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Started by WhipLash96, September 19, 2023, 03:19:55 AM

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Hilly13

My take would be to do as Harp alluded to, CCP check it as it is now, then you can narrow down the options, might be just a better cam for "your" needs or cam and exhaust might be the go, do you have the cam events handy?
Just because its said don't make it so

harpwrench

Stock 110 heads are all over the place, mine were 92cc

WhipLash96

Quote from: harpwrench on September 23, 2023, 05:26:59 PMStock 110 heads are all over the place, mine were 92cc

I have been hearing this more and more. I'm glad that I have a virgin set of heads sitting around that I can use. I have the cam picked out that I'm going to use finally.
Thanks,
Whip

WhipLash96

Quote from: Hilly13 on September 23, 2023, 04:47:50 PMMy take would be to do as Harp alluded to, CCP check it as it is now, then you can narrow down the options, might be just a better cam for "your" needs or cam and exhaust might be the go, do you have the cam events handy?

Yes, this is a good idea. I'm going riding here shortly and when I get back and she cools down I'm checking the ccp. The bad thing is that I never did a ccp test when this engine was built. (My fault). But, based off my cam specs, I have an idea of where it should be.
Thanks,
Whip

WhipLash96

What's the formula to figure out chamber volume reduction when decking a head?

Someone told me that for every .001" the chamber volume is reduced by .157". Is this correct?
Thanks,
Whip

rigidthumper

Standard TC heads is about .006" deck per cc reduction.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

FSG

from quite a few years ago


WhipLash96

Thanks gentlemen. Just trying understand why certain numbers are being used.

I have some choices make that's for sure.

To give my current build more compression by shaving the heads? Or swapping cams and leaving heads alone?

Just based on those two choices, what would you do? (I haven't checked ccp yet as I just got home from riding).

Thanks,
Whip

Hilly13

I'd really like to know a few things Whip, what grind do you have in the engine now? what don't you like about how the engine performs now? what do you want it to perform like? and what your current CCP is? With those four bits of info you will get all the assistance you need from the good folk here.
Just because its said don't make it so

WhipLash96

Quote from: Hilly13 on October 02, 2023, 01:30:01 AMI'd really like to know a few things Whip, what grind do you have in the engine now? what don't you like about how the engine performs now? what do you want it to perform like? and what your current CCP is? With those four bits of info you will get all the assistance you need from the good folk here.

I need more squeeze and bang from this engine.
Thanks,
Whip

Coff 06

Personally,if you're somewhat happy. I would pull the heads and have them cut.A little more squish can make a night and day difference.
   Coff 06
06 FX Springer, 98",11/1,9B+4*,HPI 55/58 /5.3inj,HDSP Pro Street heads,123/118

Hossamania

My thoughts as well, horsepower is in the heads.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

WhipLash96

Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 10:10:29 AMPersonally,if you're somewhat happy. I would pull the heads and have them cut.A little more squish can make a night and day difference.
   Coff 06
I'm liking this option more and more. I'm glad that I a set of heads sitting around in case it doesn't work out.  :nix:
Thanks,
Whip

Coff 06

October 02, 2023, 05:34:27 PM #38 Last Edit: October 03, 2023, 01:07:07 PM by FSG
Quote from: WhipLash96 on October 02, 2023, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 10:10:29 AMPersonally,if you're somewhat happy. I would pull the heads and have them cut.A little more squish can make a night and day difference.
   Coff 06
I'm liking this option more and more. I'm glad that I a set of heads sitting around in case it doesn't work out.  :nix:

Only reason I say this is,I had a set done and only evened up the CCs to 85.
In the end I had another set done and cut to 82CCs.
It really was a night and day difference on the exact same build.
Unbelievable  :doh:      Coff 06
06 FX Springer, 98",11/1,9B+4*,HPI 55/58 /5.3inj,HDSP Pro Street heads,123/118

WhipLash96

October 02, 2023, 07:02:44 PM #39 Last Edit: October 03, 2023, 01:07:20 PM by FSG
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 05:34:27 PM
Quote from: WhipLash96 on October 02, 2023, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 10:10:29 AMPersonally,if you're somewhat happy. I would pull the heads and have them cut.A little more squish can make a night and day difference.
   Coff 06
I'm liking this option more and more. I'm glad that I a set of heads sitting around in case it doesn't work out.  :nix:

