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Offline Prostock

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Flat rate for cam install
« on: October 20, 2017, 02:29:45 PM »
Have my first M8 cam install next week.  Anyone know what our competitors "Harley" is charging :SM:

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 03:17:01 PM »
7 hours here... I believe

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 04:31:40 PM »
Cold called to 3 different dealers here in Arizona.   1- 12hrs @ $129.00 an hour.  2-5hrs@ $125.00 an hour.  3-8.5hrs @ $100.00 an hour. 

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 05:49:42 PM »
Cold called to 3 different dealers here in Arizona.   1- 12hrs @ $129.00 an hour.  2-5hrs@ $125.00 an hour.  3-8.5hrs @ $100.00 an hour.

12 hours?  :hyst: :banghead: I did a "cut the push rods" cam change on a twin cam in about 5 hours and wasn't even trying!

Only one cam in a M8, should be able to do it in 1/2 the time! :potstir:

But seriously, is there any reason a M8 should take longer than a TC? I would think a bit less time as you don't have the inner tensioner and second cam and chain to install and time. :scratch:

Pulling the valve covers on a wet head or oil head would add some time so it would depend on the model.
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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 06:27:32 AM »
7 hours here... I believe
Does that include tune time as well?

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 11:29:42 AM »
Based on the newest labor guide I have (2010) cams are a 4 hour job.

On a twin cam, the book pays 4 hours, including new cam bearings in the case.   So a M8 should be less.  Basically the same job, less one cam and bearing, plus  a little extra plumbing. 

And the Tune from a Harley dealer is a flash.  So an hour for that, max. 

The dealer is probably stacking.  Adding time to remove the exhaust and tank etc.  That work is already included in the 4 hour charge.  And 8 hours is just stupid.  Replacing the cases on a twin cam pays 8 hours.  That's out of the frame, torn down completely and back together, running.

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 09:44:58 AM »
top end installs are longer that is for sure I have done 16 114 kits now and it still take more time . Just not as easy as the TC was rocker box and all. Intake is a mother to get in and out . They need to machine the heads further back it very tight and can be a PIA to get in out or in. Oil lines etc  cam install though 4-5 hours would be the norm but then again what ex is on the bike etc
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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2017, 12:02:30 PM »
I am at 6 for cam including full exhaust removal.  Thinking 12 for cam and big bore :nix:

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2017, 01:25:03 PM »
I think that the 12-14 range for the top is is about right . I just completed a 114 kit today it took me from 12.9 hours ( used a time clock to keep accurate time) that included adding the new clutch springs swapping over the valve springs as well. That freaking intake drove me nuts I install it before rocker boxes as well and its still a mother to fit . I know I keep complaining about it HA HA
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Re: Flat rate for cam install
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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2017, 06:16:04 PM »
Not to hijack the thread but I install intake manifold when I install heads  once front head installed I bolted the manifold to the front head then install rear head worked slick for me
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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 06:18:42 AM »
top end installs are longer that is for sure I have done 16 114 kits now and it still take more time . Just not as easy as the TC was rocker box and all. Intake is a mother to get in and out . They need to machine the heads further back it very tight and can be a PIA to get in out or in. Oil lines etc  cam install though 4-5 hours would be the norm but then again what ex is on the bike etc

FYI, there is an alignment tool available to make your life easier:

https://goo.gl/KTrXvV
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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2017, 06:04:35 PM »
1 to 12hours?  3 to 8 hours?  WTF ever.   They have a book with hours involved.  A 11 hour window quote is a bunch of BS.  The Stealerships are raping the consumer.  Will come back to haunt them one of these days.

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2017, 12:38:44 PM »
I think he meant Dealer #1  Dealer #2 and Dealer #3   Not 1 to 12 hours..

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Re: Flat rate for cam install
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2018, 10:59:48 AM »
Not to hijack the thread but I install intake manifold when I install heads  once front head installed I bolted the manifold to the front head then install rear head worked slick for me

  :idea:  great info  :up:
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