Head Quarters Cam

[dubepj]

My bike is a 1995 Heritage Softail.  It's a California model so pretty gutless.  I want to change cam.  Was going to use Andrews EV-27 but found a good deal on a Head Quarters HQ-0024.  Specs are quit close but can't find specs on RPM range.  the EV-27 says 1500 to 6000.  HQ-0024 (Rumble Stick) can't find RPM range.  What do you experts think?? HQ-0024 or EV-27.  Keep in mind I can get the HQ for about $100 less.  Thanks

[rigidthumper]

The 24 has 10° more exhaust, so you'll want to avoid drag pipes. Other than that, it's a wash power wise.

[harpwrench]

I ran one and it pulled good all the way up, and the valve train was quiet. I've never run an ev27 but I took out an ev13 to put in the 0024, because I didn't like the clatter.

[JW113]

Just my opinion, but...

Even EV-27 and likely the HQ0024 is going to want a little more compression ratio. '95 Softail, heavy bike,  rigid mount motor, doubt you will want to be taking it to 6K. I'd advise keep it strong in the midrange, as in 1500 to 4500. EV-13 would be a better choice if you're not going to shave the heads or replace the pistons. IMO!

-JW

[jsachs1]

My bike is a 1995 Heritage Softail.  It's a California model so pretty gutless.  I want to change cam.  Was going to use Andrews EV-27 but found a good deal on a Head Quarters HQ-0024.  Specs are quit close but can't find specs on RPM range.  the EV-27 says 1500 to 6000.  HQ-0024 (Rumble Stick) can't find RPM range.  What do you experts think?? HQ-0024 or EV-27.  Keep in mind I can get the HQ for about $100 less.  Thanks

Imo, you would NEVER tell the difference between the 2 cams. I've used a number of each, back in the day as drop in cams. Customers were always happy. And even if "Bike-O-Boredom" sets in, there's always room to make more power, by a compression increase.
Just be sure to check the condition of the cam.
John

[dubepj]

Thanks all for your reply.  I won't increase compression.  I like reg gas.  That stuff is not cheap.  here reg is 10 cents a liter cheaper

[Hossamania]

40¢ a gallon more, times 4 gallons, $1.60 more to fill a tank. $4 a gallon for regular, $4.40 for premium, $17.60 verses $16.00 to fill the tank.
Worth every penny to me for more power. But, I'm kind of a goofball that way.

[JW113]

Wow, $4 for regular. I wish. How about $6.25! And I am afraid to say, we are not seeing the end. Yes, my fellow Americans, get used to pay as much for gas as our fellow Europeans have been doing for decades...

-JW

[Hossamania]

$25.00 for a tank of regular, $26.40 for a tank of premium.
Now it makes even more sense to bump that compression...

[RTMike]

Check the cam for wear and who manufactured it,if the cam ID is on the collar of the cam by the gear it is from Crane,if it is on the bearing end it was from Andrews.The Andrews ones is the one you want.Crane had a problem with the material the cam was made from or heat treating as the bearing end would wear out prematurely.

[jsachs1]

Check the cam for wear and who manufactured it,if the cam ID is on the collar of the cam by the gear it is from Crane,if it is on the bearing end it was from Andrews.The Andrews ones is the one you want.Crane had a problem with the material the cam was made from or heat treating as the bearing end would wear out prematurely.

True that, that's why I said check the cam condition, especially the cam bearing area.
John

[JW113]

Maybe I missed something. Did he say he was considering a used cam?

-JW

[kd]

I don't see where he said used.  He did say he found a good deal which sometimes means used.

[JW113]

Ah, got it.

cheers,
JW

[jsachs1]

Even if it's New in the box, some early EVO Crane cams/cam grinds had a major wear problem in the cam bearing area. A long shot as he may remember, would be to check with Ben Kudon, at "American Prime" .IIRC, he was working at Crane for some time, when they were having cam billet issues.
John

[JW113]

Ah yes, remember that whole situation all too well. I think I got to know the guy at the other end of the tech line on a first name basis. I must have sent at least 6 cams back for replacement in the mid-90s. I loved their cam grinds, but damn. How hard is it to put a durable case hardening on a piece of metal? Everybody but Crane seemed to manage it.

-JW

[bobrk1]

My bike is a 1995 Heritage Softail.  It's a California model so pretty gutless.  I want to change cam.  Was going to use Andrews EV-27 but found a good deal on a Head Quarters HQ-0024.  Specs are quit close but can't find specs on RPM range.  the EV-27 says 1500 to 6000.  HQ-0024 (Rumble Stick) can't find RPM range.  What do you experts think?? HQ-0024 or EV-27.  Keep in mind I can get the HQ for about $100 less.  Thanks

the  ev13  will  run  great  on regular  gas , the  other  cams  like  Hi test , I  ran the  13 before  doing  head  work  and  the  27. Finally  went  with  the  thunder  stick  plus . All better  than  stock .