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Cam Dilemma for 103
« on: October 09, 2021, 01:01:37 PM »
Hears the dilemma,Sold my 2010 70000 mile FLHX that ran REAL good with a 110 drop in kit, Tourqe inc heads & his custom cam & other go fast parts, well im done with that!
Bought a 12 FLHX to replace it with 8000 Miles,DON't want to go balls out on any mods other than cam & maybe exaust. Exaust will be Ful-sac with V&H slugs that it came with, there quiet!

Question is (these cams i have in stock from take outs) don't even want to spend $$ on cams. zjust want a good running bike with a little more go rolling down the road.
TTS150(very little on the net about these in a 103) Most go TTS100 in 103.
SE 203 i took out of my old 96"
SE255'S
Dave Mackey TC575L (last choice)
My go too in this situation is the T-Mann 555TRQ's But Don't want to Spend $$ But will if all are Few bared.
Hardtail78 will tune it up w/TTS

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2021, 01:06:22 PM »
If your staying with what you have listed, I'd use the SE255's. Tuned they pick up a little bit across the board.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2021, 04:17:52 PM »
Why not sell those cams off and then buy the 555s that you want?

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2021, 05:00:13 PM »
Why not sell those cams off and then buy the 555s that you want?

This. Sell and buy the CR-570-2.

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2021, 05:16:25 PM »
Why not sell those cams off and then buy the 555s that you want?

This. Sell and buy the CR-570-2.

The 574-2 was on the short list,If I wanted future upgrades,but that was short lived as I'm NOT going any bigger or faster!
Il look @ the 570-2.
Hard to sell the cams I have,that's the reason I took them out lol!
Wish there was more on the TTs 150! 
Wanna do this once & done.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2021, 05:17:42 PM »
If your staying with what you have listed, I'd use the SE255's. Tuned they pick up a little bit across the board.
I like this cam in a 96,but just seems to fall 9ff a little soon for my touring needs.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2021, 05:24:27 PM »
Been all over inner tube looking for Graphs & info on the TTS150,a bunch of info on 110" & up but nothing on a 103 stock. Steve says 2200 to 5000 I like this range,just like to have more real world experience!
 Dam just remembered I installed these in a 103 that hardtail78 tuned for me before I pulled them to do a crank & 110 kit!  :slap:
Time to make a call!

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2021, 05:43:05 PM »
If you could put in a .030 head gasket youd be closer to the compression you would want for the 150. Probably need adjustable pushrods then too though.

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2021, 12:50:57 AM »
Why not sell those cams off and then buy the 555s that you want?

This. Sell and buy the CR-570-2.

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2021, 08:47:10 AM »
Are Andrew's 48s and 57s no longer in favor? Done a lot of bikes using them. Pull well, tune easy.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2021, 09:22:31 AM »
It ends up being a hunt for the best in a sea of mostly the same and all capable if compression is adjusted.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2021, 12:50:43 PM »
Are Andrew's 48s and 57s no longer in favor? Done a lot of bikes using them. Pull well, tune easy.

IMO, the 57's need more compression than stock. They really wake up when you get around 10.3 to 10.5 to 1.

48's are popular. Cams tend to be the flavor of the day. Not many bad ones as long as they are properly applied.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2021, 01:10:49 PM »
I might be tempted to advance the TTS-150's by 4. It'll give you about the same cylinder pressure as the OEM 103 cams. And then can be put back at 0 if you added more to the motor later. In a stock motor, nothing will interfere. 
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2021, 06:24:31 PM »
And what is the intake close on that cam?
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2021, 05:49:45 PM »
sell what you have, .030 gaskets and a set of TW 5-6 cams with a good 2 into 1. unbeatable power through the whole range. Have tried several different cam sets in 103/.030 D&D 2-1. the 5-6 is the answer and is very quiet also. 255's are hot, mackie's are ok. SE-203 would be as close to the 555's as you could get. Been in the same spot and used all of them. pulled a set of 5-6 from a buddys bike with true duals(installed S&S551). Good luck and post your results.

