner of that bike. As I remember you pulled some compression out of it for more of a tourer.
Super smooth, big power, and excellent reliablilty.
Look forward to the "tweaked" 143" results....not so much peak power, but low and mid speed manners for all around putting. Very few will ever use 6 grand plus upstairs on a regular street basis for that beast! You are correct I will want to install a meth kit as its not his primary touring bike and lean into the comp ratio  no reason not to it will drive the tq up and make more on the big end as well WIN WIN   
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2017, 04:07:34 PM »
Well I don't drag race any more that was a long time ago lol . But I damn sure want my bikes to run. Sure the lc 124 is a great engine but not for me . I just like the rush I get from a engine that pulls hard to the rev limiter , There is a reason why I took my bikes to Steve , I came out of Bowie last week end with the 124 that Steve rebuilt and I gave it a tad to much throttle two up as usual and it broke loose  in second . Just right lol the way I like a engine to run not lay over
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2017, 10:23:32 AM »
  I know this not about what I want , I just happen to own both a 124 and 143 . Truth is if you build a 124 that runs like Rays, Rons and several others that are damn close to the 143 well not sure you gain any thing here. I don't find any thing wrong with SS quality , first rate . Sure there are things that I prefer so I like a purpose built engine, just me . just like the lc 124 and the hc 124 , the 143 I think can be improved on . All these things center around what your goals are and the type of bike you ride . Like a very smart guy told me once you need to be honest with your self and where you ride most of the time. I just want the damn thing to run what is it going to take lol . My brother use to blow by me on his bike and I had a 96 inch with fish tail exhaust . I got damn tired of that lol . I was ok in spending a couple of dollars to fix that

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2017, 10:34:45 AM »
My .02

Get the 143, if it is too twitchy swap to a smaller cam.

If it was me and I went with the 124 I'd always be thinking, "what if"
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2017, 10:41:37 AM »
Oh man, just build the motor from pieces and better yet make it a square 131 if going for all the good stuff from S&S.

Can you buy just the 143 cylinders?
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2017, 11:40:07 AM »
S&S offers their case bored for 4.375  in. dia. cylinders, I sure don't see any in the catalog.
Maybe thats a CTO?

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2017, 12:26:40 PM »
 I tried for over a year to get S&S cylinders for a set of S&S 4 3/8" bore cases.
I was wanting to build a 4 3/8" bore X 4 3/8" stroke engine. This was just after the release of the 143...and I couldn't get any where with them. For what ever reason...I got no where. I kept hearing the same thing over and over again...we'll have to get back to you on that. I finally gave up on the idea.
 
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2017, 12:41:02 PM »
  My brother use to blow by me on his bike and I had a 96 inch with fish tail exhaust . I got damn tired of that lol . I was ok in spending a couple of dollars to fix that

And there it is. The reason for all engine mods.
I may not be able to beat everyone, but I must be able to beat my friends.
That little phrase has cost me more than a few dollars.

A friend of mine was rebuilding his old bike from the ground up, and asked me how he should do the rear end and taillights. I mentioned a few ways he could go, and he said to pick something I liked, because I would be looking at it all the time. Now, I did start to laugh. But it also cost me a complete big bore kit, including heads and pipes. Worth every penny.
I would have stroked the damn thing if that's what it took.

I say seriously consider the 143.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2017, 12:55:25 PM »
they're not cheap, in excess of $1,100 a set


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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2017, 01:04:45 PM »
The case bore is then about 4.7"
Hate to be a downer but when you go in and try and order all the 143 stuff most of the hard parts, the bigger items are back ordered.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2017, 01:16:27 PM »
The case bore is then about 4.7"
Hate to be a downer but when you go in and try and order all the 143 stuff most of the hard parts, the bigger items are back ordered.

