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1980 iron head wiring diagram.

Started by Crawler, July 10, 2019, 05:15:58 AM

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Crawler

anyone have a wiring diagram for an 1980 sportster. I have some sketchy turn signal/tail light wiring to trace and my service manual hasn't arrived yet. thanks in advance.

Burnout

Purple and Green are turn signals
Red is Stop
Blue is running lights.
They don't call me Ironhead Rick just because I'm "hard headed"

Crawler

July 10, 2019, 12:22:21 PM #2 Last Edit: July 10, 2019, 12:29:08 PM by Crawler
thanks Burnout. the previous owner spliced in a trailer wiring harness to control the brake lights and turn signals. the brake light works fine but just with the front brake and not the rear brake pedal and non of the signals work. I have some wire tracing to do. I'm hoping to have a service manual in a few days but i'd like to get tinkering.

Burnout

The rear brake light switch is wired in parallel to the front switch and gets power from an orange wire
They don't call me Ironhead Rick just because I'm "hard headed"

Crawler

So I was messing with the wiring last night. If I hold the signal button in on the right hand side I have front and rear signals with the head light in the off and on position on the ignition switch. On the left side I have no signals when holding the button it dose not matter if the ignition is turned to have the headlight on or off. with the ignition in headlight off position when I hit the left signal the head light blinks :emoGroan: guess I have my work cut out for me.  is it common on the old iron head to have to keep holding down the signal button for the turn signals?

Hossamania

Sounds like you have some errant grounds and probably a short or two going on.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.

Crawler

Hossamania. your probably right. The wiring is a mess with 30 years of splicing going on. once I get the manual I'm going to go over it wire by wire and fix the junk.


Burnout

Quote from: Crawler on July 11, 2019, 07:07:23 AM
So I was messing with the wiring last night. If I hold the signal button in on the right hand side I have front and rear signals with the head light in the off and on position on the ignition switch. On the left side I have no signals when holding the button it dose not matter if the ignition is turned to have the headlight on or off. with the ignition in headlight off position when I hit the left signal the head light blinks :emoGroan: guess I have my work cut out for me.  is it common on the old iron head to have to keep holding down the signal button for the turn signals?

Blue wire is headlight power from the breaker
That goes to the high beam switch and from there goes to the headlight on the Yellow and White wires
Should be no other connections to those wires except the high beam indicator light.
They don't call me Ironhead Rick just because I'm "hard headed"

rigidthumper

Old style turn signals used a car style flasher, that relied on push & hold to apply voltage to the bulbs. As the current ran through the bulbs, ( lamps on) the flasher would heat up, and break contact (bulbs off) until it cooled off enough to make contact again ( bulbs on). This resulted in the clicking sound from the flasher.
If the current draw is low, bulbs will either not blink, or blink at a slow rate.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

Crawler

rigidthumper thanks for letting me know about having to hold in the signal button. I do have a car style flasher in the head light bucket. I could here it clicking on and off. the blinkers that work are pretty slow.

Hossamania

Measure standing voltage at the battery, and running voltage. Make sure the basics are in good order.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take away everything you have.

Crawler

Hossamania  my standing voltage was 12.35  and my running voltage was 12.37 but when higher (13.48) as I rolled on the throttle.

rigidthumper

Generator systems barely break even at idle, do a decent job from 2000 up.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

Crawler

I managed to dig into the wiring this weekend. I cleaned out 40 years of poor splicing and managed to get the signals to work, tail light and head light all working good. Next up is the faulty brake hydraulic pressure switch.

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