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A question about Dyna beads.

Started by Paniolo, May 25, 2019, 06:01:52 AM

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Paniolo

I hear about a lot of riders who use them instead of wheel weights.

How much goes in each tire?

Does the tire have to be dismounted? In other words, can it be done with the wheel on the bike, letting the air out, pushing in one side wall and dropping them in?

What are the downsides to Dyna Beads?

Thanks
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rigidthumper

Buddy of mine uses them, he measures an ounce by weight and pours them through the valve stem after removing the core. once in, replaces the core and refills the tire. I have no comment on effectiveness, as I always used wheel weights. He swears  by them.
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tomcat64

I know people that swear by them, the physics behind them make no sense to me, with all the little bumps, cracks, and bouncing around I just don't see how they stay put..

92flhtcu

They work, however, they are a pain in the butt and can be a mess upon dismounting when its time

Ride-On is a better alternative, several on here using it, and I have it in 4 bikes, been using for 6 years now
Need a bigger garage

Paniolo

Quote from: 92flhtcu on May 25, 2019, 06:12:51 AM
They work, however, they are a pain in the butt and can be a mess upon dismounting when its time

Ride-On is a better alternative, several on here using it, and I have it in 4 bikes, been using for 6 years now

Is that the liquid goop? I imagine that would be more of a nightmare than beads.
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fbn ent

FWIW.....I don't even like the beads anywhere even close to my shop. One somehow finds it's way to somewhere it doesn't belong and it can cause lots of damage. Probably just me though.
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Coyote

Quote from: rigidthumper on May 25, 2019, 06:06:35 AM
Buddy of mine uses them, he measures an ounce by weight and pours them through the valve stem after removing the core. once in, replaces the core and refills the tire. I have no comment on effectiveness, as I always used wheel weights. He swears  by them.

How many tires have you mounted that took more than an ounce? I've done a lot of tires and I'd guess more than 50% took more than an ounce. You have to use more beads than an ounce to balance them.  I just stick with weights. Beads are a PITA IMO.

92flhtcu

Paniolio- Yes, it is a gel type, it is not messy, www.ride-on.com, its not a nightmare in any way

make sure you put the dash in there, or I'm not responsible for what sites come up

This stuff is not like Slime, the only way it thins out is if the temp of tire gets over 400'F

But if you want to use beads, go ahead, however, use the Counter-Act brand, they do not disintegrate like Dyna beads are prone to
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Bikerscum


Quote from: Paniolo on May 25, 2019, 06:29:37 AM
Quote from: 92flhtcu on May 25, 2019, 06:12:51 AM
They work, however, they are a pain in the butt and can be a mess upon dismounting when its time

Ride-On is a better alternative, several on here using it, and I have it in 4 bikes, been using for 6 years now

Is that the liquid goop? I imagine that would be more of a nightmare than beads.

Big Ride On fan here too. Last rear tire had 3 nails through to the inside... never lost a pound of air.

It's not messy at all. Once in the tire it turns into a gel that coats the tire.  :up:

calif phil

I have a lot of customers that love their Dyna Beads. Yes you can install through the valve stem but its a PIA.   I have no problem installing them, I can even scoop them out of the old tire and put them in a new tire. They cause no damage to the inside of the tire or rim. I use Dyna Beads on custom wheels where  normal stick on weights look horrible.  Ride-On is also amazing.  I would recommend it.  I have not used the counteract products. 

TXChop

My fathers generation rode without balancing tires for decades. Never complained.

I balance every tire i mount with weights.
I have customers that specifically ask for dyna beads or ride on and haven't had any issues with it. only 1 front 18 wheel had beads in it. Customer complained of a vibration and i de-mounted, sucked out beads and remounted with weights and the complaint went away. Not sure if it was due to beads or not though.

I have had some of the new rear 180 bagger tires take way more than 1 oz of weights. 2-3-4+.

klammer76

#11
I was skeptical of the beads but gave them a try when my tire guy recommended them. I have used them on two sets now (Getting front done this week) and I have no complaints. No mess dismounting. He puts them in while mounting while in the bag. Don't think they are dyna bead brand. After reading this thread, I wouldn't mind trying ride-on for the sealing properties. I have chrome wheels that was reason he recommended the beads. Most of his customers are now using them.

