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Offline randyman

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Stiff Clutch
« on: August 29, 2017, 08:43:50 PM »
Love my 2017 Ultra Limited but holding the clutch in while stopped in traffic.  Does anybody know how to reduce the leverage?  I have broken several bones in both hands and have had carpel tunnel surgeries in both.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 04:11:35 AM »
I slip into neutral at lights, But the VPC with orange springs should work well.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 07:15:51 AM »
I never have the clutch in at a light.  cables if you have one,  along with  throw out bearing  get stressed  . get bumbed from behind you roll the gas and pop the clutch. Happened to a friend at a light, hit the car in front.. Just my way of riding  around town.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 11:15:34 AM »
I'm always in gear, and clutch in. You see a car from behind not stopping, or coming from the side, you better be able to roll fast. Cable and throw out bearings can be replaced. You, not so much.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 04:41:45 PM »
I'm always in gear, and clutch in. You see a car from behind not stopping, or coming from the side, you better be able to roll fast. Cable and throw out bearings can be replaced. You, not so much.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2017, 07:29:52 PM »
I'm always in gear, and clutch in. You see a car from behind not stopping, or coming from the side, you better be able to roll fast. Cable and throw out bearings can be replaced. You, not so much.
 
That can work also if your not boxed in . Me , eye's  always watching the rear and working the brake . so  far been lucky  the dumb asses looked up from the  ph. to hit the  brakes . Didn't make any diff.  in gear or not a  few yrs ago in  phoenix . Crack head with dump trk took out 6 or 8 sitting at a light. Everyone knows  there is alot of risk  riding a bike and dealing with  traffic.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 05:41:01 AM »
That can work also if your not boxed in . Me , eye's  always watching the rear and working the brake . so  far been lucky  the dumb asses looked up from the  ph. to hit the  brakes . Didn't make any diff.  in gear or not a  few yrs ago in  phoenix . Crack head with dump trk took out 6 or 8 sitting at a light. Everyone knows  there is alot of risk  riding a bike and dealing with  traffic.

Don't let yourself get boxed in!
I normally will stop way to the right or left of the lane with room to maneuver around the vehicle in front of me so I can ride away if I need too. Do not stop in the middle of the lane, right behind the vehicle! A seconds worth the thought might save your life some day.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 06:30:06 AM »
 :agree:..to the left or to the right ...and also because the centre of a lane can be slick with oil and other fluids dripped from vehicles....especially in wet conditions

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 02:18:49 PM »
Shifting to neutral at every stop in stop and go traffic is not practical

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 09:16:33 PM »
I've never ridden an M8, but my buddy bought a RK, and his big complaint was the clutch. It is hard to pull and engages quickly at the end of the travel. There is apparently no adjustment available on a hydraulic clutch.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2017, 12:09:32 AM »
There are a few options as far as reduced reach levers. I got one from Softbrake that works well and made a big difference, and Oberon makes one too. Or you can just bend your lever back about 1/2" or so. It will help.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2017, 02:20:03 AM »
I took out two M8 bikes for a test ride at demo day last Sunday :  a Street Glide Special and a Ultra Ltd.  I didn't find the clutch pull to be stiff or hard, just the lack of adjustment or engagement is what I didn't like . 

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2017, 08:14:43 AM »
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2017, 05:16:12 PM »
Shifting to neutral at every stop in stop and go traffic is not practical

With 2 major left  hand/wrist operations from 50 + yrs of pulling in clutches. It's very practical  for me . AMP clutch box, easy boy  pull,they work some . but  i don't need the stress from holding in the clutch, or another oper.  i ride almost everyday  all yr round . When you get bone on bone  pain from pulling the clutch in  , Netural feels pretty damn good.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2017, 03:19:32 PM »
One thing that might help & is simple & (relatively) cheap....

 Get the grips from the Ultra/Limited Low models. They are reduced diameter & will bring your hand closer to the lever for more..... leverage. Most people think that the bars on the low models are reduced in diameter at the grip sections, not so.... just different grips. Take a trip to the dealer & sit on a Low... you'll see.

