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Upgrade or trade
« on: September 01, 2016, 12:33:48 PM »
Although her 04 1200C with stage 1 kit fits her well my wife is in need or more power and a appearance upgrade we didn't care for the color when we brought it but hey the deal was right, add that to the fact she is a power junkie, we were thinking of a V rod for her but with all its power upstairs and its lazy handling I'm thinking she may enjoy hot rodded Sporty more, lets say a 1250 kit with a good set of heads n6 cams and a mikuni 42 with cycle shacks, should give a V rod a run for the money not to mention the metrics.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2016, 01:50:26 PM »
Speed,
JMO mind you, but I think the upgrade will suit her well and a good winter project too.
My son has a V-Rod and we sat side by side one day on a running start and I pulled in front of him for about 100 yards and he was gaining to the point of passing.
Don't get me wrong, V-Rod's are no slouches by any means.
I'm running an 07' 1200 custom sporty (all stock) he had the CC's above me, which his bike proved it.
I think with the upgrade you suggest you will match a V-Rod, maybe better.
Again, just my opinion.

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 08:44:30 AM »
If she really wants more, break out the checkbook and talk to one of the vendors here- we have a good selection of builders for her engine. My favorite is an 88" kit, made my 04  a lot of fun. You can go 1250 without case boring, or 88-90" (or more) with case split/spigot bore.
Here's my 04 XL883 with an Axtell 88" kit, NRHS head porting, SuperTrapp 2-1, and SE AC with HQ0043 cams. (This was the street combo)
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 09:01:06 PM »
Rigid, that looks like a VERY fun ride, my goodness,,,,
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2016, 07:30:37 PM »
If she really wants more, break out the checkbook and talk to one of the vendors here- we have a good selection of builders for her engine. My favorite is an 88" kit, made my 04  a lot of fun. You can go 1250 without case boring, or 88-90" (or more) with case split/spigot bore.
Here's my 04 XL883 with an Axtell 88" kit, NRHS head porting, SuperTrapp 2-1, and SE AC with HQ0043 cams. (This was the street combo)   What other mods have you done to support the 88" clutch,tranny?
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2016, 08:22:28 PM »
Stock tranny held well for a lot of passes, Barnet extra plate kit with their heavy duty spring.  Made 103TQ/114HP with RS643 cams and no other changes.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 08:27:12 AM »
Buddy had a sporty with a zippers super hammer kit (still a 1200)......... that bike went 12:00 in street trim it made 103HP 98 TQ.......... with a few changes it went 11:20's 116HP 109TQ ( 1250 kit more head work and bigger cams!)

Be tuff to have a street bike run with a low 11 sec bike! ......... pretty sure that would fit the bill!

I would take a hot rod XL over a V rod anyday!  :pop:

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2016, 08:34:31 PM »

I would take a hot rod XL over a V rod anyday!  :pop:

I agree!  :up:

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 06:45:38 AM »
I would take a hot rod XL over a V rod anyday!  :pop:

Agreed, just for the handeling and ergos.

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2016, 08:48:02 PM »
Stock tranny held well for a lot of passes, Barnet extra plate kit with their heavy duty spring.  Made 103TQ/114HP with RS643 cams and no other changes.

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2016, 05:36:07 PM »
An 88" would be a very angry little beast. Got to ride a local dealer's 88" shop mule several years ago & yowza. Would just float the front tire up, rolling on the throttle in 3rd gear. 1st couple owners of that bike sold it after looping it. Not a ride for the inexperienced or faint of heart.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2016, 04:07:50 PM »
>100 TQ in an "883"  is a marvelous thing :)
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2016, 12:45:09 PM »
I'd love to do a digger-style rigid Sportster with an 88".

Never ridden one, but the S&S 89" stroker kit ought to be a lot of fun, as well.

Anyone ever go bigger than that? Don't know if anyone ever made pistons to run with the S&S stroker flywheels.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2016, 05:13:59 PM »
S&S offered a 100" sportster/early buell engine. Andy Simon will build you whatever size sportster you can afford :)
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2016, 07:34:23 PM »
Are the 1250 kits worth the bang for the buck?
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2016, 08:21:56 PM »
Ok guys the sporty is on the table and the heads are off, so the question is I want to go with a Hammer 1250 complete kit their heads,650cams but my wrench has never heard of them and want`s to use Branch heads and Andrews n6 cams. which combo do you guys think will make a better hot rod?
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2016, 05:14:49 AM »
Of the two, Hammer gets my vote, and I've run both flavors. Before you spend the coin, look at HeadQuarters stuff. Doug Coffey does excellent work, and gives you an other option.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 07:30:31 AM »
I am going with Andrews N6 Cams, Andrews 550 springs,Andrews Adjustable push rods,Wiseco K1685 Pistons, Kibblewhite Intake 1.71 and Exhaust Valves 1.48, Hooker 2 into 1 Header,
Custom Head Work,manual compression releases, still need to figure air cleaner and ignition system thinking Dyna on ignition any suggestions on Ignition and Air Cleaner/Filter opinions ?

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2016, 11:06:10 AM »
I used/prefer the Daytona Twin Tech ignition products, and have had good luck with the "heavy breather" style of air cleaners.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2016, 08:45:15 PM »
I went with complete crush package from Hammer performance with S&S slash slip ons, compression will be 10.8 do you guys think manual compression releases will be needed ?
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2016, 05:12:59 AM »
I would put them in while the heads are off. Rather have them and not need them, than need them and not have them. They can be plugged if you don't need them. But you are going to be pissed if hot starts become an issue and you don't have them.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2016, 07:46:17 AM »
I'm with Hoss put em in, they are not very much to purchase and I'll tell ya the sound of a starter kickin back sounds like hell. I'm putting them in mine and i"m sure there will be times that I'll go to start it and forget to push the release's but I'll sure know right quick like. :kick:

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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2016, 05:00:31 PM »
Although her 04 1200C with stage 1 kit fits her well my wife is in need or more power and a appearance upgrade we didn't care for the color when we brought it but hey the deal was right, add that to the fact she is a power junkie, we were thinking of a V rod for her but with all its power upstairs and its lazy handling I'm thinking she may enjoy hot rodded Sporty more, lets say a 1250 kit with a good set of heads n6 cams and a mikuni 42 with cycle shacks, should give a V rod a run for the money not to mention the metrics.

Victory Octane solves it all... or even an Indian Scout.
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2016, 07:28:01 PM »
Although her 04 1200C with stage 1 kit fits her well my wife is in need or more power and a appearance upgrade we didn't care for the color when we brought it but hey the deal was right, add that to the fact she is a power junkie, we were thinking of a V rod for her but with all its power upstairs and its lazy handling I'm thinking she may enjoy hot rodded Sporty more, lets say a 1250 kit with a good set of heads n6 cams and a mikuni 42 with cycle shacks, should give a V rod a run for the money not to mention the metrics.

Victory Octane solves it all... or even an Indian Scout...... Don`t believe the hype she has already beat several victorys at the track with just her screaming eagle stage 1 last time we were out she dialed in @ 12.4 and broke out
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Re: Upgrade or trade
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2016, 06:42:04 AM »
Put the big valves in, compression releases need to go on the pushrod side no room on plug side, will be a clean install. I will post a photo when done.