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which 110 big bore kit to use

Started by Weyrider, December 31, 2019, 11:00:37 AM

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Weyrider

Back in August I wrote about going from 96" to either a 103, 107 or 110. I have made up my mind to go to a 110 BB kit. Now I see 3 choices, 1) SE 110 kit for $1195.95, 2) an S&S 4" Big bore Sidewinder kit for 1154.00, 3) Fuel Moto Extreme Duty big bore kit for $999.99. I have heard that S&S had a few problems with their kits, but does anyone have any confirmation on this? All the kits come with compression ratios of 10.5:1, so that wont be a problem there. Has anyone heard of any problems with either the Fuel Moto or SE kits?  Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.

TorQuePimp

Screaming eagle......hands down

Don't pay retail.....shop around

Lots of them out there very few failures I've done 30+ and zero

Doing heads to go with the cubes I hope

jsachs1

I've done 2 dozen or so sets of heads for 110" drop on kits this year. The majority of the customers are using the S&S kits. There have been NO reported problems with those kits. I haven't had any negative feedback from the few that are using the S. E. kits as well.
John

harpwrench

I did the SE kit at the beginning of this year, with headwork from JW Performance. I've put a little over 25k on it this season, runs pretty good and doesn't use any oil  :SM:

Don D


Brew61

I built my 110 back in the winter of 2017-18. I used the S&S kit and had Don at HD Street  Performance do my heads, been extremely happy with this build.

Bruce
2004 Road King, 110 with S&S 585 Easy Start Cams,HPI 55 mm Thr

98fxstc

Mate of mine here in Aus went for the S&S 110 kit
After a while developed an oil leak at the rear exhaust gasket which was initially thought to be a valve guide or valve stem seal.
Upon disassembly cylinders were scuffed and out of round.
Shop went back to S&S dealer and eventually a replacement kit was offered but the final decision was to take a refund on purchase price and go 107" with original cylinders.
May have been old stock   :nix:
Back on the road now and very much out of pocket.

dsvracer

i like and use S&S parts. made in America by Americans

Nutoy

I have used the hd cylinders 110 kit from fuel moto. with dark horse crank  and some heads from zippers  performance, red shift 577 cam jackpot xxx head pipe 58mm t.b. changed the stock mufflers with 2 1/4 baffles from full sack. T.Max ecm and had Josh at Sandy's Harley help with the tune and have 8k trouble free miles on it

Hillside Motorcycle

Quote from: Weyrider on December 31, 2019, 11:00:37 AM
Back in August I wrote about going from 96" to either a 103, 107 or 110. I have made up my mind to go to a 110 BB kit. Now I see 3 choices, 1) SE 110 kit for $1195.95, 2) an S&S 4" Big bore Sidewinder kit for 1154.00, 3) Fuel Moto Extreme Duty big bore kit for $999.99. I have heard that S&S had a few problems with their kits, but does anyone have any confirmation on this? All the kits come with compression ratios of 10.5:1, so that wont be a problem there. Has anyone heard of any problems with either the Fuel Moto or SE kits?  Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.

We use S&S 110" kits here.
Easy to have a reliable 130/130 from a well built 110".
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

tomcat64

I have the HD stage 5 kit, makes upper teens for both HP and TQ,, and I currently have nearly 25K miles on it. the bike has never missed a beat..

tommy g

Quote from: Nutoy on January 01, 2020, 05:55:05 AM
I have used the hd cylinders 110 kit from fuel moto. with dark horse crank  and some heads from zippers  performance, red shift 577 cam jackpot xxx head pipe 58mm t.b. changed the stock mufflers with 2 1/4 baffles from full sack. T.Max ecm and had Josh at Sandy's Harley help with the tune and have 8k trouble free miles on it
How do you like those 577s? I had a set in a 103 and tho ran very smooth I didnt have lots of power. My comp may have been too low. I still have the cams on the shelf and would like to use them for a future build.
09 FLSTC
85 FXEF

prodrag1320

as far as 110 kits go,S&S would be the only choice,that said they have all had their problems so in my opinion,a 107" (witch go for about 600.00 from most shops) if by far the best option

Buglet

   How are the Daytona cylinders holding up.

