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Offline tacojunkie

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103 to 110
« on: January 03, 2018, 12:10:59 PM »
What would be the cost of going from 103 to a 110  build? Anything that  needs upgrading? How does that effect any warranty left on the bike?

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 12:42:11 PM »
HD and S&S have drop on 110 big bore piston/cylinder kits for the 96/103 engines,  somewhere between $1100 and $1200 depending on who you get them from. ECM recalibration is required for best performance, and typically the clutch needs attention at a minimum.

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 02:18:24 PM »
A little attention to the heads would be recommended also.

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 02:25:42 PM »
I installed a HD Tire Shredder kit. I like the idea of using parts that are known to work well together. The only parts from the kit that I didn't use were the lifters. Instead, I used S&S premiums. I got a good PV dyno tune, and I was rewarded with a great running, powerful bike.  The kit and the tune plus labor was pricey, but I didn't want to piecemeal it.
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 02:53:20 PM »
What things cost varies greatly with where you are located.

 A 110 S&S kit installed, with dyno tune will be about $2500 here in the SF Bay area. (Not including tuning device). Keep in mind hourly rates here are well north of $125/hr.

 I think they quoted $700 labor if I remember correctly. The tune is ~$400 of the bill.
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 10:21:13 PM »
like rocker said probably about 2000-2500 all said and done (correctly :wink:)

make sure you do a dyno (re-) tune
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 09:00:06 PM »
Whatever company you get to do the top end, ask them to back up the bottom end with written warranty.
Any sort of power increase up top will shorten the crank / rod life, (if you’re into touring and logging miles like me).
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 09:58:43 PM »
Whatever company you get to do the top end, ask them to back up the bottom end with written warranty.
Any sort of power increase up top will shorten the crank / rod life, (if you’re into touring and logging miles like me).

Ummm....don't think so
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 10:52:43 PM »
Whatever company you get to do the top end, ask them to back up the bottom end with written warranty.
Any sort of power increase up top will shorten the crank / rod life, (if you’re into touring and logging miles like me).

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 12:04:12 AM »
 :pop:
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 05:32:04 AM »
Whatever company you get to do the top end, ask them to back up the bottom end with written warranty.
Any sort of power increase up top will shorten the crank / rod life, (if you’re into touring and logging miles like me).

 I don't think anyone is going to provide warranty on that which they have not worked on, so I expect that request would double the expense.
 "Pull engine, split cases, either DH with good rods or S&S wheels, maybe add a timken bearing/proper spacer on the left, and a lefty on the right- reassemble, and reinstall."

Some would argue, since your that far down, go ahead and bore the cases for 4 1/8" setup, and use a 4 5/8" stroke wheel, not that much more $.

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2018, 10:12:21 AM »
Whatever company you get to do the top end, ask them to back up the bottom end with written warranty.
Any sort of power increase up top will shorten the crank / rod life, (if you’re into touring and logging miles like me).

Ummm....don't think so

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2018, 11:54:06 AM »
Well lets see about that cost......
The kit, (www.harley-davidson.com).............................$1849.95.
The new pipe.............................................................$1000.00.
The new air filter........................................................$200.00.
The crank done..........................................................$1100.00.
The faster cams.........................................................$400.00.
The dyno tune...........................................................$400.00.
The oil change for the new motor.................................$100.00.
The unexpected things we find at the time of the build....$400.00
                                                                                  $5349.95

This is the closer cost of most builds that I see, I'm being kind on the numbers.
I don't have head work on there and a few other things.
But this is closer to the cost we all go to eventually because of the addiction.....lol.
Better and cheaper to think it out the first time, build it one time right.
Good luck with anyway you go.

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2018, 01:42:26 PM »
I did the stage 5 on mine, normal price with pipe and tune is around 5K.. I did have the crank welded also..

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2018, 04:05:04 PM »
What would be the cost of going from 103 to a 110  build? Anything that  needs upgrading? How does that effect any warranty left on the bike?


this is the op's question and he's not specific about other needs...the piston & cylinder kit depending where you buy it is $1000-$1300
labor should top out at $800
dyno tune $300-$400 and a few bucks for some gaskets
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2018, 09:31:11 PM »
What would be the cost of going from 103 to a 110  build? Anything that  needs upgrading? How does that effect any warranty left on the bike?


this is the op's question and he's not specific about other needs...the piston & cylinder kit depending where you buy it is $1000-$1300
labor should top out at $800
dyno tune $300-$400 and a few bucks for some gaskets

Cams and Lifter? Clutch?  Warranty?  That means a dealer build with Harley Street Legal SE parts and tuner. If that's the case go ask your dealer what it would cost.  OP's question is to vague. He has to many variables .  Bob

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2018, 10:19:20 PM »
My friend just got the Sg3 shredder kit installed on his year old bike two weeks ago.
He has a good relationship with the dealer and even though he had approx 15,000 kilometres on the ‘17 Limited, they wrote it up as having it installed at time of purchase I believe.
So if they can do it, why can other/all dealers in that situation?
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2018, 08:21:48 AM »
Because technically it is fraud.
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2018, 10:21:16 AM »
Because technically it is fraud.
Actually, Hoss, I went back and read what I wrote and I’m maybe spreading “fake news”, haha.
All I can say is the dealer said the parts installed will be covered and his extended warranty is to remain intact.
So maybe it isn’t back-dated, but the remaining time and kilometres will be under warranty.
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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2018, 01:21:44 PM »
Because technically it is fraud.
Actually, Hoss, I went back and read what I wrote and I’m maybe spreading “fake news”, haha.
All I can say is the dealer said the parts installed will be covered and his extended warranty is to remain intact.
So maybe it isn’t back-dated, but the remaining time and kilometres will be under warranty.

The mother ship is cracking down on this too. The engine kit must be installed at the time of purchase to be covered on the factory warranty.

If the dealer wants to cover it, that is a different deal, but it will not help much on the road if you need warranty work. Again, it is one of those deals where the MoCo might just kill the factory warranty if someone in power notices the kit was installed after the fact.
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2018, 02:51:06 PM »
I believe we have 60 days from purchase for coverage

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2018, 05:12:26 PM »
I believe we have 60 days from purchase for coverage

Correct.  Anything else would be fraud or just your local dealer stepping up. 

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Re: 103 to 110
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2018, 09:24:21 PM »
I believe we have 60 days from purchase for coverage

You are correct.  However, in late November or early December the MOCO extended their custom coverage. 

The program also includes a Custom Coverage Extension on eligible motorcycles still under factory warranty through Feb. 28, 2018.

Custom Coverage allows eligible vehicles to have street legal H-D parts & accessories installed at any Harley-Davidson dealership to be added their 2-year factory motorcycle warranty.
Bring qualifying customers back into the dealership to receive the added warranty coverage for Parts & Accessories.
This can generate additional service work during the winter months.