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Offline Racepres

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2020, 08:59:16 AM »
It appears to be the '98 to '06 clutch. Hence the problem with overfilling the primary to pre '98 specs.

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2020, 12:43:13 AM »
 
then operate the clutch lever, any significant movement is a good indicator of the outer clutch cable jacket collapsing

Can you expound on that a little? If you adjust as you've described, then watch where that red arrow is pointed and operate the clutch, it is definitely going to move outward significantly, no? Or are you saying it will move out, then start moving back in as you hold the clutch lever steady?

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no, if you were to screw the adjuster in all the way so that the clutch plates separated and there was no further travel available with the ramps in their home position ....

then the clutch lever wouldn't be able to pull the cable and rotate the inner ramp

so if there is movement of the clutch lever in this condition then it's a good indicator of the cables outer cable collapsing

?  or have I just made it worse/harder to understand   :SM:

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #52 on: July 09, 2020, 02:00:07 AM »
no, if you were to screw the adjuster in all the way so that the clutch plates separated and there was no further travel available with the ramps in their home position ....
then the clutch lever wouldn't be able to pull the cable and rotate the inner ramp
so if there is movement of the clutch lever in this condition then it's a good indicator of the cables outer cable collapsing
?  or have I just made it worse/harder to understand   :SM:

I think once you read it 4 times it makes sense...........3 times was not enough  :bike:
You are correct though.

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2020, 05:25:35 AM »
And take FSG's tutorial one step farther, and you see that this is the very Best time to set lever free play!!!!

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2020, 08:22:54 AM »
OK, I get it now. Bottom the clutch diaphragm with adjuster screw, take the slack out of the cable, then pull the lever. The lever should be rock solid, if not, cable jacket is stretching. (I think I got a little lost in the Australian to American translation of the world "collapsed")
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I've never thought of that before, and have put an awful lot of miles/pulls in the big city on clutch cables. Will indeed check that out. Thanks!

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2020, 02:47:11 PM »
OK, I get it now. Bottom the clutch diaphragm with adjuster screw, take the slack out of the cable, then pull the lever. The lever should be rock solid, if not, cable jacket is stretching. (I think I got a little lost in the Australian to American translation of the world "collapsed")
 :SM:
I've never thought of that before, and have put an awful lot of miles/pulls in the big city on clutch cables. Will indeed check that out. Thanks!

-JW
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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #56 on: July 09, 2020, 02:49:12 PM »
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The lever should be rock solid, if not, cable jacket is stretching collapsing/compressing.

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #57 on: July 09, 2020, 04:23:03 PM »
"us bloody australians. Australians."
We love you, no matter what you call,....anything. FSG more help, without chest pumping than anyone, ever. :chop:

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2020, 05:17:46 PM »
I'll drink to that!
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I just need to brush up on my Australianese.

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Re: Can't find neutral while engine running
« Reply #59 on: July 09, 2020, 06:16:01 PM »
So I re-adjusted my clutch pushrod without slackening the cable first. Then i adjusted the slack out of the cable. 
I also changed my shifter bushing so my shifter doesnt wobble any more.

I dont know which one it was or maybe a combination of both, but the bike shifts fine with no more clutch drag and i can actually find neutral.
It does help to blip the throttle a little when shifting into neutral but that did not help before.

Thanks to everyone for all the help and great info.