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OT: Installing A Large Window On The House..........

Started by JamLazyAss, June 07, 2009, 10:14:10 AM

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JamLazyAss

I bought a rather large window for my house.
It has to go on the second floor.
Directly below (outside) is a plastic corrigated roof for the porch. So I really don't want to carry the window up on that as it's very heavy.
Can it be installed from inside the house?
And another question about the plastic nailer flange on the edge of the window, does that need to be on the inside or outside of the house?
I'll try to get a couple of pictures and post them later today.

Any pointers (other than hire someone to do it).  :idea:
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Buckwheat


Hossamania

A couple of ideas; can you build a platform to go over the porch roof? Or rent some scaffolding.
The flange has to go on the outside. The flange keeps it from blowing in.
Consider hiring a handyman or friend with experience.
Have you thoght about how heavy it is and how your going to lift it in?
Even if you can install it from the inside, how are you going to push it into place once you get it thru the opening and nail it? Gonna have to figure out a platform on top of the porch.
Best of luck!
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Redleg

Is this window a fixed glass or is there sliders that can be taken out to lighten the load and make it easier to handle? If you can remove the sliders you can tilt the window through the opening and set it back in the opening from the outside and lean out throuht the openings and nail the flange after the window has be shimmed level and plumb. When you post pics I can tell you more.

harpo1313

can also rent some suction cup holders and grab some freinds with lrg forearms,angle it out the opening ,then right into place.the nailer strip needs to have the nails[roof nails]nailed in loose for some movement in dif climates.dont forget to stuff insulation in the cracks.

JamLazyAss

Ok, if I'm lucky, you'll be able to see a couple of pictures below...

The first picture is the window that I want to install. It's about eight feet wide and VERY heavy.


Here is a picture of where it is going to be installed, second floor above the porch.
I can put some plywood on the porch roof to help disburse the weight to allow a couple of guys to stand on it.
But I think the window should come through from the inside as Red mentioned?


The inside wall is open so I can start taking measurements to build the framework.
I'm open to all ideas that will help to make this a safe & sucessfull installation.
T.I.A.
Jack
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the Grump

I'd say the question is, are the joist for you porch strong enough to carry your weight. If so you could get more of the wavy pieces you use to put ON the corrugated plastic and put it on top, then some plywood like was mentioned before. Also, you're going to have to do that anyway. You're going to want to cover up the flange with trim once you are finished installing it. That style is great (easy) to install, the window kind of floats in the opening. Nail her fast, and a little foam, you'll be good to go.

jack5hd

to do it right you have to take off that  siding and then fram your opening and then set window and cut siding to window.put caulking on back side of nailin flange before you set window and also flash the wind up sides then the top over the sides...that window is relatively light .build a platform on top of porch.might have to re-inforce from below temporarly. j.k.

blindspot

I agree.  You've got to remove the siding and install it from the outside to do it right.  You could remove your interior wall coverings and frame the opening from the inside first if you wanted to.

If you bought it new, using foam will probably void the warranty.

Proper flashing is key.  With that much exposure, you're begging for water intrusion if you don't flash it properly. 
Aurora, Colorado, USA

kickstart

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The inside wall is open so I can start taking measurements to build the framework.
I'm open to all ideas that will help to make this a safe & sucessfull installation.
T.I.A.
Jack[/quote]

was that building built with trusses or conventionally framed ?
If it's trusses you will need an engineer to say how and where to cut them and repair the truss.
If conventional the engineer will have to specify the load bearing header over the window so it doesn't carry the roof and fail.
Do you need a permit ?
If you hire it done make sure they are licensed and insured - see it in writing before you let them start.
When they give you their insurance call the insurance company and make sure you are sent a copy of the coverage naming you as additionally insured.
If you don't do this, and the work fails or they cause damage to your home you will be stuck for the repairs yourself.
If they get hurt on your job and have no workers comp you can plan on paying ALL their medical bills and perhaps rehabilitation if necessary.

Your homeowners insurance does NOT cover you for hired help.

If you plan on doing it yourself get the instalation intructions from the manufactureer and follow them.
To tell you the truth from what you have said and asked you may not be competent enough to do this, especially on a second story limited acces situation
Good luck :sink:
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blindspot

If it's conventional framing, the gable end is not load-bearing.  Code wouldn't even require a header.

Most jurisdictions would require a permit if they have adopted a building code.
Aurora, Colorado, USA

apes

My guess is that it is conventional framing on the roof because if you were to put a window of that height  on a second floor you would be cutting into the bottom cord of any truss.  The outside walls ( where the rafters are resting )are the load bearing walls.  If  remember correctly, that eyebrow on the window will take some special considerations when framing so that the flange can catch a nail all the way around the window ( the paperwork that came with the window may even have a framing diagram for such special features) Someone will have to get on the porch roof to remove the siding and to trim the window anyway so it may be just easier to build a scaffolding over the plastic corrugated roof if you don't want to stand directly in it( even with plywood covering it)...... It looks like a fun project

truck

That window looks like it is too big to fit where you want it. Better check with Panzer to make sure it will fit. :hyst:
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surf


JamLazyAss

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specialx1

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surf

I'm thinking the porch roof is 2' higher than the floor upstairs. The window wants to be at least 4" higher than the porch roof, that's pushing the top of that window about 9 1/2' off the floor.

JamLazyAss

Surf, thats sounds about right. I have to firm up the measurements tomorrow.
Special, I knew you'd come through bud. Stop by and give a hand if you're in the area.
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surf

On second thought the porch roof is'nt that much higher than the floor. I did'nt take into consideration the depth of the floor joists first time around. Take your time and ask lots of questions. If you were closer I'd come over and help.