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TC88 /S&S510 cam ?

Started by yobtaf103, March 28, 2020, 12:15:38 PM

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yobtaf103

Will it work as a bolt in, 2002 carbed ?

Ohio HD


yobtaf103

Ah so yes, thanks for that
Just picked up a garage queen 02, got a good deal on a 510G kit


Hillside Motorcycle

It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

tbird

509 works better in a stock engine!

838

Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on March 30, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.

He got a good deal on the gear drive cam set. If you saved money there spend some to have a machinist bore your cylinders to 98". That'll get you more compression and a better performing .510.

kd

They do sound hot at idle.  :wink:
KD

Hillside Motorcycle

Quote from: 838 on March 30, 2020, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on March 30, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.

He got a good deal on the gear drive cam set. If you saved money there spend some to have a machinist bore your cylinders to 98". That'll get you more compression and a better performing .510.

:up: :up: :up:
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

autoworker

510 cams work better with the early model twin cam bikes and their gearing.
It must be true,I read it on the internet.

Hillside Motorcycle

A MUCH better pug/play choice in an 88" is an Andrews 21.
Any dyno, any day.
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

Hendogg

I ran 510G's an a stock 88 for a long time and  it went pretty good after 3000 rpm.
Did the heads and went to a 98" , went with 570G's and it doing 111hp / 123 torq
570 has same timing as 510 but the 570 lift, instead of the 585's

jls 64

Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on April 02, 2020, 04:30:04 AM
A MUCH better pug/play choice in an 88" is an Andrews 21.
Any dyno, any day.


:agree: clear.
js

sfmichael

Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on March 30, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.

:agree:   one look at the specs and anyone can see that...too much duration without enough cubes / squeeze in an otherwise stock engine

              she's gonna be lazy   :crash:
Colorado Springs, CO.

fidel

years ago I got Andrews 26 on a 2000 road king love it

Hillside Motorcycle

Have a local client that has a 2006 Dyna.
Ran the .510's for years, with a Thunderheader.
Beautiful sleek bike.
Finally made the move to a 98"/our Stage II Heads, and we bored his t/body to 50mm, then tuned it.
The before/after dyno chart is almost unbelieveable.
He easily waxes 110"s as he has told us. :smile:
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

kink04fxd

Quote from: fidel on April 03, 2020, 10:13:38 PM
years ago I got Andrews 26 on a 2000 road king love it
This^^^. Got 26s in my 88ci FLHT and they work great. Will be better when I go 95ci
2000 FLHTCI (now carb)<br />1982 FLH

Hillside Motorcycle

Quote from: kink04fxd on April 04, 2020, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: fidel on April 03, 2020, 10:13:38 PM
years ago I got Andrews 26 on a 2000 road king love it
This^^^. Got 26s in my 88ci FLHT and they work great. Will be better when I go 95ci

98" and set the squeeze at 9.7 cr.
We do that build here.
Snappy low-mid combo.
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

yobtaf103

Quote from: 838 on March 30, 2020, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on March 30, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.

He got a good deal on the gear drive cam set. If you saved money there spend some to have a machinist bore your cylinders to 98". That'll get you more compression and a better performing .510.
Thanks , going 95/ 98" a possibility would like to stick with the CV & manage without comp releases
so any build suggestions pistons /carb tweaks ?

Boe Cole

Had the 510G's in an 06 RG punched out to 95 with HD SE Heads and exhaust and a/c.  Ran great but liked rpm's.  Wound up a bunch quicker than my 103.  Only reason i got rid of the bike was to get an 11 RGU with ABS.
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

Hillside Motorcycle

Quote from: yobtaf103 on April 26, 2020, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: 838 on March 30, 2020, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on March 30, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.

He got a good deal on the gear drive cam set. If you saved money there spend some to have a machinist bore your cylinders to 98". That'll get you more compression and a better performing .510.
Thanks , going 95/ 98" a possibility would like to stick with the CV & manage without comp releases
so any build suggestions pistons /carb tweaks ?

CV carb will be absolutely fine.
An adjustable igntion will help as well.
We have dedicated 98" kits #HMM-0980.
Flat top pistons, or 8.5cc domes.
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

Johnwesley

Quote from: yobtaf103 on April 26, 2020, 04:42:55 PM
Thanks , going 95/ 98" a possibility would like to stick with the CV & manage without comp releases
so any build suggestions pistons /carb tweaks ?

I'm running one with 10:1. I had compression releases put in even though the machine shop said I wouldn't need them. They were right, so far I haven't had to have them. I'm right on what the bigboyz say ccp should be at 10:1 as well. All this said I haven't had it out in the 100+ degree heat touring. At that point they may be handy. I figure might as well have them and not need them than the other way around. Makes for a fun all-around bike.
05 FXD superglide,98",10.6,S&S585, HPI 55/58,
WFO Larry's cnc2+, supermeg,120hp

yobtaf103

May 31, 2020, 02:45:48 AM #21 Last Edit: May 31, 2020, 02:51:26 AM by yobtaf103
Quote from: yobtaf103 on April 26, 2020, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: 838 on March 30, 2020, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: Hillside Motorcycle on March 30, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
It'll feel sluggish off the bottom..............unless the compression is brought up to meet the cam, and/or cubic inch increase as well.

He got a good deal on the gear drive cam set. If you saved money there spend some to have a machinist bore your cylinders to 98". That'll get you more compression and a better performing .510.
Thanks , going 95/ 98" a possibility would like to stick with the CV & manage without comp releases
so any build suggestions pistons /carb tweaks ?
Progress gone 95" SE cast flat tops/heads cleaned up 82cc 185ccp, 9.7 comp/calcs

Hilly13

Softail? That will work ok tuned up  :up:
Just because its said don't make it so