Arenít you involved with a 131Ē square engine? How did it turn out?
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2017, 01:44:50 PM »
I don't think the guy ever installed it.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2017, 01:50:31 PM »
 wasn't that Andy that you did the 131 for?
Last time he contacted me I think he said he was moving to Europe.
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« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2017, 03:02:54 PM »
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2017, 03:41:27 PM »
  My brother use to blow by me on his bike and I had a 96 inch with fish tail exhaust . I got damn tired of that lol . I was ok in spending a couple of dollars to fix that

And there it is. The reason for all engine mods.
I may not be able to beat everyone, but I must be able to beat my friends.
That little phrase has cost me more than a few dollars.

A friend of mine was rebuilding his old bike from the ground up, and asked me how he should do the rear end and taillights. I mentioned a few ways he could go, and he said to pick something I liked, because I would be looking at it all the time. Now, I did start to laugh. But it also cost me a complete big bore kit, including heads and pipes. Worth every penny.
I would have stroked the damn thing if that's what it took.

I say seriously consider the 143.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2017, 05:17:25 PM »
they're not cheap, in excess of $1,100 a set


Not cheap? Like a set of 100 clam take off cylinders from eBay? A pinto vs a Corvette?
Like 95% of the posters here, you aren't playing with 160 plus, so not sure if you understand what is expensive or isn't. To a guy working at Micky D's and wants to propose to his girlfriend, a 2,000 engagement ring is a fortune-to someone else, 2 grand is what he plays with over the weekend....
If you are playing in the big boy HP sandbox, they are worth every penny, and then some-
Try pricing out a 13 grand R&R billet motor that puts out 130 HP? Is it worth it?
Depends who you ask....

The case bore is then about 4.7"
Hate to be a downer but when you go in and try and order all the 143 stuff most of the hard parts, the bigger items are back ordered.
Wrong-
Not if you know who to ask....and how to get what you want. Sure it isn't Amazon with overnight shipping, but smart builders order what they need, ahead of time, and work on other parts of the motors so everything comes together at the same time. Think S&S is difficult? Try dealing with Jesel-
Besides, didn't you just post that S&S bottom ends go out of round and oblong? Why even use such a product as S&S filled with such failure (you never answered if it is foundry/cast issue, or an engineering/design issue), and build for your customers?

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Their rods do not break they pinch, become oval, and the rod bearings fail then especially front. They used to have the race shop, that is now gone. They would put Carrillo rods in for a price."

Look,
Special order applications are your friend....

https://www.sscycle.com/docs/default-source/special-order-forms/31-1010-crankcase-ps.pdf?sfvrsn=2

This goes for heads, cams, and every other part you need. Of course, like in life, the top builders, and who you know, get to the front of the line. S&S will help you build whatever you need, as long as they can manufacturer it. Joe Blow or Billy's Build shop from Nowhere ain't getting to the front of the line as top builders and race teams.

I learned this the hard way and I get it. When starting out, my first order with Baisley as an unknown rook, took over six months.....
Future orders much, much quicker as things changed over time-

EX:
Was at Galipn Ford today for one of my vehicles being serviced. Was talking to one of the service advisors and noticed a 2007 GT40 parked next to the entrance by the service exit. I said " damn, nice car....have you seen any of the new 2017/18 GT40's?"
He said "yeah, Tim Allen was in this week for an oil change with his new one-thousand bucks for the oil change."
I said, "I thought they weren't for sale?"
Service guys smiles and said, "sure they are, for the right people."
Top builders can still put together a bad ass build, they just need to know how to do it.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2017, 09:01:08 AM »
They were for sale and promptly sold out. However, you couldn't just go out and buy one, you had to "apply" to buy one and Ford had to approve your purchase. You also had to sign a contract stating that you won't sell it for two years, to prevent the typical a**holes that just buy them to flip and make money. Some WWF wrestler is being sued by Ford now for selling his before the two year window.

On a side note, maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you saying that S&S only sells certain parts to certain builders?

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2017, 09:19:41 AM »
On a side note, maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you saying that S&S only sells certain parts to certain builders?

