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Offline Jonny Cash

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« on: December 02, 2016, 03:44:27 PM »
This showed up in the mail today.  Forgot that I had sent off for it, it had been a couple months. I got my timeslip at a race in NC, only time I have ever run a 1/4 on a bike.  It went 11.12 @ 121, really  thought  was I gonna get the 10 second one too, but a smoked clutch kept me just from it.  My 60' on that pass was only 1.83, I had gotten to where I was pretty much @ 1.70's.  I guess that gives me the long winter here to get ready for next year.

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 04:07:16 PM »
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 05:21:19 PM »
Great job  :up: :up:
The 1/8 is where the magic happens but it sure is fun to run the full 1/4 mile.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 05:25:43 PM »
Awesome Cash Money...Walkin' The Walk, and letting it talk the talk... :up:
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 05:46:18 PM »
Congrats Jonny ! Welcome to the club ! Im hoping we both get our 10 second membership in 2017 !
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2016, 07:46:22 PM »
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2016, 08:48:19 PM »
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2016, 07:12:04 AM »
Good Job Kelly!!

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2016, 08:00:40 AM »
Congrats, Mister. Those aren't easy to come by. I refer to those as my "million dollar shirts" cuz it felt like I spent a fortune getting one.

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2016, 08:31:39 AM »
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2016, 10:05:06 AM »
Thank you everybody!  this was my first year racing a bike.  I had bracket raced cars as a young man but had not been down a track since 2001until last fall on my bike.  I was able to win a couple bracket races this year and one local heads up race, running 1/8 mile is very competitive, you have to be on your game every round.  I learned a tremendous amount this year about riding and chassis set-up, lots of trial and error.  I started out running 7.50 1/8 mile, ended up running a best of 7.04 at the end of the year.  I dropped some weight off the bike, an 04 electraglide. I got a longer swingarm at the very end of the season but did not make it to the track before they closed in my part of the woods, pretty sure that was going to get me in the 6.90's.  I have to thank Jason at C&S Speedshop for the exceptional tune, and Jim @ Megaflo for the outstanding head work, I've got the Hp just need to get better at riding, and drop a FEW pounds.  With a couple engine upgrades I fully expect to make consistent 10 second 1/4 mile passes next year.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2016, 07:55:37 AM »
Great job kelly......between u riding....jason tuning.....my money's on u getting in the 10's.!  NICE JOB!
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2016, 10:26:45 PM »
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2016, 04:43:55 AM »
Great job kelly......between u riding....jason tuning.....my money's on u getting in the 10's.!  NICE JOB!
see ya soon!


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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2016, 07:31:25 AM »
Pretty sweet! ............. I need to send for one some day  :up:

Looks like your pretty close to that 10's one too! great job!

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2016, 08:40:34 AM »
Great job Kelly. :up: :up:
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2016, 03:50:42 PM »
   NICE JOB   !!    Congrats  on a job well done   :up: :up:
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2017, 01:09:54 PM »
Great Job Kelly   

 The season is just around the corner you will be a 10'er in no time  :up:
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2017, 01:18:46 PM »
 :up: :up: Very nice to see you meeting your goals Kelly. We know how much work it is to shave those percentages off of what you thought was your best time yet. It takes stamina and it looks good on you.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2017, 04:46:27 AM »
I haven't got to go to the track much this year, and have fought consistency problems.  Finally made a few yesterday that got me lined out.  Ran a race in Atlanta last month and finally got in the 10's 1/4 mile.  I have sprayed it a few times with a dry kit,  but going lean, so had to go up to 12.0 injectors running on E-85.

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2017, 02:31:50 PM »
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Too many have no idea what it takes to get to the level you have achieved with those three slips.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2017, 06:29:00 AM »
I went to Gateway last night for Black Sunday race test n tune.  Think I'm just about to have it tuned in @ the track. Motor pass, and spraying a 40 shot
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2017, 09:53:16 AM »
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Great job, time for a new Patch
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2017, 03:26:43 PM »
:up: :up:
Great job, time for a new Patch

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 07:02:48 PM »
Looks like you have found the zone Kelly. Great job! That consistency is the key.

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2017, 04:27:59 AM »
Looking great Kelly!! the years in the bracket car are paying dividends. :up:

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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2018, 08:00:24 AM »
Johnny . Being that I may get another crack at my patch . my 60 foot is great but may re think the gear in it .. what ratio are you running ?
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2018, 12:55:39 PM »
Johnny . Being that I may get another crack at my patch . my 60 foot is great but may re think the gear in it .. what ratio are you running ?

