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Offline kd

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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2020, 08:09:02 AM »
The frame, front end, primaries, etc. is early 70's FX / FL or aftermarket FX / FL.

A '64 Pan Head had a tin primary, so no electric start period. Even if the "cases" are '64 panhead, the sprocket shaft had to be changed on the crank to accommodate the electric start and longer 4 speed shaft to accommodate the aluminum primary. There was no such thing as a '64 Pan electric start.

Also the wrong primary cover( even if it is an ultra rare 64 Electra Glide) Note the derby cover

 :idea:  You're fright, there IS one!   :wink:
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2020, 08:22:48 AM »
This thread is starting to sound like the "1966 Shovel Head motors had bigger valves than other years".......      :sick:

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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2020, 08:24:50 AM »
This thread is starting to sound like the "1966 Shovel Head motors had bigger valves than other years".......      :sick:

Wives tales and sewing circles.      :SM:

Well they did.  In 1966 the other years were pan heads.  :wink:
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2020, 08:49:55 AM »
The new normal, “ let me check Craig’s list on that”.  :doh:
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2020, 06:08:28 PM »
I contacted the seller and he sent a few photos. He said he bought the bike from a widow in Wisconsin about six months ago. The bike was not running at that time but he got it working. He said he has no documentation for it. I told him the cylinders had no MCC logos and neither could I see any date codes on them.

One photo I received showed most of the trans case casting number and I told the seller I suspected it was 34703 65. For 1964 Pan trans cases two casting numbers were used. One was 121-35 and the other was 34703 64 but neither of the 1964 trans cases could accommodate an aluminium inner primary. Therefore I think the casting number on that trans was 34703 65 which was first used for 1965 models.

I also told him why I thought the frame is either 75 or 76. That was twelve days ago and I have heard nothing since. I think the engine may have started life as a normal 64 and someone adapted the aluminium primary covers and electric starter to it later on. And at some stage the cylinders were changed and the engine was put in a Shovel frame etc.   
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2020, 06:22:08 PM »
I machined the left side '56 FLH crankcase half flat to remove the ribbed surface used with the tin primary to the same depth as a 65 to 69. I then used the next version transmission case with the mounting ears for the primary and fitted an early electric start to it. That required the 65 to 69 transmission main shaft. Its length was mid way between the early tin and late alternator set-up and only made for 4 years.  Not too much trouble if you had the parts.  Tough to do well with a horseshoe tank though.  Not much room for a real battery.
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2020, 04:01:27 AM »
This is a '64 Pan Head





That is a BEAUTIFUL 1964 FLH!.....you forgot the beautiful word... :smile:
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2021, 08:41:29 AM »
1965 first year electric start, was last year of the Pan Head.

Motor may be a '64, most everything else isn't.

Not to be a stickler, but the 1964 GE Servi-car is the first electric start HD..

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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2021, 08:51:17 AM »
There ya go!
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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2021, 09:13:50 AM »
Yes, but it's a 45 CI motor, three speed transmission, etc., etc. Nothing that fits a Big Twin.

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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2021, 09:52:20 AM »
1965 first year electric start, was last year of the Pan Head.

Motor may be a '64, most everything else isn't.

Not to be a stickler, but the 1964 GE Servi-car is the first electric start HD..

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Re: A '64 Electric Start?
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2021, 10:44:51 AM »
According to this quick blurb, electric start was secretly available in '64.

https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-american-motorcycles/1964-model-fl-ze0z1208zsch

Except the picture looks like it has a horse shoe oil tank, not the large battery box, with the cover at the bottom that hides the starter relay.
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