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2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« on: December 01, 2017, 08:15:49 AM »
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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 02:31:28 PM »
Wow that's one darn good 110 I don't think Ive seen a set of 585s shine like that looking at dynos lately. what  fairy dust is in the works here? How about compression stats ?

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 03:38:26 PM »
 A while back there was a example of a lc 124 that had compression added and head work an it reminded this reminded me of that . Look good

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2017, 06:54:19 AM »
That 585 is a great grind that gets overlooked for some of the in style grinds

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2017, 07:36:47 AM »
My current motor is a 117 sporting a t590 with a very identical graph other than mines 139/134. When I slipped a set of 585s in and put it on the dyno crap it all fell down well into the 120s. I was short on time to tinker and quite frankly didn't know what to mess with .Saw this and just got envious I guess seeing a set of 585s doing such a great job congrates :bike:

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2017, 08:13:02 AM »
Good result and obviously a happy combination of parts, not a great or bad cam, good combination.

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2017, 03:32:39 PM »
yep - pretty impressive
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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 07:06:08 AM »
Wow that's one darn good 110 I don't think Ive seen a set of 585s shine like that looking at dynos lately. what  fairy dust is in the works here? How about compression stats ?


The Comp is set at 10.8 also has a heavy breather

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2017, 07:06:01 PM »
That's good head work matche'd to a good pipe and cam combo.congrats 😊

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2017, 11:56:31 PM »
That 585 is a great grind that gets overlooked for some of the in style grinds

Have not seen a 585 do this well

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We know Larry knows his stuff with the headwork
Who did the tune ?
Do you have an AFR chart ?

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2017, 04:38:11 AM »
Larry recommends the S&S 585 with his head work quite a bit, and he will also tell you to squeeze it more than S&S suggests and it appears the OP took Larry's advice..

 Nice combo and good tune.  :up: :up:

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2017, 07:26:37 AM »
Very nice    :up:

Mix of a great application of parts, head porting and a great tune.     :chop:

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 08:23:40 PM »
Any idea of the CCP OP?

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 11:47:39 AM »
 Bike is at dyno now. Put s&s 585 in at 10:1 and .030 gasket on a 117. 58mms intake and I hope to get a graph like this. GMS did the heads so should be close.
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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 05:48:01 PM »
Bike is at dyno now. Put s&s 585 in at 10:1 and .030 gasket on a 117. 58mms intake and I hope to get a graph like this. GMS did the heads so should be close.

Compression is a bit low for that cam isn't it? What is your CCP?

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2018, 06:51:06 AM »
I felt same way about compression and wanted more but S&S uses it at 10.2:1 in the 106 kit. I wanted a 40-42 intake close but was talked out of it .

Greg at GMS has a couple records racing and some of the shop owners in here will know him. Doesn't spend time in the boards too much himself.
So he educated me on a couple things... this being a 117 we aren't talking the old 88 to 95 days... he isn't agreeable the Early intake closes on the offerings for big lift in big engines. I am .004 in the hole so good 10:1. Says the bigger engine makes up for the low end at 2k. Most early intake closes run out in the middle sooner. He thought the duration being similar, a later close will pull much harder at this size. I never thought much about size of engine, just compression and I intake close matching with lift/head flow. He says a bigger motor will act different to the same cam and come on sooner on the bigger motor.

I hope he is right. New info to me as 88,95 and 103 all seem to act the same to a given cam.  So am I going to have enough?  Like to think so.  I ran the same cam in a 95 at 10.5 so a 117 at 10:1?
Sure there is some on the table with this build, but this is a cross country ride all day bike.  Greg himself wanted more lift and a later close like ss640, but he is a horsepower nut.  They had a bike from Maine there getting a 143 tuned at 185hp with NA and no boosters.
Like to think the 585 wont be hurting anything running 10-12 hour days but will pull away from the Pack Too.
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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2018, 06:03:37 PM »

Our builder said the same, had a 116 built with a 585 cam and it hits off at 2500 with 129ft/lb of tq and table top flat through 4500. A real stump puller. Just my way of saying right on.

Iíve never seen this kind of Hp out of a 585. Must be larryís Head work

I felt same way about compression and wanted more but S&S uses it at 10.2:1 in the 106 kit. I wanted a 40-42 intake close but was talked out of it .

Greg at GMS has a couple records racing and some of the shop owners in here will know him. Doesn't spend time in the boards too much himself.
So he educated me on a couple things... this being a 117 we aren't talking the old 88 to 95 days... he isn't agreeable the Early intake closes on the offerings for big lift in big engines. I am .004 in the hole so good 10:1. Says the bigger engine makes up for the low end at 2k. Most early intake closes run out in the middle sooner. He thought the duration being similar, a later close will pull much harder at this size. I never thought much about size of engine, just compression and I intake close matching with lift/head flow. He says a bigger motor will act different to the same cam and come on sooner on the bigger motor.

I hope he is right. New info to me as 88,95 and 103 all seem to act the same to a given cam.  So am I going to have enough?  Like to think so.  I ran the same cam in a 95 at 10.5 so a 117 at 10:1?
Sure there is some on the table with this build, but this is a cross country ride all day bike.  Greg himself wanted more lift and a later close like ss640, but he is a horsepower nut.  They had a bike from Maine there getting a 143 tuned at 185hp with NA and no boosters.
Like to think the 585 wont be hurting anything running 10-12 hour days but will pull away from the Pack Too.

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2018, 11:14:12 AM »
Any idea of the CCP OP?


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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2018, 09:25:43 AM »
those numbers are right where I see them as well . We did that one with our CNC heads it rolled 126/130  with the 110 kit .. They really work well . I bet he is one happy guy riding along on that .  :up:
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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2018, 11:10:06 AM »
those numbers are right where I see them as well . We did that one with our CNC heads it rolled 126/130  with the 110 kit .. They really work well . I bet he is one happy guy riding along on that .  :up:

How would you compare that cam  with your 600 Steve ?

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2018, 07:44:32 AM »
What where the numbers of this build? For some reason I canít view the attachment from the first post. Just curious since I am doing a very similar build myself right now. Thanks!

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2018, 10:34:35 AM »
What where the numbers of this build? For some reason I canít view the attachment from the first post. Just curious since I am doing a very similar build myself right now. Thanks!

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Re: 2016, 110", FLHX, SS585, HPI55-58, Borezilla, WFOStage2+
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2018, 11:26:10 AM »
Sounds like a healthy motor for sure! Canít wait for mine to be done I will be sure to post!