3.46 final, its a 5 speed bike.  I run the 2.94 first gear, and have switched to a 2.08 second.  Not sure on the 6 speed bikes how to gear.  What gear do you cross the stripe? 
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2018, 12:58:21 PM »
124 trap speed so was thinking about giving it another go for my 10 second patch .. best EVER 11.005 .  Hurt the clutch on that pass and my day was over .
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2018, 03:33:46 PM »
That mph will get you there.  11.005 is reallllllly close
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2018, 06:10:32 AM »
I know but that was my shining star run HA HA  i told myself I no longer cared the track closed but THEN ..   You know the " THEN" happens and well got some new goodies for the engine and it should make a touch more power .
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2018, 07:45:28 AM »
I know but that was my shining star run HA HA  i told myself I no longer cared the track closed but THEN ..   You know the " THEN" happens and well got some new goodies for the engine and it should make a touch more power .
I made 124 mph after I figured out track tuning.  I use a WEGO III.  I was really surprised how much fuel I added to get the AFR I wanted, and track AFR my best mph was fatter than dyno AFR max power.
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« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2018, 07:46:44 AM »
I know but that was my shining star run HA HA  i told myself I no longer cared the track closed but THEN ..   You know the " THEN" happens and well got some new goodies for the engine and it should make a touch more power .
I made 124 mph after I figured out track tuning.  I use a WEGO III.  I was really surprised how much fuel I added to get the AFR I wanted, and track AFR my best mph was fatter than dyno AFR max power.


innovate LM-2 is great as well .. I found the same thing .. However After looking over the data logs , setting the AFR , then back on the drum I found that inducing a % of load on the WOT pull I could duplicate it .  But each bike is different .. based on the power you make. I am sure someone could come up with a scale . But mine was 11% load   if I recall I would have to look at my notes.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2018, 10:48:48 AM »
I know but that was my shining star run HA HA  i told myself I no longer cared the track closed but THEN ..   You know the " THEN" happens and well got some new goodies for the engine and it should make a touch more power .
I made 124 mph after I figured out track tuning.  I use a WEGO III.  I was really surprised how much fuel I added to get the AFR I wanted, and track AFR my best mph was fatter than dyno AFR max power.


innovate LM-2 is great as well .. I found the same thing .. However After looking over the data logs , setting the AFR , then back on the drum I found that inducing a % of load on the WOT pull I could duplicate it .  But each bike is different .. based on the power you make. I am sure someone could come up with a scale . But mine was 11% load   if I recall I would have to look at my notes.

Steve we found both on the engine dyno and the dyno jet that a combination of  step testing and sweep testing gave the best results for mapping AFR for the track. If you data log at the track you can get a decent acceleration rate for both launch and individual gears and then replicate that with the dyno. This is also a big help in getting the ignition timing correct because as you already know that will change the fuel requirements. Looking forward to seeing your gains at the track with your renewed effort.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2018, 11:07:28 AM »
I know but that was my shining star run HA HA  i told myself I no longer cared the track closed but THEN ..   You know the " THEN" happens and well got some new goodies for the engine and it should make a touch more power .
I made 124 mph after I figured out track tuning.  I use a WEGO III.  I was really surprised how much fuel I added to get the AFR I wanted, and track AFR my best mph was fatter than dyno AFR max power.


innovate LM-2 is great as well .. I found the same thing .. However After looking over the data logs , setting the AFR , then back on the drum I found that inducing a % of load on the WOT pull I could duplicate it .  But each bike is different .. based on the power you make. I am sure someone could come up with a scale . But mine was 11% load   if I recall I would have to look at my notes.

Steve we found both on the engine dyno and the dyno jet that a combination of  step testing and sweep testing gave the best results for mapping AFR for the track. If you data log at the track you can get a decent acceleration rate for both launch and individual gears and then replicate that with the dyno. This is also a big help in getting the ignition timing correct because as you already know that will change the fuel requirements. Looking forward to seeing your gains at the track with your renewed effort.

I really enjoy discussing and learning about tuning for racing. I try to explain to others that tuning isn't just about getting the engine to run right, but to make it work as a whole package with the transmission, suspension (especially in road and off road racing), braking (same), tires, tire pressure, and how the motors needs change as it goes down or around the track. Now throw in some weather, and everything changes again. Keeping good notes is key to success and again, a commitment.
I am in awe of you that race and keep that commitment to getting better every run. And even if it is not better, it is such valuble information to improve upon.
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Re: 11 seconds
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2018, 12:06:50 PM »
I know but that was my shining star run HA HA  i told myself I no longer cared the track closed but THEN ..   You know the " THEN" happens and well got some new goodies for the engine and it should make a touch more power .
I made 124 mph after I figured out track tuning.  I use a WEGO III.  I was really surprised how much fuel I added to get the AFR I wanted, and track AFR my best mph was fatter than dyno AFR max power.


innovate LM-2 is great as well .. I found the same thing .. However After looking over the data logs , setting the AFR , then back on the drum I found that inducing a % of load on the WOT pull I could duplicate it .  But each bike is different .. based on the power you make. I am sure someone could come up with a scale . But mine was 11% load   if I recall I would have to look at my notes.

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« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2018, 12:54:00 PM »
It was a bit of trial and error .. many factors .... But the 12.8 AFR I had set was running in the 13.8 range if I recall I have the card i could pull it back up .. But i was surprised at how lean it was getting under load on the big end..  I just look at the time and adjusted the PE fuel when I was at the track it was easier .. I know have it dialed in ..   
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« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2018, 01:24:47 PM »
It was a bit of trial and error .. many factors .... But the 12.8 AFR I had set was running in the 13.8 range if I recall I have the card i could pull it back up .. But i was surprised at how lean it was getting under load on the big end..  I just look at the time and adjusted the PE fuel when I was at the track it was easier .. I know have it dialed in ..

same here, quarter worse than eight.  I tnt at eighth mile a lot.  Bike made most power @ 11.7 on dyno, 11.5 is what I shoot for at track.  I use E 85. I started playing with nitrous and that's another curveball when I started pulling timing
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