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Offline BVHOG

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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2018, 06:15:41 AM »
Now with the common cell phone holding MOVIES taken from the phone ,Take make a movie while they are tuning your bike. Lets say they run it PAST the 6.2k RPM limit that most set and they tell ya "I did not" ya have it in the phone. I myself will be bring a 1 hr tape with a old school 8mm recorder to my next tune. FULL list per this forum and PROOF after all is completed!!

If you don't trust your tuning shop enough to not video him then you need to find a new guy.  Been filmed many times with a cell phone but If you wan't to bring an 8 mm camera to the shop for the entire tune you can video me kicking you out of my shop. There are many things that need the tuners full concentration  and attention while making calibration corrections etc. and you will only serve to be a distraction.
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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2018, 06:31:51 AM »
And who the hell still uses an 8mm camera?
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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2018, 10:51:32 AM »
Thanks for the giggle, guys. We had a window ( as big as the dyno cell) that folks could watch from- I'd forget they were there, until one of them would bang on the glass 8^)

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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2018, 09:18:42 AM »
FIRST:cell phone have a magic way of getting lost or stolen. As I have a fully functioning (at the time of this post) 8mm unit with ZOOM and the tape made can be placed in a safe, any changes that magically happen can be PROOFED! I trust the tuner I have now but want the doc setup list and the tune recorded. Covers them and ME!!! IF the tuner wants to suggest my leaving there shop BECAUSE of the list and recording I AM AT THE INCORRECT TUNER!!

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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2018, 09:38:53 AM »
The video on your cell phone can be saved in The Cloud, transferred to your computer, saved to a disk drive, a thumb drive, transferred to multiple places for safe storage. This can all be done while recording, or at the very least before you even leave the room. Even if your phone gets lost, the video can be recovered.
Your film gets lost or burned up or stolen, it's gone for good.
I'm not here to argue your point of recording the procedure, just your point that film is a better choice than digital video for this scenario. If you want to use Super 8, I say go for it! You can have the neighbors over and show your vacation films and your Dyno tune film on a sheet on the wall, make party of it like my parents used to in the old days!

Ok, most of this post was just me being a wise ass, no offense intended. Just having some fun!
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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2018, 10:47:29 AM »
I truly understand BUT 4 the fact that I don't use a cell phone. cloud or off site backup.Have reported a hack to Chevron tho. Did the service station Wayne console upgrades in my area. THEY hacked the backup files including credit card #s. Gave company phone back when I retired and will not get one till I have to. I do have a pay by the hour 5 year old cheap unit that just magically turned up. JUST FOR THE RECORD!!

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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2018, 11:20:20 AM »
I just want to know what happened to you to make it this extreme to want to record the tune and keep the tape in the safe. I have tuned countless bikes and never had anyone want to film me in this manner. This is just very odd. Most of the people and dealers that I tune for have done the homework and know how I operate I don't hide anything but I do think I would not allow someone to demand all of this I would refuse to do the work for them. Maybe I am reading all this wrong maybe not I don't know. Now I do have a extensive check list I perform before I will tune a bike to make sure it is safe for me and the bike and I have had a lot of people watch as I tune and some will film for a few minutes but not in this manner. I also spend the time with people and go over what it is to tune and how I do it. Why so extreme sir ?
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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2018, 10:10:02 AM »
Just to clear up what I am trying to get across. The recording and setup of the bike before the tune is a way of keeping a recorded record of the list that HTT has put together. I think the list covers just about everything that should be checked. This IS NOT a play on what the person tuning the bike is doing or has done but a record and like a check list. I have had a bad time with over $2000 so far in trust me tunes between the dealership and several private tunes. The recording would also help IF something comes up with the bike. Bad or incorrectly tuned or what I call GREMLINS I can go back on the recording and verify that this what was performed. NOT JUST MY WORD BUT PROOF! The list is a great list and should be what EVERY tuner would expect be performed before the tune. IF you read the bottom of most service invoices they have a disclaimer of damage to COVER the business!!  :hug: I TRUST every rider (MOST) I run next to. If you can't trust them??? then I RIDE ALONE!!

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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2018, 01:20:36 PM »
I don't think anyone would like you doing that. It does boil down to trust one way or another. Would you go to the restaurant and set up a cam to make sure they gave you all 3 eggs in that 3 egg omlet?  Would you want your employer filming every single move you make at work? Not just a general security cam but one pointed right at you to make sure you don't mess up? It would be damn nerve racking wouldn't it.  Let these guys do their job in peace. You do nothing but start a bad relationship with the shop by wanting to film and how do you expected to be treated by someone who you make it VERY clear to that you do not trust.
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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2018, 10:37:42 AM »
I must clear up what I would be recording. The check list/procedure used  for my maintained records first, second as a record of actions taken per that list. Then a recording of (IF POSSIBLE) of the tables NOT THE DYNO OPERATOR. Check the posts on U Tube as a reference point. As most who do dyno tunes they have mulit computer for backups. Some lose files and computers do crash & thumb drive VANISH!!??!!! The use of a recording device/PERSON to record/TRACK A PERSON would be a "VERY" intrusive thing. The trust I would hope was there before you set the time and date of your tune. WHERE you developed that trust may be by friend or internet, your gamble (GOT BURNED)!!As for employer tracking you, I WAS tracked AT ALL times when in there vehicle by gps. when that vehicle moved  they have you on computer. The fact that ANY TIME (company time/veh movment) they wanted they could drug test you including site requests AT TIME OF YOUR ARRIVEL U TEST. If you are not doing anything INCORRECT I felt no worries. I felt that after a while YOU have a issue with NOT bustn my chops or finding anything incorrect. New job, friends, place to eat?? OR NEW/several TUNERS!

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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2018, 11:24:41 AM »
Keep a few copies of the MAP once completed. And I always keep the MAP tables in Excel just for reference. Even photographing the tables as seen on the PC screen is sort of an ancient way to do things. Paste the data in Excel, or open the MAP and do screen shots and save to JPG files. The last thing I would think was efficient when trying to find data would be looking through a  video for it.


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Re: Before you Dyno tune check list
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2018, 04:57:28 PM »
Keep a few copies of the MAP once completed. And I always keep the MAP tables in Excel just for reference. Even photographing the tables as seen on the PC screen is sort of an ancient way to do things. Paste the data in Excel, or open the MAP and do screen shots and save to JPG files. The last thing I would think was efficient when trying to find data would be looking through a  video for it.

Thank you. I do not have excel programing as it would be seen as my way of changing the #s if there is a problem like the scatered timing -.5 thru out the timing table AND I dont need excell but just for 1 thing. But I think you idea is solid and sound advise.