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Offline hotrodshovel

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2018, 11:26:35 AM »
The stock seat seems to fit my arse, strange enough.  Good advice Hoss, nothing to loose trying the demos at the dealership.   I was thinking of grabbing a Mustang with adjustable/removable backrest.

Crazy but on my Shovel I have a LaPera Cobra.   It is remarkably comfortable but you wouldn't think so to look at it.
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2018, 02:59:12 PM »
My back is jacked as well with bulging discs at both ends & a pinched nerve at C6/C7. A rider's backrest is wonderful, but a good seat with good lower back support will work almost as well.

On my '02 FXD, my C&C Sporttour has a nice, deep "bucket" & a good 6+" of support for my lower back. The factory footboard kit off the Switchback gives me more than enough room to stretch out & move my feet around. 12" apehangers put my hands at shoulder level.

With the bars just slightly forward of being parallel with the forks, I'm sitting up straight, with my arms straight out in front of me. Very comfortable & not one iota of back, neck, or shoulder pain.

I'll tell you what really surprised me was the difference in rider room between a Dyna & the Street Glide. Rode down to a dealership to demo the then new M8. The Street Glide was comfortable, but the fairing & bars were WAY too close for comfort (I'm only 5'7" but built like a gorilla). When I jumped back on my Super Glide, I realized just how much more leg & arm room my "little" Dyna had than the bagger.
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2018, 11:54:55 PM »
Suspension, seat, bars and foot controls make for a way better riding experience.
I didn't know how crappy HD suspension was till I finally ponied up the cash for some rear Hagons. Now it feels like I ride on marshmallows.
After feeling what It did for the back I went B deep into the front and got the best of the best. Next year Ill get Ohlins for the rear. Suspension does wonders for back issues. I found out the hard way.
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2018, 08:06:59 PM »
Well my 11 Fatboy Lo is my touring rig.  I've had Electra Glides, Road Glides, Wide Glides, Dyans, Customs, Heritages, and find my Fatboy to be the most comfortable of them all.  I replaced the shocks with Shotgun Shocks.  Folks have had problems with them myself included but they're on top of making it right.  I'm no canyon carver but you can set them up soft or hard at any height. I replaced the springs in the forks with a monoshock I think they were called and though they don't ride any smoother they're a bit better in the corners.  I find for me and my screwed up back and bogus shoulders 14" bars make me lean ahead and the bumps are better absorbed.  I'm even thinking of going to 16" bars. Leaning ahead makes a back rest worthless but when I tried them I found my back took the brunt of the jolt in a bump. I'm thinking of trying a fairing but have to save my pennys to get one I like.  I don't mind growing old, just hate all the aches and pains that go with it. 

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2018, 03:41:32 AM »
I'm set for minimally invasive lower back surgery the 19th of this month for a blown out disk and a piece of bone floating around. I ride an '05 RG and I put a detach tourpak mounted solo and I can lean against it on long trips, I also leave my passenger footboards on when traveling so I can do "crotchrocket" style riding, it actually feels good to stretch my legs back like that, I catch the heels of my boots on the front of them. My longest was 816 miles in one day, that was 3 years ago. I can't do that anymore.I still do long rides but not that many miles in one day. I told my Surgeon, I expect a minimum of at least 15 more years riding my motorcycle. He assured that would not be a problem on his end of this. 

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2018, 04:57:15 AM »
Skin, I never thought about stretching my legs back to the p-pegs.  Thats something I will certainly try.  My whole issue is being static for long periods.  I need to move my body and mostly...avoid the damn slouch. 
Snowyone, I jus put on 14" apes and canted them forward, as much as I can to still utilize my detachable windshield (surprisingly I can have them nearly where I wanted them save a few degrees) for the same reason, to put my body in a forward aggressive lean which prevents the slouch.  And it worked but the only problem was, after a couple of hours I needed to move my body and I was pretty much frozen in that position and the sh%t starts going nuts in my back. 
Plus my legs were asking for some stretching as well.
Here is my approach, I have a Mustang Sport solo seat coming (just not as wide as the full touring seat. Had one years ago and loved it) with riders back rest.   I will cant my bars in slightly to allow some back support from the back rest.  If this does not work out I'll put my FLH bars back on and see.
Finally Highway bars fitted with some pegs to extend my legs.  I was all over the place trying to decide if I like the look or not but fu@k the look.  Function before form and I gotta be comfortable.  Besides there is a bit of nostalgia that comes with the highway bars.
Riding is the singular great pleasure I have and Im not even close to giving it up so I need to be physically happy.
I briefly thought about a new bike like a Street Glide but the $$ start piling up and I'm close to having this Fatboy paid off.  No more payments for a while.
Skin, by the way,  I know what chronic pain is and I don't wish it on anyone, but I always tell people who are slotted for back surgery to just make sure you have tried EVERYTHING before going under the knife, Witch Doctor included!!  I had several surgeries all trying to correct what the last guy did. I'm talking the lower half of my spine from S-1 to T-10 fused and bolted together, bone grafts and cages, an absolute mess of scar tissue and each surgeon told me how I was going to be better. Right.  They still want to cut me NOT HAPPENING.  Chronic pain is no joke. The meds are poison and come with their own problems. Often they don't work and everyone around you suffers too.  Please be sure surgery is the absolute last resort.  Its been 11 years and well...I hope you don't have to deal with it.  Good luck and I truly hope it all goes well for you.  Hey, there are succes stories out there, I was chewed up more than the average bad back and all things considered I was given a gift.  I'm home, on the right side of the dirt, can walk and can ride my bike so what the f7ck am I complaining about?  I wish you the best pal.
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2018, 06:03:52 AM »
hotrodshovel, I'll be having it done at Mayfield Clinic in Cincinnati and the Surgeon is the best in his field. They are #2 in the Nation for successful spine surgeries. Plus I have done lots of research and have had quite a few testimonies from my Brothers that have had a more aggressive surgery than I'm getting, and they ride a lot. Usually the way I plan a trip is to stop about every 100 miles and do stretches, gas, piss and pay inside so I have to walk to pay. After a good 15 to 20 minutes of moving around I'm good for another 100 miles or so. My days of getting on the bike and hittin' it only stopping for gas and piss are long gone. I just kick back and enjoy the scenery. I'll post the results. In the mean time I'm staying low to avoid this nasty a$$ flu going around.

