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Started by les, March 31, 2020, 05:52:16 AM

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les

After years of irritation with belt tension, I took the 30 minutes to replaced my 2011 rear axle with the updated 2020 rear axle.  Much better!  No more problems when you get the belt just right, only to find that it mysteriously moves when doing the final torque.  I tightened to 120 ft-lbs.

Part # 43000207

Boe Cole

Quote from: les on March 31, 2020, 05:52:16 AM
After years of irritation with belt tension, I took the 30 minutes to replaced my 2011 rear axle with the updated 2020 rear axle.  Much better!  No more problems when you get the belt just right, only to find that it mysteriously moves when doing the final torque.  I tightened to 120 ft-lbs.

Part # 43000207

I may do the same - how much was it?  Did you only have to get the axle to accomplish the upgrade or did you have get additional parts?
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

les

I can't remember what I paid for it, but I just did a quick check and it was around $65.  You can probably get it for cheaper by looking around.  That's all I bought was that part number.  I reused the nut and the retaining clip.

Boe Cole

Thank you - that and the BigBear axle lock and my troubles in that area may be in my rear view mirror.....
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

ecir50

did you compare the two, IIRC only the torque specs and the ramp has changed.

PoorUB

If you buy the new axle, don't forget to get the cam washer for the RH side too.
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

FSG


road-dawgs1

Quote from: FSG on March 31, 2020, 05:31:04 PM
maybe the Rear Axle Kit 94100083

Interesting. The pn# doesn't yet come up on the P&A site, nor Surdyke or other online dealers. And don't google "Harley 94100083," trust me. The first result that came up was something about "big luscious European boobs."
'24 FLTRX Sharkskin blue

02roadcling

Quote from: road-dawgs1 on March 31, 2020, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: FSG on March 31, 2020, 05:31:04 PM
maybe the Rear Axle Kit 94100083

Interesting. The pn# doesn't yet come up on the P&A site, nor Surdyke or other online dealers. And don't google "Harley 94100083," trust me. The first result that came up was something about "big luscious European boobs."

It works!  :baby:

   cling  :koolaid3:
02roadcling
NW corner of Washington

road-dawgs1

Quote from: 02roadcling on March 31, 2020, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: road-dawgs1 on March 31, 2020, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: FSG on March 31, 2020, 05:31:04 PM
maybe the Rear Axle Kit 94100083

Interesting. The pn# doesn't yet come up on the P&A site, nor Surdyke or other online dealers. And don't google "Harley 94100083," trust me. The first result that came up was something about "big luscious European boobs."

It works!  :baby:

   cling  :koolaid3:

Did ya happen to open the link? Mama sitting in the easy chair next to me so I ain't gonna get whacked  :slap:
'24 FLTRX Sharkskin blue

02roadcling

Nope, it was all foreign and can't be trusted like Pornhub can.  :embarrassed:
I'm luckier than most as far as the wife goes.  :SM:

   cling
02roadcling
NW corner of Washington

PoorUB

I opened the link, got nothing interesting. I think it was advertising for a video for sale. Not even one good picture.
I am an adult?? When did that happen, and how do I make it stop?!

FSG

Quoteand can't be trusted like Pornhub can.

:hyst:

les

Quote from: ecir50 on March 31, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
did you compare the two, IIRC only the torque specs and the ramp has changed.

Yes, it's all about the ramps.  Side by side comparison.

HogMike

Quote from: les on April 01, 2020, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: ecir50 on March 31, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
did you compare the two, IIRC only the torque specs and the ramp has changed.

Yes, it's all about the ramps.  Side by side comparison.

It's hard to tell from the picture but are the the length of the threads longer on the newer part?
:nix:
HOGMIKE
SoCal

les

Quote from: HOGMIKE on April 02, 2020, 05:33:01 AM
Quote from: les on April 01, 2020, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: ecir50 on March 31, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
did you compare the two, IIRC only the torque specs and the ramp has changed.

Yes, it's all about the ramps.  Side by side comparison.

It's hard to tell from the picture but are the the length of the threads longer on the newer part?
:nix:

No.  Sorry about the dirt.

les

One more nice thing about the 2020 axle is that the hole on the end of the threaded end is a larger hole than my old axle.  This makes getting one jaw of a decent pair of needle nose pliers in that hole, with the other jaw on top of the clip, to make is much easier to squeeze the clip back on the axle end.  Sorry, forgot to mention that earlier on. 

BigT

I installed the new axle on my 2017 Street Glide several weeks ago. It seemed tougher to keep the axel/cam from spinning and throwing the belt out of adjustment spec while final torquing the nut than the stock axel. I did have to re-adjust after about 200 miles also. It has seen a few burnouts and wheelies since and hasn't moved.

Boe Cole

I am going to skip getting the new axle for the time being.  After cleaning up the excess grease on the swingarm and installing the BigBear axle lock, things are holding tight.  The BigBear axle lock made belt adjustment easy as well as when I torqued the axle nut, the axle did not move at all.  Saved many trips going around the bike to confirm belt tension, not to mention getting up and down countless times. 
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

road-dawgs1

Quote from: FSG on March 31, 2020, 05:31:04 PM
maybe the Rear Axle Kit 94100083

Just figured out it's actually pn#43000213. The other number on the top of the I-sheet must be a weird number or the number of the I-sheet itself.
'24 FLTRX Sharkskin blue

thirdjld

May 03, 2020, 09:02:37 AM #20 Last Edit: May 03, 2020, 02:34:40 PM by thirdjld
 :crook:
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Thermodyne

I have a little tool that holds the axel adjustment while you tighten the nut.  And a wobble socket that reaches in past the can, so you can just set the torque without worrying about angles and math formulas.



Past that, if you put enough power to theses axel cams, the one on the right will fail.  Mine had gotten sloppy on the axel, then it actually split.

The fix for that was old school adjusters and a new axel.


road-dawgs1

Neat socket, where did you acquire that?
'24 FLTRX Sharkskin blue

calif phil

Quote from: road-dawgs1 on June 09, 2020, 12:07:01 PM
Neat socket, where did you acquire that?

Motion Pro socket, they work well.

92flhtcu

and I love the Jim's tool for holding it, I feel if I only use 4/5 times a year, its worth it
Need a bigger garage