I love my new Baker DD6, But.....

[ClassicRider2002]

aceman2101~

What is the intake close angle of the Wild Things 546g?

Regards,

"Classic"

[tarheelrdr]

[Yes, I have the dd6 and yes -you can use the same chain and tensioner that came with the baker unit.


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Roadglide,it has a cv-51 carb.
tarheel,do you have the baker dd6 also,if so,were you able to use the same primary chain and tensioner when you dropped to the 27 tooth?


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[Jeffd]

aceman2101~

What is the intake close angle of the Wild Things 546g?

Regards,

"Classic"

It has a 59* intake close.  I know Ace does not have CR's and his ccp is like 180 if I remember right.

[aceman2101]

Wow,I got my bike back.  Put the stock 25 tooth comp sprocket back in today and it feels like a different bike. The torque and power at the lower gears is much better than with the 28 tooth. At 80 mph in 6th gear im turning 3200rpm,which is a reduction of approx 200rpm over stock. Also it did not make first gear unusable,but it does feel lower than stock.  I would not recommend the dd6 with the 28 tooth comp sprocket.       Many thanks to Madjack for the use of his tools and his knowledge.      Also, Jean let me know when you get that firebreathing 103 broken in ,lol

[bulldog]

Did you only replace the 28 tooth comp sprocket and was there enough adjustment to take up the slack in the chain?

[madjack]

Ace , also had to put the stock size chain back in. the baker chain was way to big. Ace glad this was the solution, an your happy. I'll keep you informed as to the results. After some tuning this could be a sweet 103. Gene

[HotRock]

Something just don't add up.    If you put the stock 25 tooth compensator sproket in that means the primary gearing is the same as stock, right?   Then the Baker DD6 sixth gear is direct.......1 to 1, right.   Then in sixth gear the final gearing will be IDENTICAL to fift gear in the HD 5 speed......1 to 1 ratio.    So how does it turn any less rpm.   

[Kleetus]

Something just don't add up.    If you put the stock 25 tooth compensator sproket in that means the primary gearing is the same as stock, right?   Then the Baker DD6 sixth gear is direct.......1 to 1, right.   Then in sixth gear the final gearing will be IDENTICAL to fift gear in the HD 5 speed......1 to 1 ratio.    So how does it turn any less rpm.   

[Admiral Akbar]

Yeah,

But he got a granny gear... 11.9 to 1 unstead of 10.3 

Max

[madjack]

Well gents, let me tell you. I watched him drive down my long driveway, out into the street. the bike by far doesn't have a granny gearfor first.

When he wanted to change the sprokets over, I to thought , he would end up with a useless first gear, but I was wrong. I have rode the bike before, I installed the DD6, the 117 was pretty torqey. This is what he wanted back. I'm surprized just how well first gear runs out,

Ace isn't one for 3k hole shots, so he should fair just fine. On the other hand, If he did decide to launch to hard, I'll probly be converting him over to 630 chain. LOL  Gene

[HotRock]

Could it be possible that he has the optional Baker close ratio gear set which gives a 2.45 first gear?   However, that still doesn't effect the 6th gear final overall ratio which will be 3.15 with the 25 tooth compensator sproket.   

[aceman2101]

HotRock,yes I agree with you that 1/1 should be 1/1,  I was wondering if the speedodemeter would have to be re-calibrated with the baker recal unit I have. However the wife gave me the thumbs up when she hit 70 mph,and the speedodemeter was stll spot on. So all I know is that I was going 80 and turning 3200 rpms. I will confirm this on the next ride. I like it much better. If any more details come to lite,I will let everyone know.

[HotRock]

Good question.   I know that the speedometer has to be recalibrated if you used the 28 t comp sproket.    However going back to stock primary gearing    I checked and reset mine using a GPS unit.

[aceman2101]

good idea on the gps,I have one so I will check speed with that. Heck who knows maybe the wife thought I said 60mph

[HotRock]

Sometimes speedometers are off by a few mph and usually they are fast.    I think there is a law that says they cannot be off and show slow so they are intentionally left for the faster margin of error.   GPS should put you right on.    It would be helpful if you let a passenger check your speed vs. the GPS.   It's a PITA to keep an eye on the road, watch the speeometer, watch the GPS, and adjust the calibrator thing.      I used to fix two-way radios for the Georgia State Patrol and all the speedometers came from the factory and said on the speedometer "Calibrated Police".   But that was a long time ago.....

[bulldog]

Hey Ace,how is the 25 tooth sprocket working and do you have any regrets? Did the speedometer have to be calibrated?

[Jeffd]

Hey Ace,how is the 25 tooth sprocket working and do you have any regrets? Did the speedometer have to be calibrated?

I rode with him today and he said he was happy with it. 

[crazybastid83]

I guess I am te only one who likes the stock HD 5 speed.

[Kleetus]

I guess I am te only one who likes the stock HD 5 speed.

[7hogs]

Can someone post the ratios stock sprocket vs. bakers sprocket?

Thanks,

[7hogs]

If possible if I could get some more info on how you use lose power using the DD6 over stock tranny that would be great!

[HotRock]

You will not lose any power.   The baker tranny gears are different from stock but compensated for by using a 28 tooth compensator sprocket.    That brings overall ratios in gears 1-5 back very close to the stock  HD 5 speed.   One exception might be if you used the close ratio baker which has a taller first gear.  Top three gears in the baker are helical for quieter operation and therefore not as efficient as spur gears in the stock trans.   But that would not be enough to feel in the seat of the pants.   As Ace is now running a 25/36 primary, it means his  final 6th  gear ratio is 3.15 which is same as 5th gear in the stock 5 speed HD.   However his first five with the Baker now is much lower than the stock HD tranny.   IMO the 1st gear with that arrangement would make it almost useless in a hurried start from stop, you would wind up and shift much too quick.   Exception might be with a fully loaded bagger and perhaps pulling a cargo trailer it would be great to get it roling.

[7hogs]

My bike flys through the gears and before I know it I am in 6th gear and for me it seems that first gear need to be taller.

[FLTRI]

If possible if I could get some more info on how you use lose power using the DD6 over stock tranny that would be great!

Consider this:
1) 1 more gear to turn in 90wt gear oil which inceases parasitic drag.
2) Helical cut gears produce side load which increases parasitic drag.
3) 6 spds weigh more than 5 spds. (adds to overall bike weight)
Bob

[05FLHTC]

When I was looking into adding a 6 speed tranny to my 2005 bagger with my now 3.37 final gear ratio, there was only one 6 speed gear sets that appealed to me, based on the 1st through 6th gear ratio's that you can view on the Bigboyz gear ratio calculator http://www.bigboyzheadporting.com/Gearratio.htm.

The SE OD6 gear set will run the final 6th gear ratio at 3.0. That would be all I really would like is another gear to drop my cruising rpm's down at 70mph while maintaining the first 1~5 ratio's the same.


IMO the 2.9 & lower final 6th gear ratio's do not appear to be as useful, unless you are running at 80mph & above constantly...I'll go back to the 3.15 final if needed...I just can not justify the cost of the 6 speed just my humble opinion