Only reason I say this is,I had a set done and only evened up the CCs to 85.
In the end I had another set done and cut to 82CCs.
It really was a night and day difference on the exact same build.
Unbelievable  :doh:      Coff 06

Right on. Once I get the ccp test done I'll know which way I'm going to go. Currently the heads I have on are at 90 cc's. I'm thinking if I get those down to 86-85 cc's this engine will hit much harder and make better use of my fuel.
Thanks,
Whip

FXDBI

Run your engine build info into big boyz calculator and do a compression test to compare the results. Take those results and make a better decision on cams and head chamber size and actual running compression with your cam choice. Take the guess out of what cam will do what then.  Bob

Coff 06

Mine are stock 06 heads (both sets) They start around 86-87cc.Also I run 10cc dome pistons .
Coff 06
06 FX Springer, 98",11/1,9B+4*,HPI 55/58 /5.3inj,HDSP Pro Street heads,123/118

WhipLash96

Quote from: FXDBI on October 02, 2023, 08:28:56 PMRun your engine build info into big boyz calculator and do a compression test to compare the results. Take those results and make a better decision on cams and head chamber size and actual running compression with your cam choice. Take the guess out of what cam will do what then.  Bob
That is my intention.
Thanks,
Whip

WhipLash96

Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 09:14:17 PMMine are stock 06 heads (both sets) They start around 86-87cc.Also I run 10cc dome pistons .
Coff 06

Race Bike?
Thanks,
Whip

Coff 06

October 03, 2023, 12:22:49 PM #44 Last Edit: October 03, 2023, 01:07:47 PM by FSG
Quote from: WhipLash96 on October 03, 2023, 08:35:52 AM
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 09:14:17 PMMine are stock 06 heads (both sets) They start around 86-87cc.Also I run 10cc dome pistons .
Coff 06

Race Bike?

Nope,just built to outrun my riding buddies.   :chop:     Coff 06
06 FX Springer, 98",11/1,9B+4*,HPI 55/58 /5.3inj,HDSP Pro Street heads,123/118

WhipLash96

Quote from: Coff 06 on October 03, 2023, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: WhipLash96 on October 03, 2023, 08:35:52 AM
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 09:14:17 PMMine are stock 06 heads (both sets) They start around 86-87cc.Also I run 10cc dome pistons .
Coff 06

Race Bike?

Nope,just built to outrun my riding buddies.   :chop:     Coff 06

Nice! I prefer to ride alone for the most part. Ride On!
Thanks,
Whip

Hossamania

Quote from: Coff 06 on October 03, 2023, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: WhipLash96 on October 03, 2023, 08:35:52 AM
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 02, 2023, 09:14:17 PMMine are stock 06 heads (both sets) They start around 86-87cc.Also I run 10cc dome pistons .
Coff 06

Race Bike?

Nope,just built to outrun my riding buddies.   :chop:     Coff 06

A proper goal
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.

Coff 06

October 03, 2023, 03:59:59 PM #47 Last Edit: October 03, 2023, 05:59:34 PM by Coff 06
When not going solo,I only have ONE tight brother I ride with.
Occasionally someone might join us        Coff 06

My bike is my signature line
06 FX Springer, 98",11/1,9B+4*,HPI 55/58 /5.3inj,HDSP Pro Street heads,123/118

WhipLash96

Quote from: Coff 06 on October 03, 2023, 03:59:59 PMWhen not going solo,I only have ONE tight brother I ride with.
Occasionally someone might join us        Coff 06

My bike is my signature line
Think I will have to change my tune by just adding compression?
Thanks,
Whip

Hossamania

Quote from: WhipLash96 on October 03, 2023, 06:05:51 PM
Quote from: Coff 06 on October 03, 2023, 03:59:59 PMWhen not going solo,I only have ONE tight brother I ride with.
Occasionally someone might join us        Coff 06

My bike is my signature line
Think I will have to change my tune by just adding compression?

I would.
If the government gives you everything you want,
it can take everything you have.