starting

[david lee]

 went to start the shovel and all i get is a clicking sound every 5 seconds. from 1 of the 3 circuit breakers under the seat when i turn the key on.the oil and neutral wont come on either the battery has 12.3 v. i did have the fender of and it fell down on top off the tyre could i have disturbed something or a relay has failed. help would be appreciated

[kd]

If the tail light wiring was still attached you likely pulled it and caused a short to ground.  Follow those wires and you'll probably find it.

[david lee]

all the wires are connected.would cleaning the terminals be the cause.or can the breaker actually fail inside thanks all the lights work

[guppymech]

I had a replica turn signal flasher unit come apart in the headlight that gave a direct short to ground, had the same symptoms as your having.  I was out on a ride when it happened and had to find and fix it so I could get home.  I'm the last person on earth that doesn't have a cell phone.  ha!

[david lee]

If the tail light wiring was still attached you likely pulled it and caused a short to ground.  Follow those wires and you'll probably find it.

you mean the tail light wires going in to the tail light thanks

[billbuilds]

     Are you certain that it's a circuit breaker making the clicking noise or could it possibly be your starter relay.? I'd advise you to take the seat off and see if you can isolate which breaker (if in fact it is a breaker) is making the noise. Putting your finger on each breaker as you hit the start button should enable you to feel which one is tripping. How about your horn, does it work? It sounds like you have a wire grounding out. Isolating which breaker is tripping wil help you narrow down which wires to check for continuity. 

[david lee]

     Are you certain that it's a circuit breaker making the clicking noise or could it possibly be your starter relay.? I'd advise you to take the seat off and see if you can isolate which breaker (if in fact it is a breaker) is making the noise. Putting your finger on each breaker as you hit the start button should enable you to feel which one is tripping. How about your horn, does it work? It sounds like you have a wire grounding out. Isolating which breaker is tripping wil help you narrow down which wires to check for continuity.

the seat is off and the fenderis resting on the tyre.the clicking is coming from the starter circuit breaker as soon as i turn the key.the starter relay will click separately when i press the starter button the lights work when i turn the key to the next position.  what i will say is the bike fell of the jack with no shocks and the frame bottoming out on the ground and bending the chain guard the 3 circuit breakers might have hit the frame when that happened but they dont look damaged ive pulled the ign and all wires look good thanks

[Tynker]

went to start the shovel and all i get is a clicking sound every 5 seconds. from 1 of the 3 circuit breakers under the seat when i turn the key on.the oil and neutral wont come on either the battery has 12.3 v. i did have the fender of and it fell down on top off the tyre could i have disturbed something or a relay has failed. help would be appreciated

At 12.3 volts, your battery is toast.

[david lee]

went to start the shovel and all i get is a clicking sound every 5 seconds. from 1 of the 3 circuit breakers under the seat when i turn the key on.the oil and neutral wont come on either the battery has 12.3 v. i did have the fender of and it fell down on top off the tyre could i have disturbed something or a relay has failed. help would be appreciated

At 12.3 volts, your battery is toast.

i just went and turned the headlight on and when i pressed the starter the light did not dull and got only a click from the starter relay. but what was unusual is when i pressed the indicator buttons dont work. if the battery is toast wold i still get intermediate clicking from the igh circuit breaker under the seatwhich has not done before with a dud battery. thanks

[kd]

Charge the battery and if possible have it load tested.  It's likely if you have had the lights on a bunch the surface charge on the battery is depleted. It still may be weak but test it after being charged for a real world check. Is it still clicking every 5 seconds or so key on without touching anything?

[david lee]

Charge the battery and if possible have it load tested.  It's likely if you have had the lights on a bunch the surface charge on the battery is depleted. It still may be weak but test it after being charged for a real world check. Is it still clicking every 5 seconds or so key on without touching anything?

yes still clicking with the ign on and clicks once when the ign is turned off

[Hossamania]

Look again for a short, a damaged wire. Charge the battery. Disconnect it while charging. Note the load when reconnecting, there should not be a large spark.

[david lee]

Look again for a short, a damaged wire. Charge the battery. Disconnect it while charging. Note the load when reconnecting, there should not be a large spark.

as in 2 wires touching.theres no wires touching the frame thanks

[david lee]

you can feel the clicking going thru the yellow wire from the ign switch to the circuit breaker

[xlfan]

Have you tried to energize the thin small solenoid post wire directly from the 12V+ feed post on solenoid?

[david lee]

Have you tried to energize the thin small solenoid post wire directly from the 12V+ feed post on solenoid?

no

[xlfan]

Make sure you are in neutral. If starter works as it should, you have at least verified that starter and solenoid is ok, and that battery still has ooomph to pull.

[motorhogman]

at 12.3 V your battery is about 50% charged.  as others have said,, Charge it and test it..

[david lee]

charged battery stiill the problem even  changed battery from my trike which i know is good still the problem.the one thing i did notice by feel is the thick yellow wire has insulation tape wrapped around it at the ign joining point.but feels connected.will check cant see any damaged wires or wires touching.could the breaker be damaged inside when the bike fell and how can it be tested thanks

[Hossamania]

Easiest way to test is to replace it with new, they aren't that expensive, or swap it with another known good one.

[david lee]

a mate whos a wizard with mc wiring is coming to sort the problem out hes convinced its a dead short. will post the result for those interested

[xlfan]

a mate whos a wizard with mc wiring is coming to sort the problem out hes convinced its a dead short. will post the result for those interested

Steering head/fuel tank area?

[crock]

 

[david lee]

a mate whos a wizard with mc wiring is coming to sort the problem out hes convinced its a dead short. will post the result for those interested

Steering head/fuel tank area?

maybe its  a tight fit there

[xlfan]

And almost always constant movement resulting in mechanical wear.