I take it has he is saying some builders get front of the line service with S&S. They have spent the time and money to build a relationship over the years with S&S and get front of the line service. No different than any high end car dealership they cater to those they know spend the cash. They don't chase tire kickers.    Bob

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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2017, 01:23:04 PM »
On a side note, maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you saying that S&S only sells certain parts to certain builders?

I take it has he is saying some builders get front of the line service with S&S. They have spent the time and money to build a relationship over the years with S&S and get front of the line service. No different than any high end car dealership they cater to those they know spend the cash. They don't chase tire kickers.    Bob

Makes sense.

Wonder why they wouldn't respond to Ray with the build he was talking about, clearly he's the type of guy willing to pay for what he wants. Wonder if they would have helped him if he were asking via a high volume S&S dealer. If so, they lost a sale for no other reason than hubris.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2017, 01:43:19 PM »
This tiered service spoken about has never been my experience with S&S.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2017, 02:09:46 PM »
  I think me wanting to build a 4 3/8" square motor was just bad timing on my part.
The 143 had just been released, and of course I'm no shop owner with a large volume of parts being purchased from S&S, nor do I have a famous name. I was just a guy wanting to buy the a set of cases, flywheels, and cylinders from S&S so I could begin piecing my project together. I kind of understood why they didn't have time to mess with me. It was probably all hands on deck building the new addition of the 143's to their line up.
  I might try again someday to see if I can get what I need to build my dream square motor.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2017, 02:30:54 PM »
This tiered service spoken about has never been my experience with S&S.

Glad to hear it. Kind of a lousy way to do business IME.

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2017, 02:48:36 PM »
  I think me wanting to build a 4 3/8" square motor was just bad timing on my part.
The 143 had just been released, and of course I'm no shop owner with a large volume of parts being purchased from S&S, nor do I have a famous name. I was just a guy wanting to buy the a set of cases, flywheels, and cylinders from S&S so I could begin piecing my project together. I kind of understood why they didn't have time to mess with me. It was probably all hands on deck building the new addition of the 143's to their line up.
  I might try again someday to see if I can get what I need to build my dream square motor.
  Well if you do I was thinking a set of heads that had bigger titanium intake valves , proper springs ,port work ect might be the ticket lol . Just an idea I have

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2017, 02:49:38 PM »
Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

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« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2017, 04:48:23 PM »
Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2017, 05:07:06 PM »
Looks pretty rideable to me.  :nix:



Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

 A dyno bike Rick.     :SM:

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2017, 05:10:00 PM »
that has trouble written all over it, just like a few girls I knew when I was younger   :scoot:

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2017, 05:33:24 PM »
that has trouble written all over it, just like a few girls I knew when I was younger   :scoot:
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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2017, 08:58:30 PM »
that has trouble written all over it, just like a few girls I knew when I was younger   :scoot:
Yea that the damn truth .

And mom was not happy that you were riding either one of them.
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« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2017, 04:30:09 AM »
that has trouble written all over it, just like a few girls I knew when I was younger   :scoot:
Yea that the damn truth .

And mom was not happy that you were riding either one of them.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2017, 07:51:28 AM »
Looks pretty rideable to me.  :nix:



Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

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« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2017, 11:37:20 AM »
I was thinking the same thing about the exhaust pipe.

I bet its LOUD too!
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2017, 06:13:44 PM »
Looks pretty rideable to me.  :nix:



Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

 A dyno bike Rick.     :SM:
Bullshit-
Not a Dyno bike.....owner rides it regularly. Geez, love guys who bag on stuff they don't know anything about, or since they can never own it....they bag on it for whatever reason.
Look carefully at the bike-carefully....
Slightly longer wheelbase, but not too long. Low, but not too low, and guess what? It's NOT a bagger!!! It's NOT build to go cross country, but it does run ON PUMP GAS, and as far as the pipe, sure it's loud...who the hell doesn't think 300 HP is loud, and as far as the heat shields, I'm sure the shop can/has modified the pipe as the owner has put some miles on it. Many of these photo shoots are done as soon as it rolls off the lift. No big deal.
Bike is stock EZ start compression that starts all day in the AZ heat, it's got a top of the line Ohlins front end (owner could easily raise it an inch or two and make it a canyon carver), BST's, top of the line brakes, and the best of everything. Read the article....he wanted an all around bike he could grudge race with his buddies-he wasn't looking for a Ducati or Gixer to rip the canyons all day on a daily basis...WTF.
 Looks to me like it's got a better lean angle than my street bike, and has better everything, everywhere,  than I've got, for sure. I think Trask nailed it-period.
Some people simply don't understand a bike should be built to the owners GOALS, not the critics, for what the OWNER wants, what they are looking for, how they ride, and their expectations. This bike, for this owner, nailed it.

As far as a Dyno bike, it's not a "claimed" 300, but IMO is no doubt a "real" 300.
I saw a Trask turbo 113" (or less) more than a decade ago, pull over 270-I have also been on that shops Dyno, and both the Dyno and shop are top of the line IMO....no games there-just huge, huge HP, and quality builds coming out of there.

I guess if you aren't a site sponsor here, your stuff must be bogus, substandard,
Un-rideable, and a Dyno queen.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2017, 03:17:10 AM »
Looks pretty rideable to me.  :nix:



Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

 A dyno bike Rick.     :SM:
Bullshit-
Not a Dyno bike.....owner rides it regularly. Geez, love guys who bag on stuff they don't know anything about, or since they can never own it....they bag on it for whatever reason.
Look carefully at the bike-carefully....
Slightly longer wheelbase, but not too long. Low, but not too low, and guess what? It's NOT a bagger!!! It's NOT build to go cross country, but it does run ON PUMP GAS, and as far as the pipe, sure it's loud...who the hell doesn't think 300 HP is loud, and as far as the heat shields, I'm sure the shop can/has modified the pipe as the owner has put some miles on it. Many of these photo shoots are done as soon as it rolls off the lift. No big deal.
Bike is stock EZ start compression that starts all day in the AZ heat, it's got a top of the line Ohlins front end (owner could easily raise it an inch or two and make it a canyon carver), BST's, top of the line brakes, and the best of everything. Read the article....he wanted an all around bike he could grudge race with his buddies-he wasn't looking for a Ducati or Gixer to rip the canyons all day on a daily basis...WTF.
 Looks to me like it's got a better lean angle than my street bike, and has better everything, everywhere,  than I've got, for sure. I think Trask nailed it-period.
Some people simply don't understand a bike should be built to the owners GOALS, not the critics, for what the OWNER wants, what they are looking for, how they ride, and their expectations. This bike, for this owner, nailed it.

As far as a Dyno bike, it's not a "claimed" 300, but IMO is no doubt a "real" 300.
I saw a Trask turbo 113" (or less) more than a decade ago, pull over 270-I have also been on that shops Dyno, and both the Dyno and shop are top of the line IMO....no games there-just huge, huge HP, and quality builds coming out of there.

I guess if you aren't a site sponsor here, your stuff must be bogus, substandard,
Un-rideable, and a Dyno queen.
Haters gonna hate....

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2017, 06:23:42 AM »
Looks pretty rideable to me.  :nix:



Was in bookstore yesterday and a Trask build FXR with 143 and their assault turbo kit was on the cover,  claimed 300hp. 

But then it was on the ground with a lowered Ohlins inverted fork (marginal travel) and custom JRI shocks and they were bragging about handling, lean angle and cornering prowess.   :doh:

