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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2018, 04:46:14 PM »
  my same lifter block gaskets have been off and on my bike at least a half dozen times. Never had one leak.
I just make sure they come off cleanly and they didn't stick or tear when I pull the lifter block up. I make sure the gasket surface is clean and dry and no oil is on the gasket when re-assembling them. Most times the gasket will stick to the bottom of the lifter block and they come off clean. Call me a cheap ass...because I got new gaskets and O-rings sitting on the shelf. If the old ones pass my inspection...I'll re-use them again on my personal bike. Hell...I bet my p/rod tubes have been off a dozen times...and I'm still using the same O-rings.
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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2018, 07:02:09 PM »
Sure, but Ray, unlike many of us, you love tearing your engine apart. I think you get a cheap thrill out of an oil leak!
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2018, 07:12:09 PM »
Sure, but Ray, unlike many of us, you love tearing your engine apart. I think you get a cheap thrill out of an oil leak!
  I don't mind doing the wrenching when it's needed.
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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2018, 10:17:22 PM »
  my same lifter block gaskets have been off and on my bike at least a half dozen times. Never had one leak.
I just make sure they come off cleanly and they didn't stick or tear when I pull the lifter block up. I make sure the gasket surface is clean and dry and no oil is on the gasket when re-assembling them. Most times the gasket will stick to the bottom of the lifter block and they come off clean. Call me a cheap ass...because I got new gaskets and O-rings sitting on the shelf. If the old ones pass my inspection...I'll re-use them again on my personal bike. Hell...I bet my p/rod tubes have been off a dozen times...and I'm still using the same O-rings.
  Ridgerunner...I got your pm.  :up:
 

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low miles - I re-use  :up:

I'm also suspicious of several sets of lifters in so few miles - might need to dig deeper

and like rigid said, if cams come out I'd do inner bearings with SE replacements or equivalent
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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2018, 05:09:39 AM »
  I told the OP in a pm yesterday that I would highly suggest for him to pull the old lifters apart that he just took out of the bike. I myself would have to take them apart to see if there is any debris in them. I also told him that it doesn't seem right to me that a new set of lifters would go bad as quick as they did, and there might be more to his situation than meets the eye. I suggested for him to cut his oil filter open too...and see what the media looks like.
  Is it possible that the lifters the dealership put in his bike are that poor in quality...sure...but I would be surprised that they are that sub par and they couldn't go 3,000 miles. I do hope for his sake that the old lifters are that bad in quality and there is no other problem.

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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2018, 06:15:59 AM »
Those lifter block gaskets are the only ones on the bike I would consider reusing if they come off in one piece. It always best to use new ones, sure,  but If you eye says try, go for it.  Chances are they will hold.

I'm just being redundant here but whats one more opinion worth, I'm sure your lifters are just the victims, not the cause.  Gotta find the cause.  I always look inside the breather gear. Debris also collects there and if I see some there then I know what I have to do.  PITA, yes but split cases and clean/flush everything.  That's the only way to get peace of mind, IMHO.

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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 07:29:01 AM »
 the OP pm'd me this morning and he said he pulled the old lifters apart.
I told him in a pm yesterday how to pull them completely apart...even how to get the nose piece off the lifter valve body so he could check inside and make sure there was no debris around the check ball and spring. He had great news this morning and he said he found nothing inside any of the old lifters...except oil. I told him on his next oil change I would cut his oil filter open and take a peek at the media...just for peace of mind.
  His plan is to go ahead and proceed with a new set of Larry's lifters.

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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2018, 09:00:40 AM »
Larry's lifters  :up:
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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2018, 09:18:38 AM »
I'm a frugal person as well and hate spending $'s on stuff that is not needed.  My suggestion would be to go ahead and buy the gaskets and o rings and return what is not needed.  I always say that I'm going to return them but most of the time end up keeping the items for the next time - which seldom comes,,, :embarrassed:
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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2018, 03:19:44 PM »
Finished up last evening with installing the new lifters. I had changed oil prior to starting this lifter change and still had old oil filter draining over on the drain pan. So I cut it open (what a mess that made) to see what it looked like inside. Using a magnet I couldnt see anything to cause concern at all. Some stuff on the media but no metal that I could find.
Took the bike out today to check it out and rode about 30 miles out and 30 back. The Larry's lifters are very quiet and the bike sounds so much better. I don't know if its just the lifters or the rocker locker bushings or a combination of both but it made me one happy Roadking owner.
One thing I noticed also was how quick it starts now. The bike always had that umph umph before it fired as though the battery was bad. But now starts right away.
Thanks all for your help and advice and Ray for your help on the lifter disassembly. Also thanks to whoever said to clean out the bolt holes. That probably saved me from a bad day. :dgust:

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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2018, 04:11:07 PM »
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that's great to hear!     :chop:

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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2018, 06:07:17 AM »
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Re: Gaskets for lifter swap
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2018, 06:45:06 AM »
Another success story.  :up: Reading these posts really make my day.  I read HTT over morning coffee and I am always inspired.  Great group here.
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