Only downside I have had was once while checking tire pressure, bead apparently got stuck in the valve stem. Couldn't get it to stop leaking at the schrader. I had read of this happening. I was in Rapid City and had trailered out that year. Luckily, I had a compressor on board and blew out the valve and refilled. Never an issue again. I do tend to check pressure at the 3 & 9 o'clock area on the wheels now.

rbabos

Only three downsides.  Not having enough beads to work. Always make sure you have a tad more then needed. This can be confirmed with taping on a lead weight first to find out how much. Second is using too much soap when mounting a tire. If the beads get coated with soap, they are not free to roam and can clump up, actually causing imbalance issues. Third is always check tire pressure with valve at the bottom or you could get a bead stuck in the valve and need to blow it out with adding more air. I've found they work well but stopped using them due to soap happy tire installers and went back to stick ons.
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calgary56

Quote from: 92flhtcu on May 25, 2019, 06:12:51 AM
They work, however, they are a pain in the butt and can be a mess upon dismounting when its time

Ride-On is a better alternative, several on here using it, and I have it in 4 bikes, been using for 6 years now

I use Ride-On .... BUT, I have my tires balanced first, THEN have the Ride-On installed, as I'm more concerned about flat tires (having had 5 in the past) than I am about the looks of a wheel weight.
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86fxwg

I used to run them till the shop that mounts & balanced my tires took a pic of the inside of the tire & all the little balls of rubber & the inside wear from them! NOT for me anymore! I know that hardtail76 used to use them until I showed him the picture, wasn't long after that he bought a balancer!

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Breeze

I've been using Dyna Beads for years with zero problems and very even tire wear. My instructions say 1 oz. front/ 2 oz. rear. They are EZ to install. The Beads come with a small bottle & a piece of clear tubing that goes over the valve stem (you can rig your own from any bottle & tubing). The TRICK to getting them in EZ, is to put some kind of electric tool against the valve stem. Hair clippers, engraver, toy from wifes night stand, any thing that makes some small vibration. This makes the beads jump around in the tube and not clog. I  have reused them, but it's easier to just put new ones in. As for making a mess when changing tires, I told the indy that did my tire change about them, and be careful so they didn't make a mess on his shop floor. When he got the tire off, he dumped the beads out on the floor, and said  "tell me you can feel those under your shoes". I couldn't, way too small to slip on. But I wouldn't want them to get into anything that was being built.
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jrgreene1968

I've got them in my bike, just because the shop that mounts my tires pushes them. I'm on my 2nd set of tires with them. They seem to work good, tires are balanced good and wear even. Can't complain about the mess, since I don't mount my own tires

roadkingdresser

Been using the beads for yrs. now.Not 1 complaint. I know this has nothing to do with m/c, but i worked in a truck garage for yrs. and we used the balance beads in the tires. We started to put golf balls in the tires and the drivers were really impressed with the balance. And thousands of miles and never any damage. Can't imagine the beads doing any damage. Only downfall i've seen is you need to check the valve when you add or check the air pressure, a little spit will do it.
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road-dawgs1

I've used beads for years and switched to Ride-on last time. With the beads, very easy to put them in prior to seating the bead so you don't have to do it through the valve stem. Also very easy to reuse them if you wish. You can take a piece of paper and lay it inside the tire and roll the tire so the beads all roll onto the paper, carefully lift the paper out in a scoop fashion and put the beads into a container. Takes about 3 times using the paper to get all the beads out.
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wolf_59

I have a 18V cordless vacuum that has a attachment that allows me to just vacuum them out once I have one side of the tire off the rim and when installing them after tire installation I break the bead on one side and pour them in

black

They work great for spoke wheel just put them in the tube before installing the tube in tire I use 2 oz for a 16 inch wheel
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ThumperDeuce

I started using them when I couldn't keep the weights from flying off my wheels.  2 oz rear, 1 oz front.  They seem to work.
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Rusticwater

Quote from: ThumperDeuce on May 28, 2019, 07:29:15 AM
I started using them when I couldn't keep the weights from flying off my wheels.  2 oz rear, 1 oz front.  They seem to work.
Same here!  :up:
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