Ketch

Quote from: Weyrider on December 31, 2019, 11:00:37 AM
Back in August I wrote about going from 96" to either a 103, 107 or 110. I have made up my mind to go to a 110 BB kit. Now I see 3 choices, 1) SE 110 kit for $1195.95, 2) an S&S 4" Big bore Sidewinder kit for 1154.00, 3) Fuel Moto Extreme Duty big bore kit for $999.99. I have heard that S&S had a few problems with their kits, but does anyone have any confirmation on this? All the kits come with compression ratios of 10.5:1, so that wont be a problem there. Has anyone heard of any problems with either the Fuel Moto or SE kits?  Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.


So I thought long and hard with the same question. I ended up deciding on a 107" bore with stage 3 headwork, Tman 625 cam, AIM clutch and throttle body clean up all from Hillside Cycles. Currently running a Jackpot R/T 2-1. Work is being done as we speak and I can't wait to give it a rip come spring! Hoping to be around 125/125 with a direct link tune. Should be a good quick bike to blast around on and also be a great touring ride for the long hauls.

Nutoy

Tommy G I really like the cams the torque comes on smooth and it pulls hard right up to 6500, with peak torque at 4200 and the curve is almost flat. with stock compression they would bleed off too much,my motor is 10.9 to 1 with cranking compression at 215 psi.

TorQuePimp

Quote from: Ketch on January 03, 2020, 02:48:15 PM
Quote from: Weyrider on December 31, 2019, 11:00:37 AM
Back in August I wrote about going from 96" to either a 103, 107 or 110. I have made up my mind to go to a 110 BB kit. Now I see 3 choices, 1) SE 110 kit for $1195.95, 2) an S&S 4" Big bore Sidewinder kit for 1154.00, 3) Fuel Moto Extreme Duty big bore kit for $999.99. I have heard that S&S had a few problems with their kits, but does anyone have any confirmation on this? All the kits come with compression ratios of 10.5:1, so that wont be a problem there. Has anyone heard of any problems with either the Fuel Moto or SE kits?  Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.


So I thought long and hard with the same question. I ended up deciding on a 107" bore with stage 3 headwork, Tman 625 cam, AIM clutch and throttle body clean up all from Hillside Cycles. Currently running a Jackpot R/T 2-1. Work is being done as we speak and I can't wait to give it a rip come spring! Hoping to be around 125/125 with a direct link tune. Should be a good quick bike to blast around on and also be a great touring ride for the long hauls.
Regardless of who does the heads with that combination of parts you'll need a 55/58 TB to get anywhere close to 125 square

tommy g

Quote from: Nutoy on January 03, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
Tommy G I really like the cams the torque comes on smooth and it pulls hard right up to 6500, with peak torque at 4200 and the curve is almost flat. with stock compression they would bleed off too much,my motor is 10.9 to 1 with cranking compression at 215 psi.
Thanks for the reply, I was at 10:1 and that prolly wasnt enough, the next time it will be upped considerably. It was the smoothest running motor I ever had tho.
09 FLSTC
85 FXEF

Nutoy

I agree with Torquepimp I have a 58mm tb on it, tried a 64mm that made more power but the drivability was not quite as good so went back to the 58. the motor made 132hp and 128 torque with the 64 and about 4 hp less and 5 foot pounds more with the 58mm.

Deye76

I'll take "drivability" over 4 hp any day, for a street bike. 
East Tenn.<br /> 2020 Lowrider S Touring, 2014 CVO RK,  1992 FXRP

98fxstc

Quote from: Nutoy on January 03, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
Tommy G I really like the cams the torque comes on smooth and it pulls hard right up to 6500, with peak torque at 4200 and the curve is almost flat. with stock compression they would bleed off too much,my motor is 10.9 to 1 with cranking compression at 215 psi.

would like to see the chart for this one if you have it

Nutoy

January 05, 2020, 08:22:03 AM #21 Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 08:29:10 AM by Nutoy
 [attach=1,msg1328940]  this was with the stock 50 mm T.B. picked up about 5 hp from 4500 on up the torque did not change. the weather was total crap that day temp was like 94 degrees and high humidity.

98fxstc

so 50mm TB gave you 123 hp and 127 ft.lb
    58mm TB gave you 128 hp and 133 ft.lb
    64mm TB gave you 132 hp and 128 ft.lb
all STD ?

Thanks

apologies to the OP for the hijack

Nutoy