Cam for Old Mans 117

[TN]

With the HD 117" kit at 9.9 - 1, using the TTS 150, what would the CCP be?

With .030 head gasket, pistons .004 in the hole front and rear it is 213f-213r the dyno graph won't impress you but real world riding is a pleasure. The dd7 I installed with it just adds to the pleasure.

Just Ride

[Barrett]

Advance it 4* and go with a 30T pulley..

[scott7d]

I absolutely loved the CR 575's in my previous 113. 120/125 with very early progressive torque. And enough top end should you choose to want or need it for whatever circumstance.

https://harleytechtalk.com/htt/index.php?topic=92979.msg1073223#msg1073223

[TN]

Guess I didn't post mine. I got exactly what I was looking for in going this route, just need a reliable engine to push this 1k lb pig around. I was satisfied with the 110 and 255 cams after mufflers and tune, and yes I ride aggressively at times.  I've had this bike since new 10/2008 and looks like I'll have it for years to come, lord willing.

Enjoy the ride

[Ohio HD]

Guess I didn't post mine. I got exactly what I was looking for in going this route, just need a reliable engine to push this 1k lb pig around. I was satisfied with the 110 and 255 cams after mufflers and tune, and yes I ride aggressively at times.  I've had this bike since new 10/2008 and looks like I'll have it for years to come, lord willing.

Enjoy the ride

Nothing wrong with that.     

[TN]

Took a few times for me to get it right, I think I have her cobbled together properly now.

117" SE kit, 58mm SE throttle body, TTS 150, 10.3 static, 205 CCP. 

[Ohio HD]

Looks good, power where you need / want it.

Just to help you spend some money, add some of Larry's head work later to that setup, and you'll see more at the very beginning and at the end of the sheet.

I bet it's a good ride now.   

[Don D]

He had his heads done by Sachs. Sachs does fine work.

[Ohio HD]

I didn't see where he had head work done, But thanks for point that out.

You assumed I was knocking John, I wasn't.

[Don D]

No assumptions, I knew you missed it, just pointing out Johns quality and no knock on Larry. All good.

[Wookie3011]

TTS-150  Has got my vote. 2016 117" with TTS150 128TQ 117HP. 110TQ 2000 RPM to Redline

[838]

We just did a 117" 10.2:1 with the s&s570. 190 ccp tuned 130/121 on 89 pump gas. Bike rolls on smooth and hits hard if you wack the throttle, great street manners and runs cool... We were also looking at tts-150 but held off because these are second hand, big valved, 96" heads and I wanted to be certain of valve to valve clearance... though Steve Cole (tts 150s developer) said there would "most likely" not be any issue. Didn't know about the 3103 cam at the time, or that might have gone in there instead.

[Don D]

We may be losing perspective. This is a 117" motor. The 96 heads can work fine. Why short cam the motor?  I have used the TTS-150 many times and it has its place. It has been my go to lately with our 107 kits. In a 117" motor 242 or thereabouts duration is still a mild cam. Not a fan of the added exhaust duration and in a 240 degree tight lobe center grind, 117" torque approaching 140 big and fat is a possibility also without PMS, pipe gets the billing here and needs to cooperate. Opening the back door too soon and too long sends work out the pipe and ends up with a screwed up the overlap cycle. I don't hate any cam grind but move toward grinds that don't bias the exhaust side with added duration. The twin cam and M8 have good ports relatively speaking and many of the pipes work well too.

[Ohio HD]

TTS-150  Has got my vote. 2016 117" with TTS150 128TQ 117HP. 110TQ 2000 RPM to Redline

They are a unique set of cams. Timing and duration are what's unique. That creates unusual CL values, but just works.

Way too many guys get caught up in the dyno sheet HP results for past 5,000 rpm. These can still give power past 5,000, but it's not where these cams are designed to work. And unless you're intent is to ride WFO all the time, or goal is to have the power but not really use it. Then other cams are better choices.

They work fine in larger motors. It all depends on what you'll use it for.  How heavy the bike is, gearing, etc.

[Tommy D]

TTS-150  Has got my vote. 2016 117" with TTS150 128TQ 117HP. 110TQ 2000 RPM to Redline

They are a unique set of cams. Timing and duration are what's unique. That creates unusual CL values, but just works.

Way too many guys get caught up in the dyno sheet HP results for past 5,000 rpm. These can still give power past 5,000, but it's not where these cams are designed to work. And unless you're intent is to ride WFO all the time, or goal is to have the power but not really use it. Then other cams are better choices.

They work fine in larger motors. It all depends on what you'll use it for.  How heavy the bike is, gearing, etc.

Cole did his brainiac work indeed in designing 👍🏼

I ran his 100 grind in a TC 107 & it was sneaky quick spooling up through the gears & not even knowing it

[TN]

When I first chose the TTS 150 cams to do this build a few vendors tried to steer me in another direction, I chose a guy to do my heads the first time and I got screwed. Still used them but had no confidence at all in his workmanship. Bought a new set of heads sent them to John told him what cams, only thing I said was "I want a set of 100k mile heads" So there is the two dyno sheets to compare. John impressed me not only with his work, his customer service is second to none.

In the real world riding I consider my ride perfect for me now, I don't drag race, never done a burnout on my own ride and I don't sit in the rocking chair racing with my dyno graph like some I know. With that being said lets go for a ride on some twisties and I'll stay on your 6 like glue, till I decide to pass you, then we'll talk.

I consider myself a parts changer and leave the rest up to the professionals, I've gained valuable info here and just like to share my real world experiences as I can.

Be Safe and Just Ride!

Just got back from a 3k+ ride in the Smokies so I'm all jacked up 

forgot to list my exhaust system, fullsac dx pipe, fullsac 2.25" baffles.

[Tommy D]

When I first chose the TTS 150 cams to do this build a few vendors tried to steer me in another direction, I chose a guy to do my heads the first time and I got screwed. Still used them but had no confidence at all in his workmanship. Bought a new set of heads sent them to John told him what cams, only thing I said was "I want a set of 100k mile heads" So there is the two dyno sheets to compare. John impressed me not only with his work, his customer service is second to none.

In the real world riding I consider my ride perfect for me now, I don't drag race, never done a burnout on my own ride and I don't sit in the rocking chair racing with my dyno graph like some I know. With that being said lets go for a ride on some twisties and I'll stay on your 6 like glue, till I decide to pass you, then we'll talk.

I consider myself a parts changer and leave the rest up to the professionals, I've gained valuable info here and just like to share my real world experiences as I can.

Be Safe and Just Ride!

Just got back from a 3k+ ride in the Smokies so I'm all jacked up 

forgot to list my exhaust system, fullsac dx pipe, fullsac 2.25" baffles.

Good post, TN 🍻