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2021, 09:56:51 AM »
4* retard on the 255 could work too.

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2021, 11:37:08 AM »
I can speak from personal experience with the SE 255 in a 96.
It ran really well and was done at about 4500 RPM.
Since I installed it into my then 2010 Road Glide it was a hard starter when heat soaked in really hot weather.

On a tight budget, I have installed the 103 HO cams from a 14 Street Glide into an older 96 and the bike had the same
characteristics as the SE 255's but pulled nicely to about 5200 RPM.

If I were to do the cam swap today in an otherwise stock 96 in., it would be the Andrews 48's and new lifters/adjustable pushrods. 

Stepping down. :smiled:

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2021, 02:37:21 PM »
Out of the ones you have laying around Id try the 203s, comparing all the specs (except for the top-secret one) its a whole lot closer to the 555s

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2021, 08:05:31 AM »
I have had good luck with the TTS 150,have used them in a 110 and a 107 bothe nice numbers a a flat torque curve.the 555 are also a favourite here.

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2021, 08:38:17 AM »
For me, I would drop the 150s in, just because I have them, and see how they do. I like to run my motors out, and don't want them dropping off like the 255s or 203s, so they have more appeal. If they aren't great, not a bunch of money spent, and knowledge gained.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2021, 11:12:19 AM »
Quit being cheap.  Get you heads to Capital for pocket porting and CC.  Shoot for 10.4, .5, and use the 150.  Save your money on a good tune and be done.  Do it now or do it later.  Too many fast bikes around Springfield you got your hands in to look at just a bolt in.  You can deal with guys having faster but they are gonna leave you like your standing still.  Then you are going to do what you should be doing now and I wont have to give up an extra Saturday if you do it all at once. :slap:
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2021, 12:04:08 PM »
Quit being cheap.  Get you heads to Capital for pocket porting and CC.  Shoot for 10.4, .5, and use the 150.  Save your money on a good tune and be done.  Do it now or do it later.  Too many fast bikes around Springfield you got your hands in to look at just a bolt in.  You can deal with guys having faster but they are gonna leave you like your standing still.  Then you are going to do what you should be doing now and I wont have to give up an extra Saturday if you do it all at once. :slap:

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2021, 12:20:27 PM »
Quit being cheap.  Get you heads to Capital for pocket porting and CC.  Shoot for 10.4, .5, and use the 150.  Save your money on a good tune and be done.  Do it now or do it later.  Too many fast bikes around Springfield you got your hands in to look at just a bolt in.  You can deal with guys having faster but they are gonna leave you like your standing still.  Then you are going to do what you should be doing now and I wont have to give up an extra Saturday if you do it all at once. :slap:

Is this a 96 or a 103? If its a 103 Id leave it and do the above. If its a 96 I like +.040 103 pistons (leaves room for 1 more bore and hone to 107 provided the cylinders stay healthy) and do the above.

Little tough love from hrdtail you guys must have done this before 👍

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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2021, 12:21:41 PM »
Quit being cheap.  Get you heads to Capital for pocket porting and CC.  Shoot for 10.4, .5, and use the 150.  Save your money on a good tune and be done.  Do it now or do it later.  Too many fast bikes around Springfield you got your hands in to look at just a bolt in.  You can deal with guys having faster but they are gonna leave you like your standing still.  Then you are going to do what you should be doing now and I wont have to give up an extra Saturday if you do it all at once. :slap:

Is this a 96 or a 103? If its a 103 Id leave it and do the above. If its a 96 I like +.040 103 pistons (leaves room for 1 more bore and hone to 107 provided the cylinders stay healthy) and do the above.

Little tough love from hrdtail you guys must have done this before 👍

Details in OP, 103". In the title, actually.
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Re: Cam Dilemma for 103
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2021, 02:59:26 PM »
I ran Andrews 48 in my 2010 road glide. Great cams. But once in a while. Hard starting. Now I have s&s 551 easy starts in my 2010 road king. No problems.