SCREAMIN EAGLE ADJUSTABLE ROCKER ARM KITS

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N-gin

Quote from: kristian on March 13, 2018, 08:53:24 PM
old news but new to the hd club, this, or similar should have been there from the beginning.

I said the same thing when I first saw the rocker arm and many others as well.

I'm not here cause of a path before me, Im here cause of the burnout left behind

BVHOG

Unfortunately dealer says not yet available, not sure when.
If you don't have a sense of humor you probably have no sense at all.

sfmichael

I like the idea. As others have stated I thought it should have been there at the start

Loving all this M8 development

Another year or two and I'll get a little more serious about buying one
Colorado Springs, CO.


jsachs1

The swivel adjuster foot looks just like the ones Fueling used on his 4 valve heads. He had 2 upgrades over the ones used in the picture.  :nix:
John

hdbikedoc

Japanese has had this set up for years makes sense  The valves must open and close the same 
even the overhead cam models can be equalled with bucket shims  of different size so you get equal opening
EPA has nothing to do with it   the bottom line is cost
do you really think you could match stem protrusion  without spending a few hours fiddling try to charge that to a customer     :emoGroan:    I vote great to see
Keep your feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked

alstar2

would it be better if you had adjustable push rods,so you could loosen the push rod ,then zero out the rocker arm & then adjust the push rod.
is that 2 turns or 3?

build it

Get the principles down first, they'll never change.

PoorUB

Quote from: alstar2 on May 13, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
would it be better if you had adjustable push rods,so you could loosen the push rod ,then zero out the rocker arm & then adjust the push rod.
is that 2 turns or 3?

??
The hydraulic lifter will keep one valve at zero lash. You just need to adjust the one valve to near zero clearance. I would imagine you turn the screw int until it just touched the valve stem and lock it down. No need for feeler gauges.
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

happyman

Quote from: sfmichael on March 25, 2018, 07:22:15 PM
I like the idea. As others have stated I thought it should have been there at the start

Loving all this M8 development

Another year or two and I'll get a little more serious about buying one
By then   HD will put out another wonderful product!

rbabos

Quote from: PoorUB on May 13, 2018, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: alstar2 on May 13, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
would it be better if you had adjustable push rods,so you could loosen the push rod ,then zero out the rocker arm & then adjust the push rod.
is that 2 turns or 3?

??
The hydraulic lifter will keep one valve at zero lash. You just need to adjust the one valve to near zero clearance. I would imagine you turn the screw int until it just touched the valve stem and lock it down. No need for feeler gauges.
Correct.
Ron

farmall

Quote from: HD Street Performance on March 13, 2018, 01:06:45 PM
EPA may be one reason these are not oem
They've no effect on emissions and if the "noise excuse" made sense Sportsters wouldn't have four gear drive cams. That old EPA wives tale is used to excuse MoCo foulups but I defy anyone anywhere to produce DATA to back it up.  HD are infamously cheap down the decades so if they can save small change by reducing parts count or cheapening execution, they do. That's one reason for the massive aftermarket.

Matching stem protrusion to adjust valves is despicably stupid and whoever inflicted it on the owner community knew what they were doing. Cutting valve seats to do what thoroughly proven adjusters do? Wow. My Suzuki GS 750 four valver had adjusters in the 1980s (and almost never needed adjusting).


BVHOG

Recieved my two "adjustable rocker arm kits" of the SE adjustable rockers today, you would assume as did the parts guy that a kit meant two of them.  Turns out you need four kits for one motor, some "kit"
If you don't have a sense of humor you probably have no sense at all.

rbabos

Quote from: BVHOG on May 20, 2018, 06:56:45 AM
Recieved my two "adjustable rocker arm kits" of the SE adjustable rockers today, you would assume as did the parts guy that a kit meant two of them.  Turns out you need four kits for one motor, some "kit"
So, one should ask for a set of 4 instead when ordering ? Stupid marketing terminology for sure.
Ron

PoorUB

What kind of money? I assume if you thought you were ordering enough for one engine they must be on the spendy side. :idunno:
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

kd

May 20, 2018, 08:58:31 PM #41 Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 09:05:44 PM by kd
They are probably called a "kit" because each one individually is an assortment of 3 pieces that when assembled makes a "unit". (Did they come assembled?)  You likely only get one "unit / kit" because they are meant to correct a valve in the bank of 2 that has improper protrusion.  Cheaper than pulling the head and performing a high tech valve job to even them up.  :nix:

If you have 1 valve that needs repair, you do it and replace the rocker with the SE adjustable version. The MOCO regularly comes out with fixes for their screw ups and they call them SE parts to divert attention from calling it a recall. They know there is a problem and come out with a part to cure it, call it a performance upgrade, and we pay for the remedy again.
KD

happyman

Quote from: kd on May 20, 2018, 08:58:31 PM
They are probably called a "kit" because each one individually is an assortment of 3 pieces that when assembled makes a "unit". (Did they come assembled?)  You likely only get one "unit / kit" because they are meant to correct a valve in the bank of 2 that has improper protrusion.  Cheaper than pulling the head and performing a high tech valve job to even them up.  :nix:

If you have 1 valve that needs repair, you do it and replace the rocker with the SE adjustable version. The MOCO regularly comes out with fixes for their screw ups and they call them SE parts to divert attention from calling it a recall. They know there is a problem and come out with a part to cure it, call it a performance upgrade, and we pay for the remedy again.
does seem to be the case all too often  where the  label  SE is applied to a screw up  so the customer once again get the hosing .

rbabos

Quote from: happyman on May 21, 2018, 06:47:24 AM
Quote from: kd on May 20, 2018, 08:58:31 PM
They are probably called a "kit" because each one individually is an assortment of 3 pieces that when assembled makes a "unit". (Did they come assembled?)  You likely only get one "unit / kit" because they are meant to correct a valve in the bank of 2 that has improper protrusion.  Cheaper than pulling the head and performing a high tech valve job to even them up.  :nix:

If you have 1 valve that needs repair, you do it and replace the rocker with the SE adjustable version. The MOCO regularly comes out with fixes for their screw ups and they call them SE parts to divert attention from calling it a recall. They know there is a problem and come out with a part to cure it, call it a performance upgrade, and we pay for the remedy again.
does seem to be the case all too often  where the  label  SE is applied to a screw up  so the customer once again get the hosing .
Plus,  MoCo turns a profit while at it. How many SE comps were sold as retrofits to solve  the crappy first 07 comps? How many SE replacement comps were sold to replace the constant worn out units until oiling was introduced? But wait, there's more. New improved rocker arms will be flying off the shelves now. Me, I tired of the BS .

Ron

LuzRD

Quote from: PoorUB on May 20, 2018, 03:00:11 PM
What kind of money? I assume if you thought you were ordering enough for one engine they must be on the spendy side. :idunno:

MSRP is $55.95 and Surdyke lists them at $46.04 for each part number

BVHOG

Yup, price was the 55.95 per rocker so still not a terrible price.
If you don't have a sense of humor you probably have no sense at all.

Karl H.

Could you please take a picture of the unit and post it here?

Karl
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