 A dyno bike Rick.     :SM:
Bullshit-
Not a Dyno bike.....owner rides it regularly. Geez, love guys who bag on stuff they don't know anything about, or since they can never own it....they bag on it for whatever reason.
Look carefully at the bike-carefully....
Slightly longer wheelbase, but not too long. Low, but not too low, and guess what? It's NOT a bagger!!! It's NOT build to go cross country, but it does run ON PUMP GAS, and as far as the pipe, sure it's loud...who the hell doesn't think 300 HP is loud, and as far as the heat shields, I'm sure the shop can/has modified the pipe as the owner has put some miles on it. Many of these photo shoots are done as soon as it rolls off the lift. No big deal.
Bike is stock EZ start compression that starts all day in the AZ heat, it's got a top of the line Ohlins front end (owner could easily raise it an inch or two and make it a canyon carver), BST's, top of the line brakes, and the best of everything. Read the article....he wanted an all around bike he could grudge race with his buddies-he wasn't looking for a Ducati or Gixer to rip the canyons all day on a daily basis...WTF.
 Looks to me like it's got a better lean angle than my street bike, and has better everything, everywhere,  than I've got, for sure. I think Trask nailed it-period.
Some people simply don't understand a bike should be built to the owners GOALS, not the critics, for what the OWNER wants, what they are looking for, how they ride, and their expectations. This bike, for this owner, nailed it.

As far as a Dyno bike, it's not a "claimed" 300, but IMO is no doubt a "real" 300.
I saw a Trask turbo 113" (or less) more than a decade ago, pull over 270-I have also been on that shops Dyno, and both the Dyno and shop are top of the line IMO....no games there-just huge, huge HP, and quality builds coming out of there.

I guess if you aren't a site sponsor here, your stuff must be bogus, substandard,
Un-rideable, and a Dyno queen.
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Paul yo and I know each other . I like the bike I used to live in AZ I live in TX now so heat is a factor . I tune for Confederate , as so I get to throw my leg over some really over the top built bikes and take it for a  ride,   Some are a 175 MPH Harley that any one with the cash can own . Its very cool . Other than where the EX is located I have burned myself a few times now on these bikes.. As I said I like it

Its built with top notch parts .  Speedsters, Combat bombers, Salt flats edition with twin T/B s  Yea that was fun to tune .. HA HA   My point it that I know that many of these are slotted for Photo shoots . I deal with it on a pretty regular basis really .. 


I like it all other than where the EX is at . But having not built it I have zero say it .. Not much room there but having seen how some of the others do it .. I think it could have been done differently . It would have been much harder but a tail exit on that would have been super cool in my head. And the theme of it would have worked .. again I think so .


The big wheel baggers I deal with .. well I can say they are not my thing really but I have to ride and build ( engines)  and tune a bunch of them  every year..  Long tail draggers that you have to air up to get out of places . Some so larger that you need boards to get them on off trailers and into the booth..  These guys do ride them and I am stoked when that bike makes the cover ..

But every one gets an opinion on this..  had a guy bagging on me over the cost of a bike .. I was only showing what the new CVO made for power in a step by step process..   What does cost have to do with power levels .. Well we all know the answer to that ..  :wink:


building for what the owner wants yes done that several times and we landed a few in magazines as well .. I get it I really do some times it not what we want but what we are paid to do ..  In this case he got just under a 50% increase in power over stock  :up: :up: 


having ridden some 400 HP imports mid 200 HD bikes I would love the chance to take that bike for a spin and feel the raw power..  The last one with the aerocharger making   and 223 at 3600  . Not many will ever understand that .. Just the way it is .   
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2017, 12:05:13 PM »
Yes Steve I appreciate the tuning and building for the Texas heat although I don't like to ride about mid 90s .  I think the meth injection will help a lot especially when it really hot . If I just had one bike i have to say that aero bike might be it lol , maybe limit the boost to 8 or 9 lb or at least the rate of rise lol if possible .  I like the charger back behind and it seems look pretty clean look

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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #74 on: December 24, 2017, 08:31:34 PM »
My only issue with that bike is the pipe. I'd move it to where it wouldn't burn my leg and pound my ear drums.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #75 on: December 26, 2017, 09:42:38 AM »
The turbo tames the ex note a fair amount .
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2017, 09:49:32 AM »
The turbo tames the ex note a fair amount .

