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Offline motorhogman

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2021, 11:55:00 AM »
Well, joy was short lived.
Got it all apart and reassembled up to the primary cover.
Dam parts guy  :slap: gave me outer primary wrong gasket...
Tuesday after work to the parts counter.
Thanks again guys.
Rob

I have reused the OEM primary gasket often 2 or 3 times without any issues. The one I have in now has been reused at least 3 times.
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2021, 12:04:23 PM »
 :agree:  Same here.  Were you gentle with it.  Clean it up and put it back on.
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2021, 03:15:43 PM »
I agree Rob, the old gasket is probably ok, and should seal.
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2021, 03:25:18 PM »
Actually a 30mm socket should be used instead of the 1 3/16. Can use it once or twice but the nut edges will start to round.

Never damaged one and taken some of multiple times using a 1 3/16 socket and using the same socket I used 30 years ago.

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30.00mm = 1.181
1-3/16 = 1.187

There's 0.005" 0.006" difference.......  the average thickness of hair is 0.0025". So two thicknesses of hair.

I think we're good using our 1-3/16" sockets Scotty. I'm sure you like I have pretty decent quality tools that are sized accurately.
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2021, 04:35:11 PM »
:up:

30.00mm = 1.181
1-3/16 = 1.187

There's 0.005" difference.......  the average thickness of hair is 0.0025". So two thicknesses of hair.

I think we're good using our 1-3/16" sockets Scotty. I'm sure you like I have pretty decent quality tools that are sized accurately.

 :up:
Yes quality over saving a few bucks buying cheap ones that crack when you put them to the test and like you said not sized correctly.

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2021, 05:08:19 PM »
Machining the face will give more purchase too.   BTW a blond or a red one is usually less than average.  Measured and confirmed.   :wink:
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2021, 05:26:43 PM »
Yes it does help to get more engagement. My sockets are all Snap On, and they don't have the bevel at the hex like some tools have.
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2021, 06:22:38 PM »
:agree:  Same here.  Were you gentle with it.  Clean it up and put it back on.

Remember guys, I like to fix things till they break....
I tossed it assuming I would negate any possibility of a leak.
anyways, new gasket in hand so to speak and calling buddy in a few to see if we can do this this evening.
Otherwise Friday night in the garage and get 'er done.
Thanks for all the kind encouragement and tips/pointers etc.
Was a big step for me...seriously.
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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2021, 05:02:01 AM »
Yes it does help to get more engagement. My sockets are all Snap On, and they don't have the bevel at the hex like some tools have.

That makes a big difference. I used to be a SnapOn dealer in another lifetime & 99% of my sockets/open end combo wrenches etc. are SO.

I used to build a lot of 93 & 98” Shovelhead S&S Sidewinder kits (before S&S screwed me over big time) & right in the instructions it said “use only a SO open end wrench to tq the cylinder base nuts down” & even listed the SO part # for the wrench to use.

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2021, 04:44:06 PM »
Machining the face will give more purchase too.   BTW a blond or a red one is usually less than average.  Measured and confirmed.   :wink:
Ive always heard that. Now I know.

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2021, 02:58:43 PM »
:agree:  Same here.  Were you gentle with it.  Clean it up and put it back on.

I have picked up so many tips on this site from so truely talented people, I'll offer that I have a couple of short pieces of 1/4X20 threaded rod that I finger tighten into the primary cover holes to hang the gasket & cover on prior to the actual bolt install. I have been in my '13 bagger primary at least 6 times (SE Comp, Compensaver, Primo Rivera 32 tooth sprocket, general inspection) and am still on the OEM primary gasket.   

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2021, 04:21:31 PM »
I have a couple of short pieces of 1/4X20 threaded rod that I finger tighten into the primary cover holes to hang the gasket & cover on prior to the actual bolt install.

I've been doing that for years, that is a great tip.

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2021, 05:03:39 PM »
I have a couple of short pieces of 1/4X20 threaded rod that I finger tighten into the primary cover holes to hang the gasket & cover on prior to the actual bolt install.

I've been doing that for years, that is a great tip.

~John


same here    :chop:

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Re: SE Compensator removal/install ??
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2021, 05:37:32 AM »
Some history. In 2014 the Screamin’ Eagle compensator was redesigned over the 2013 and previous versions. One of the tell tales of the 2014 design is the T70 bolt. It also became standard equipment in the Big Twin engines.

That said, there have been 2 versions of the 2014 design, the “early model year 2014 version” and the current version shipping today.

The early 2014 version shipped with some shims that were used on certain bike models. Then a running change in design/production occurred to the comp’s “slider cam”. The redesigned slider cam eliminated the need for the shims. (supposedly)

So if you’re pulling a bike apart and see that T70 bolt, that should indicate it’s a 2014+ compensator, however, then you need to determine which version of the 2014+ compensator you have. That’s where the M-1352 service bulletin comes in handy because it describes the change in the slider cam.

My comp that I just bought was manufactured last month, so it’s the latest design. The instructions I posted previously are the instructions that came with it.

So here are the 2 versions of installation instructions for the 2014+ comp in one spot:

Early version 2014 with shims (J05674)

Current version 2014 (J05885)

Now I’m no expert and don’t have the experience that many on HTT possess, so if I’ve wrong on something, well…  :emoGroan:

To the OP, since you mentioned you’re going to be doing some work on the shifter shaft seal you might find some useful reading in this thread here.

Thank you for the history of the SE Compensator!

Jason
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