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2018, 11:22:40 AM »
My back surgery, second one, was two years ago now fused solid with hardware from L2 to S1. My back does not limit my riding in any way however my 78 years on this earth does limit me some.
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2018, 04:10:04 PM »
I put on 14" apes which keep my hand at just about shoulder length and keep me from slouching.  Its a bit more aggressive position and I feel as though I am more in control of the machine rather than just sitting on top of it rolling along.  So that helps.

My windshield keeps the wind off my chest and I cut about 4" off it so the wind just flows to the top of my helmet.  Its no longer in my field of vision.  That windshield is probably the singular most important piece of gear that makes long trips doable.
a windshield with a recurve has got to be the best thing I put on. Next are the fork mounted wind deflectors,they keep ya from getting beat up by the wind as another poster stated.

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2018, 04:15:20 PM »
My back surgery, second one, was two years ago now fused solid with hardware from L2 to S1. My back does not limit my riding in any way however my 78 years on this earth does limit me some.

and damn good on you for still being here and still riding.

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2018, 09:36:00 PM »
I'm set for minimally invasive lower back surgery the 19th of this month for a blown out disk and a piece of bone floating around. I ride an '05 RG and I put a detach tourpak mounted solo and I can lean against it on long trips, I also leave my passenger footboards on when traveling so I can do "crotchrocket" style riding, it actually feels good to stretch my legs back like that, I catch the heels of my boots on the front of them. My longest was 816 miles in one day, that was 3 years ago. I can't do that anymore.I still do long rides but not that many miles in one day. I told my Surgeon, I expect a minimum of at least 15 more years riding my motorcycle. He assured that would not be a problem on his end of this.

rocket style works for me   :up:
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2018, 10:40:27 PM »
 Skin: All the best pal, I'm sure you will sail through it.
02 Ultra: Much respect for staying on two wheels.  I'm 64 this May and I have no plans of getting off my bike. Being on my motorcycles brings me the kind of joy that you guys know about, can't tell anyone here on HarleyTechTalk anything about the love of motorcycles. We have an 84 yo Member in my Club who still rides on two wheels, yea he's a bit slow and can't make rides of any length but he shows up when he can, guys like you and him are my inspiration although you have quite a ways to get to his age.

UPDATE:  I got my Mustang seat with Rider blackest and it is miraculous.  I'm past the point of looking cool but properly set the back rest takes all the G force of my torso from what is making its way around the windshield.   Its remarkable but my back and upper body are completely relaxed.  It is a total success.  The forward adjustment screw/knob did not have enough travel so I put a chrome acorn nut that fit the thread on the end and that extended the adjustment about 3/8" which is perfect, more than I need.

Next week my 'Mustache bars' come and that will give me the option of putting my feet up to get some stretch & if necessary I can bolt on some highway pegs for additional movement.

I'm very happy and my road time will be greatly increased. This is all great news. 

Oh, and a $9 plastic throttle thumb screw lock. One more thing to ease my newly arthritic hands, Mueller will help my clutch hand.

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2018, 02:15:40 AM »
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Oh, and a $9 plastic throttle thumb screw lock. One more thing to ease my newly arthritic hands, Mueller will help my clutch hand.

 I for one never saw the need for windshields, let alone cruise control, on a motorcycle.......... until I had them.  :wink:
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2018, 04:37:49 AM »
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Oh, and a $9 plastic throttle thumb screw lock. One more thing to ease my newly arthritic hands, Mueller will help my clutch hand.

 I for one never saw the need for windshields, let alone cruise control, on a motorcycle.......... until I had them:wink:

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2018, 04:54:40 AM »
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Oh, and a $9 plastic throttle thumb screw lock. One more thing to ease my newly arthritic hands, Mueller will help my clutch hand.

 I for one never saw the need for windshields, let alone cruise control, on a motorcycle.......... until I had them.  :wink:

You forgot to mention the radio...
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2018, 06:21:04 AM »
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Oh, and a $9 plastic throttle thumb screw lock. One more thing to ease my newly arthritic hands, Mueller will help my clutch hand.

 I for one never saw the need for windshields, let alone cruise control, on a motorcycle.......... until I had them.  :wink:

You forgot to mention the radio...

And Road Glide!  :hyst:
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2018, 06:53:27 AM »
HAHA really, why don't I just go trade the bastard in for a Glide of some sort....

funny thing about radios, they distract the hell out of me.   I prefer to listen to the bike, the road and other vehicles.  Thats just me and don't go by me because I like sour milk.
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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2018, 03:33:19 AM »
Radios are for when you have a rattle on your bike and can't find it, just turn it up LOL and I can't use the old "because the OL is yappin' in my ear" saying because she rides her own bike.

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Re: long rides and a busted back
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2018, 05:48:47 PM »
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Oh, and a $9 plastic throttle thumb screw lock. One more thing to ease my newly arthritic hands, Mueller will help my clutch hand.

 I for one never saw the need for windshields, let alone cruise control, on a motorcycle.......... until I had them.  :wink:

You forgot to mention the radio...

I knew you’d step up.  :wink:
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