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Rekluse Torquedrive.
« on: November 21, 2020, 04:42:04 PM »
Can this system hold 140 ft/lbs?

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 05:06:41 PM »
Just for the hell of it I did a search.  I couldn't find anywhere that they (or anyone) indicated or even hinted how much it will hold. I find that strange.  Kinda makes it a crap shoot. That said, almost any clutch can probably hold 140 with a hat on.  It'll just slip in the lower rpm's and it will probably be a bear to pull in the lever at high RPM.   

I would go straight to a Bandit Sportsman.  They WILL hold 140 ft. lbs. with ease. I know that's not what you asked but you've been hanging around this forum long enough to know the Bandit may be the most recommended clutch available.  No need for a hat or wrist burning spring pressure.  Mine is holding 149 hp / 145 ft. lbs. in a heavy RGU and I DO beat on it every time it's out.
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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 05:45:02 PM »
Yes it will

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 09:43:15 PM »
I think it’s the clutch Moonshine Harley uses in their builds. 

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 01:28:07 AM »
Running Rekluse clutch in a 107 and now 110, holds awesome without a lot of spring (SE) I think it will hold 140 TQ as is. Definitely with a heavier spring.
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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 05:26:07 AM »
I sell the RMS-285 (application specific per year) with most builds, good up to 160#. They have versions that can take much higher up to 220 ft/lbs. they will build. The lever pressure goes up proportionally. The lever pull on the standard model is lighter than stock.

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 06:36:58 AM »
I sell the RMS-285

What's the difference between the RMS-284 ?
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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 07:07:51 AM »
Same basic unit, applies to different years. RMS-285 is with slipper assist, RMS-284 is without. See page 805 Fatbook

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2020, 02:42:50 PM »
Running Rekluse clutch in a 107 and now 110, holds awesome without a lot of spring (SE) I think it will hold 140 TQ as is. Definitely with a heavier spring.

Would this be necessary in a lighter bike (dyna), or would a vpc be enough?

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2020, 04:05:06 PM »
I have a EVO Ind. Clutch in my Dyna. VPC works, but I don't like them. Hard to shift at full throttle. I'd run a Rekluse in a Dyna or bagger
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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2020, 08:05:56 PM »
Running Rekluse clutch in a 107 and now 110, holds awesome without a lot of spring (SE) I think it will hold 140 TQ as is. Definitely with a heavier spring.

Would this be necessary in a lighter bike (dyna), or would a vpc be enough?

Depends on what you want to do with that 140 horsepower. If you want to spin the rear wheel, ride wheelies and impress your buddies with how powerful your bike is, get the Bandit, or run the Rekluse with a heavy spring.  But if you would like to launch that bike and not spin or wheelie, a variable pressure plate is the way to go. No question about it.

I have a couple of lighter weight harleys with TC 124s that put out over 150hp (possibly 160) and have been through just about every clutch package imaginable, to include the highly revered Bandit Sportsman clutch. The Sportsman isn't all that. Great for high torque baggers that spend time on the dyno, not good for trying to launch a bike.

FWIW - I run a Torquemaster in one of my FXRs and really like it. Its a TC 124, the break in dyno sheet is in the dyno section of this forum. The setup is a transmission with a close ratio first gear, 25/36 primary gearing, 22/38secondary gearing, Rekluse Torquemaster clutch pack in a '98 and up style clutch basket, VPC-95 pressure plate and the lightest spring I could find. I race on the street for money often, and this package works very well for my use. I put a much heavier spring when the bike is on the dyno.

My suggestion to you would be to install the Torquemaster clutch pack. If the clutch slips during street use , outside of the bike being launched real hard, then add the heaviest VPC hat (I think it is the -95) and start with the lightest spring you can find. Swap out to a slightly thicker spring if the clutch slips outside of hard launches. Keep swapping in heavier swings until you find clutch nirvana. I suspect the lightest spring you can find with the VPC-95 will be almost perfect for your application.
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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 07:28:32 AM »
Running Rekluse clutch in a 107 and now 110, holds awesome without a lot of spring (SE) I think it will hold 140 TQ as is. Definitely with a heavier spring.

Would this be necessary in a lighter bike (dyna), or would a vpc be enough?

Depends on what you want to do with that 140 horsepower. If you want to spin the rear wheel, ride wheelies and impress your buddies with how powerful your bike is, get the Bandit, or run the Rekluse with a heavy spring.  But if you would like to launch that bike and not spin or wheelie, a variable pressure plate is the way to go. No question about it.

I have a couple of lighter weight harleys with TC 124s that put out over 150hp (possibly 160) and have been through just about every clutch package imaginable, to include the highly revered Bandit Sportsman clutch. The Sportsman isn't all that. Great for high torque baggers that spend time on the dyno, not good for trying to launch a bike.

FWIW - I run a Torquemaster in one of my FXRs and really like it. Its a TC 124, the break in dyno sheet is in the dyno section of this forum. The setup is a transmission with a close ratio first gear, 25/36 primary gearing, 22/38secondary gearing, Rekluse Torquemaster clutch pack in a '98 and up style clutch basket, VPC-95 pressure plate and the lightest spring I could find. I race on the street for money often, and this package works very well for my use. I put a much heavier spring when the bike is on the dyno.

