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2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« on: October 10, 2018, 05:11:48 AM »
Andrews 64G sticks
rockers 1.725 intake 1.65 exhaust
JW Performance 110 heads 2.15int 1.7exh
ported intake, Morel lifters, Smith Bros p-rods
R&R cam plate, Dan Thayer oil pump
R&R flywheels, Diamond pistons coated skirts
S&S cases ssw, Hyperformance iron jugs
Triple X G carb
Baker King Kong clutch
RB Racing prostock Spyder 2" primaries

Gonna put some miles on her then go back for the final tune and numbers.
Thanks to Jon Miller Racing for the killer tuning, JC Walker(TorquePimp) for the portwork, Randy Torgeson for the bottom end set up and the awesome iron cylinders.





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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 06:52:05 AM »
Man, I read that first and thought it said 113 and thought WOW,  Still very nice at any rate.  And we need some pics of your assistant mechanic :teeth:
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 08:24:35 AM »
    That sure looks great. Good job to all.

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2018, 09:03:18 AM »
I wouldn't have thought that Andrews would pull so well down low. But I guess with the right stuff around it, it sure does. I like it.    :up:
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2018, 09:17:51 AM »
I was surprised also...
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 10:31:37 AM »
 that will make you smile when you twist on the wick!  :up:
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 11:06:34 AM »
Can't wait to get some miles on her and get the final numbers!
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2018, 03:42:48 PM »
Good work, I wonder how a prepped supper D like a Zippers D2 would work,

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2018, 05:58:53 PM »
Great job on the build & tune.  Congrats to all.. :up:

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 07:09:21 AM »
Big surprise is how soon and fast the torque comes in. Anybody have a theory as to why? Head flow? The higher ratio rockers on the intakes? I used to have almost unlimited dyno time... Time to test these kinds of things. Theories?
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2018, 07:55:39 AM »
  my guess would be that the heads had good low lift and mid lift flow numbers.   :nix:
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 11:11:28 AM »
Good work, I wonder how a prepped supper D like a Zippers D2 would work,

In a bagger, on the street, it would be crap.
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2018, 11:14:21 AM »
Big surprise is how soon and fast the torque comes in. Anybody have a theory as to why? Head flow? The higher ratio rockers on the intakes? I used to have almost unlimited dyno time... Time to test these kinds of things. Theories?

Having done this on the dyno a few times, apple to apples, only change made was the rocker arm ratio, the higher ratio rockers shifted the torque 'bubble' to the left of the sheet. Have only done this comparison twice. Both times had the same results.

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2018, 04:26:49 PM »
 :up: :up: Awesome results. Happy for you!
Just curious if you have a pic of the baffle in that pipe.

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2018, 05:27:31 PM »
This is the only pic I have of the baffle
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2018, 06:09:45 PM »
 :up: I bet there's a few ponies being left behind with the small opening. Although it may be what your pile driving tq comes from.
Either way, i bet it is a blast to ride.

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2018, 09:39:28 PM »
Big surprise is how soon and fast the torque comes in. Anybody have a theory as to why? Head flow? The higher ratio rockers on the intakes? I used to have almost unlimited dyno time... Time to test these kinds of things. Theories?

Having done this on the dyno a few times, apple to apples, only change made was the rocker arm ratio, the higher ratio rockers shifted the torque 'bubble' to the left of the sheet. Have only done this comparison twice. Both times had the same results.

I have a 131 torque curve look like mine I run a D carb it made 162hp. My intake valve was 2.1 exh 1.715 a redshift 625 with 1.745 rocker. Compression 11.57 cranking comp was 210. psi. 2 into 2 drag pipes 2 1/8"" 2 1/4"  21/2"   33" long.
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2018, 09:12:43 AM »
I'm really happy with these results. I was on the fence about building a high bourse bell ringer and building a stump pulling torque build. We were trying out Redshift 627's with 1.725rr's in my 124 when Torquepimp wanted to throw an old pro pipe on it. We new it would come down the horsepower, but the torque was brutal... And a lot of fun. Horsepower dropped to 116 but torque went up to 145 with 120 of it at 2000rpm. I loved the brutal torque, but wasn't happy when it nosed over at 5,100rpm.
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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2018, 08:15:41 AM »
Looks like you got the best of both world now.  :up:
Tires are going to be a problem though.  :smiled:

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Re: 2002, 131", FLHT, Andrews 64G, RB Racing
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2018, 05:10:44 PM »
I'm really happy with these results. I was on the fence about building a high bourse bell ringer and building a stump pulling torque build. We were trying out Redshift 627's with 1.725rr's in my 124 when Torquepimp wanted to throw an old pro pipe on it. We new it would come down the horsepower, but the torque was brutal... And a lot of fun. Horsepower dropped to 116 but torque went up to 145 with 120 of it at 2000rpm. I loved the brutal torque, but wasn't happy when it nosed over at 5,100rpm.
Yea that reminds me of the first time I drove a lc 124 all I could think is damn is this it lol . I could have put up with it if it did not drip oil out of the breather every time I killed it . I finally just was happy to spend some more money to have a motor that would make hp and not lay over . Not use oil is nice to lol