One of the more attractive side affects. Stealth mode requires quiet.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #77 on: December 26, 2017, 01:43:38 PM »
Yes, but then the pop-off valve gives you away!
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« Reply #78 on: December 26, 2017, 02:01:53 PM »
Yes, but then the pop-off valve gives you away!

Not from two counties away though. I hate turbos, but youíre stupid if you donít have one.

200+ wheel HP would be easy, no special valve train or high compression, and you could use relatively tiny camshafts. No need for compression releases or ez start cams or even big starters. Reason this hasnít become the norm is it makes the big ugly or anleg burned like that trask deal.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #79 on: December 26, 2017, 05:19:55 PM »
Yes, but then the pop-off valve gives you away!

Not from two counties away though. I hate turbos, but youíre stupid if you donít have one.

200+ wheel HP would be easy, no special valve train or high compression, and you could use relatively tiny camshafts. No need for compression releases or ez start cams or even big starters. Reason this hasnít become the norm is it makes the big ugly or anleg burned like that trask deal.

You forgot to mention jail time every other ride!
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #80 on: December 26, 2017, 05:27:40 PM »
  Hoss...that's the one that would get me.  :up:  :hyst:
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #81 on: December 26, 2017, 05:31:26 PM »
  Hoss...that's the one that would get me.  :up:  :hyst:

You're already pushing it with what you have now!
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« Reply #82 on: December 26, 2017, 05:50:22 PM »
   it's a trouble marker too...but now that I got it tamed down some I can usually slip by the popo without attracting too much attention if I'm behaving.
     It's when he is hiding and I don't see him is when I get in trouble.  :embarrassed:  So far I've been able to get by with just a few stern warnings. I've been told "no more spinning tires", and "no more wheelies" in town. It might cause someone to wreck by scaring them.  :doh:  The last two times I was pulled over for hot rodding the officer walked up and looked at the bike...then they started asking questions about it and the conversation seemed to ease the situation some. 
  I've been lucky so far and they have let me go with just the warnings.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #83 on: December 27, 2017, 06:40:42 AM »
Nice Ray .. In your " old" age you can now get out of tickets .. Heck tell him your retired , just need to get the lawn fertilizer home fast before the grass turns yellow..   :hyst:

Building bird houses yet ?? 
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« Reply #84 on: December 27, 2017, 06:59:03 AM »
  no...not yet Steve :hyst:
The next time I get caught doing something stupid on the bike both officers told me it will cost me a ticket, and maybe even an appearance in mayors court.  :dgust:  I try my best now to pull the reins back on it when I'm in town.
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #85 on: December 27, 2017, 07:29:28 AM »
   it's a trouble marker too...but now that I got it tamed down some I can usually slip by the popo without attracting too much attention if I'm behaving.
     It's when he is hiding and I don't see him is when I get in trouble.  :embarrassed:  So far I've been able to get by with just a few stern warnings. I've been told "no more spinning tires", and "no more wheelies" in town. It might cause someone to wreck by scaring them.  :doh:  The last two times I was pulled over for hot rodding the officer walked up and looked at the bike...then they started asking questions about it and the conversation seemed to ease the situation some. 
  I've been lucky so far and they have let me go with just the warnings.



Wheelies, burnouts and speeding at more than 50 kph (31 mph) over is called Stunt Driving in Ontario. here's a quick Readers Digest version of what happens when you get caught. The officers wear these charges like a badge of honor so there aren't many warnings. Check out the minimum penalties.  :dgust:

http://www.ontariotraffictickets.com/stunt-driving-ticket/stunt-driving-tickets-law-says/
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Re: S&S 143" INSTEAD OF S&S 124'
« Reply #86 on: December 27, 2017, 08:32:15 AM »
  remind me not to ride my bike in Canada.
Those laws are steep.  :dgust:
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« Reply #87 on: December 27, 2017, 08:57:02 AM »
  remind me not to ride my bike in Canada.
Those laws are steep.  :dgust:
Come to Alberta we don't have any of those lefty big brother laws like Ontario and British Columbia.  Bob