My suggestion to you would be to install the Torquemaster clutch pack. If the clutch slips during street use , outside of the bike being launched real hard, then add the heaviest VPC hat (I think it is the -95) and start with the lightest spring you can find. Swap out to a slightly thicker spring if the clutch slips outside of hard launches. Keep swapping in heavier swings until you find clutch nirvana. I suspect the lightest spring you can find with the VPC-95 will be almost perfect for your application.

Great info thank you! Ive not heard of the “torquemaster.”

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2020, 09:30:34 AM »
Running Rekluse clutch in a 107 and now 110, holds awesome without a lot of spring (SE) I think it will hold 140 TQ as is. Definitely with a heavier spring.

Would this be necessary in a lighter bike (dyna), or would a vpc be enough?

Depends on what you want to do with that 140 horsepower. If you want to spin the rear wheel, ride wheelies and impress your buddies with how powerful your bike is, get the Bandit, or run the Rekluse with a heavy spring.  But if you would like to launch that bike and not spin or wheelie, a variable pressure plate is the way to go. No question about it.

I have a couple of lighter weight harleys with TC 124s that put out over 150hp (possibly 160) and have been through just about every clutch package imaginable, to include the highly revered Bandit Sportsman clutch. The Sportsman isn't all that. Great for high torque baggers that spend time on the dyno, not good for trying to launch a bike.

FWIW - I run a Torquemaster in one of my FXRs and really like it. Its a TC 124, the break in dyno sheet is in the dyno section of this forum. The setup is a transmission with a close ratio first gear, 25/36 primary gearing, 22/38secondary gearing, Rekluse Torquemaster clutch pack in a '98 and up style clutch basket, VPC-95 pressure plate and the lightest spring I could find. I race on the street for money often, and this package works very well for my use. I put a much heavier spring when the bike is on the dyno.

My suggestion to you would be to install the Torquemaster clutch pack. If the clutch slips during street use , outside of the bike being launched real hard, then add the heaviest VPC hat (I think it is the -95) and start with the lightest spring you can find. Swap out to a slightly thicker spring if the clutch slips outside of hard launches. Keep swapping in heavier swings until you find clutch nirvana. I suspect the lightest spring you can find with the VPC-95 will be almost perfect for your application.

Great info thank you! Ive not heard of the “torquemaster.”

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2020, 10:59:49 AM »
Running Rekluse clutch in a 107 and now 110, holds awesome without a lot of spring (SE) I think it will hold 140 TQ as is. Definitely with a heavier spring.

Would this be necessary in a lighter bike (dyna), or would a vpc be enough?

Depends on what you want to do with that 140 horsepower. If you want to spin the rear wheel, ride wheelies and impress your buddies with how powerful your bike is, get the Bandit, or run the Rekluse with a heavy spring.  But if you would like to launch that bike and not spin or wheelie, a variable pressure plate is the way to go. No question about it.

I have a couple of lighter weight harleys with TC 124s that put out over 150hp (possibly 160) and have been through just about every clutch package imaginable, to include the highly revered Bandit Sportsman clutch. The Sportsman isn't all that. Great for high torque baggers that spend time on the dyno, not good for trying to launch a bike.

FWIW - I run a Torquemaster in one of my FXRs and really like it. Its a TC 124, the break in dyno sheet is in the dyno section of this forum. The setup is a transmission with a close ratio first gear, 25/36 primary gearing, 22/38secondary gearing, Rekluse Torquemaster clutch pack in a '98 and up style clutch basket, VPC-95 pressure plate and the lightest spring I could find. I race on the street for money often, and this package works very well for my use. I put a much heavier spring when the bike is on the dyno.

My suggestion to you would be to install the Torquemaster clutch pack. If the clutch slips during street use , outside of the bike being launched real hard, then add the heaviest VPC hat (I think it is the -95) and start with the lightest spring you can find. Swap out to a slightly thicker spring if the clutch slips outside of hard launches. Keep swapping in heavier swings until you find clutch nirvana. I suspect the lightest spring you can find with the VPC-95 will be almost perfect for your application.

Great info thank you! Ive not heard of the “torquemaster.”

Torquedrive

https://rekluse.com/product/torq-drive-clutch-hd/

This bike will be ridden very hard while at cruising speeds. No burnouts, no wheelies. Lots of downshifting and hard accelerations. It will need to hook up at low rpms but won’t be rung out from a dead stop... once in motion he’ll rip on it and not want the tire to break loose. Dyna 124” 11.25:1 tman 662-2.

Already has a vpc and heavy HD spring with stock plates, engine is pulled at the moment.

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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2020, 01:17:57 PM »
Yeah, he says that now but wait until he gets a few whiffs of melted rubber.   :SM:
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Re: Rekluse Torquedrive.
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2020, 05:08:46 PM »
How about a 9 plate Kevlar set up, with an AIM/VPC? In any case, the variable pressure clutch works great for my 130lb. torque. Absolutely rock solid. I realize it’s not 140, but, it is a strong performer.
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