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S&S 551 and stock pushrods?

Started by 838, September 20, 2020, 01:15:57 PM

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838

Can stock pushrods be used with the 551 in a 96"?

Thanks

Ohio HD


838

Searched through this and couldn't find the answer. Would "bolt in" mean yes, or did I miss something?


rigidthumper

Quote from: 838 on September 20, 2020, 03:17:54 PM
Searched through this and couldn't find the answer. Would "bolt in" mean yes, or did I miss something?
"Bolt-in" = compatible with all stock components, so, yes.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

cheech

Since you're are saying 96", can we assume you're asking about a stock 96" (meaning 07 up)?
Your question made me scratch my head because I did a 551 in a 06 down 6 months ago and thought didn't those install sheets say they can't.
And This sheet claims they can't
in 06 down.

04rkryder

Different valve springs in the 99-06 and the 07 up.

FXDBI

 :scratch:  The older twin cams 99-06 didnt they need the clearance checked and opened up in the cam chest for the lobes has well?   Bob

scootertrash1

Just put S&S 551 in 2010 96 inch Ultra. S&S sheet did say stock push rods are OK. I did install S&S 110 big bore, Gear drive cam drive, and S&S heads as well as Fueling lifters and the rocker lockers. Hey, there was a pandemic going on! It all runs fine, but makes a fair amount of noise to the point where I may go with adjustable push rods to get rid of the tapping.

838

Quote from: scootertrash1 on September 24, 2020, 05:22:25 PM
Just put S&S 551 in 2010 96 inch Ultra. S&S sheet did say stock push rods are OK. I did install S&S 110 big bore, Gear drive cam drive, and S&S heads as well as Fueling lifters and the rocker lockers. Hey, there was a pandemic going on! It all runs fine, but makes a fair amount of noise to the point where I may go with adjustable push rods to get rid of the tapping.

Thanks for that info. Probably a torquey sucker at 110". What's your compression?

838

Quote from: FXDBI on September 21, 2020, 08:11:36 PM
:scratch:  The older twin cams 99-06 didnt they need the clearance checked and opened up in the cam chest for the lobes has well?   Bob

We had to clear for a tman625 in an 04...

FSG

Quote from: cheech on September 21, 2020, 01:37:07 PM
Since you're are saying 96", can we assume you're asking about a stock 96" (meaning 07 up)?
Your question made me scratch my head because I did a 551 in a 06 down 6 months ago and thought didn't those install sheets say they can't.
And This sheet claims they can't
in 06 down.

This sheet claims they can't in 06 down.

that needs some clarification as it actually says "Except 2006 Dyna models" 
and that is because the '06 Dynas were the start of the 96"

Hossamania

Quote from: scootertrash1 on September 24, 2020, 05:22:25 PM
Just put S&S 551 in 2010 96 inch Ultra. S&S sheet did say stock push rods are OK. I did install S&S 110 big bore, Gear drive cam drive, and S&S heads as well as Fueling lifters and the rocker lockers. Hey, there was a pandemic going on! It all runs fine, but makes a fair amount of noise to the point where I may go with adjustable push rods to get rid of the tapping.

Not really a stock set up, I would go with the adjustable pushrods from the beginning.
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it can take everything you have.

838

Quote from: FSG on September 24, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Quote from: cheech on September 21, 2020, 01:37:07 PM
Since you're are saying 96", can we assume you're asking about a stock 96" (meaning 07 up)?
Your question made me scratch my head because I did a 551 in a 06 down 6 months ago and thought didn't those install sheets say they can't.
And This sheet claims they can't
in 06 down.

This sheet claims they can't in 06 down.

that needs some clarification as it actually says "Except 2006 Dyna models" 
and that is because the '06 Dynas were the start of the 96"

06 dyna was an 88" with new hydraulic tensioner cam setup and a 6 speed transmission iirc.

FSG

Quote from: 838 on September 24, 2020, 09:55:51 PM

06 dyna was an 88" with new hydraulic tensioner cam setup and a 6 speed transmission iirc.

you're correct 

the 06 Dyna was the start of the New Cases and Powertrain  ....

never the less .... 

This sheet claims they can't in 06 down.

needs clarification as it actually says "Except 2006 Dyna models" 

cheech

Quote from: FSG on September 24, 2020, 07:28:26 PM

This sheet claims they can't in 06 down.

that needs some clarification as it actually says "Except 2006 Dyna models" 
and that is because the '06 Dynas were the start of the 96"

Yes, I agree my post does need clarification. But albeit the sheet does clarify the 06 Dyna exception.  :SM:

scootertrash1

It is a lugger and once the Auto Tune is done, it really should be a decent runner. Only have 250 miles on it now. It'll be awhile! The advertised CR was 10.5:1 but have not checked with what I actually have. The one post said I should have probably gone with adjustable push rods and yeah, I should have!

Don D

06 Dyna is 88" but has all of the 2007up hydraulic and roller cam drive setup.

scootertrash1

I am going to remove my stock pushrods and install adjustable in my 2010 Ultra as described earlier. I only have experience with SE units. What about the S&S? Quckie or Standard? The reason I even want to do is to quiet the tapping down. Would the standard style give me a bit more adjustment over the Quickie style?