Note... There are no stock, reduced diameter HEATED grips, if you want those you'll need to visit the P&A catalog.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2017, 04:46:15 PM »
. . . Note... There are no stock, reduced diameter HEATED grips, if you want those you'll need to visit the P&A catalog.

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My local dealer was able to order the reduced diam. heated grips for me in 2014.  I hope they still carry them for when mine crap out.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2017, 07:24:04 PM »
. . . Note... There are no stock, reduced diameter HEATED grips, if you want those you'll need to visit the P&A catalog.

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My local dealer was able to order the reduced diam. heated grips for me in 2014.  I hope they still carry them for when mine crap out.

 Are they the stock, plain rubber grips that are wired internally like the regular Limited, or rubber & chrome grips that are wired externally? The latter are through the P&A catalog.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2017, 05:42:50 AM »
. . . Note... There are no stock, reduced diameter HEATED grips, if you want those you'll need to visit the P&A catalog.

  :up:

My local dealer was able to order the reduced diam. heated grips for me in 2014.  I hope they still carry them for when mine crap out.

 Are they the stock, plain rubber grips that are wired internally like the regular Limited, or rubber & chrome grips that are wired externally? The latter are through the P&A catalog.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 08:36:00 AM »
I always put the bike in neutral at a light I know a lot of people don't they even train you not to I've heard, but I can shift into gear in a NY sec. if need be, or if hit form behind I'd rather be in neutral anyway...  :pop: my guess it's probably 50/50 those who do and those who don't...

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2017, 02:01:07 PM »
I put a set of Kuryakyn Trigger Levers on.  I’ve used them in the past to help my little arthritic hands with the clutch.  On the M8 they helped a little bit, but not near enough.  I wish Harley or somebody would address the problem.  I’d suggest calling the HD customer service line and let them know that a significant number of us are having an issue with the non adjustable hydraulic clutch being “a handful”.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2017, 04:09:50 PM »
I’d suggest calling the HD customer service line and let them know that a significant number of us are having an issue with the non adjustable hydraulic clutch being “a handful”.

Problem with that is the majority of riders probably have no issue, or maybe even like the hydraulic clutch, I know I like it. The aftermarket is you only answer.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2017, 05:47:14 PM »
 Rekluse makes a auto clutch for TC they will probably come out with one for M8 soon.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 08:17:29 AM »
 :agree:  Auto Clutch 

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 05:39:24 PM »
:agree:  Auto Clutch 

https://youtu.be/sGS7Pu9i8Gg

Saw this demoed at Laconia Rally two years ago. I was impressed with it. Don't need it yet but am starting to have some hand issues, so down the road may be a good option.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2017, 05:50:28 AM »
:agree:  Auto Clutch 

https://youtu.be/sGS7Pu9i8Gg

Saw this demoed at Laconia Rally two years ago. I was impressed with it. Don't need it yet but am starting to have some hand issues, so down the road may be a good option.
  :up: yup ! when someone posted this earlier and I saw how easy the install was and how it worked I was sold on the idea for down the road if I ever get to the point I just can't pull the clutch any longer 
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2017, 03:06:38 PM »
Rekluse makes a auto clutch for TC they will probably come out with one for M8 soon.

This. A buddy of mine has one on his ‘16 Ultra and loves it. Great suggestion hd06.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2017, 05:13:18 PM »
Don't know if this applies.

If the reservoir is overfilled they will create back-pressure. DOT4 should NOT be added between services.
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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2018, 03:15:34 PM »
I ordered a Rekluse from one of my local dealers yesterday.

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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2018, 08:02:57 PM »
I  bought the Soft brake lever for the reduced pull which seems to help for all day riding~5-600 miles.

Some folks on the HDforum indicated łthat using  AIM's A&S clutch springs  with the Soft brake or other reduced pull lever was very good, I remember some reporting of this combination may be for stock or stage 1&2 -


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Re: Stiff Clutch
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2018, 05:28:24 PM »
Use the orange springs with the AIM. Nice easy pull and works well with the Oberon or softbrake lever.