Just back from South Dakota....Whats the best quiet muffler set up for

[lonegoosehonking]

Was snooping and found this. Have a D&D on my road king. Anyone running these slip ons?



http://www.policeone.com/police-products/vehicles/motorcycles/press-releases/250567/

[ron1026]

Have the supermeg on my flht and the propipe on my dyna, supermeg wins hands down.

  Ron

[kdietz]

Was snooping and found this. Have a D&D on my road king. Anyone running these slip ons?



http://www.policeone.com/police-products/vehicles/motorcycles/press-releases/250567/

I used these a couple of years ago for a few months....I don't think they are what you are looking for....louder than advertised in my experience

[wavlovr1]

Fullsac cores - nice sound without all the noyze...

jb

[L-]

I really like the D&D pipes however I do not own them but would on a different bike other than a  dresser.  My vote is Supertrap 100%.

L- 

[Princess Butt]

I've run S&S SPO's, stock mufflers, Supertrapps, and the Kerker - SE's on stock crossover headpipes. Right now, the wife seems to like the Kerkers, but I'm finding them a bit loud.

The S&S's are really nice and mellow, they have a nice sound. Reminds me of muscle cars from the 1960's.

The Supertrapps are really good, you can adjust how loud they are by adding / subtracting discs. Very handy.

Stock mufflers are really nice if you're covering long distances.

Earplugs help, especially on very long days. Back when I would do 1,000 miles a day, earplugs made a huge difference.

BnEUC

[lonegoosehonking]

More info. A good read.

http://www.supertrapp.com/images/pdfs/Shootout.pdf

[ClassicRider2002]

Here are 2 very inexpensive potential solutions...
1st take out the baffle on the propipe and wrap 2 hose clamps around the baffle section closing off 2 rows of holes, ride it & see what you think.
2nd try to wrap the outer 1" edge of the propipe baffle with fiberglass muffler packing, Ive read of some that use SS pads that are used to strip floors from a buffer pad, supposed to last much longer.

05FLHTC~~~

I tried doing exactly as was stated above on my propipe for my 99 FXR2.  You are absolutely right about putting muffler packing in there....and it sounded a LOT QUIETER!!!! for about 10 miles BEFORE IT BLEW OUT THE PIPE.....tried it several times with different combinations of keeping it secured within the pipe.  You see the propipe does come with some packing when they are first purchased at the location of the end cap and it to burns out....I have also tried to take a hose clamp and block off some a few rows of holes as well....made no difference in sound.  

I wish there were something easy like this that could be done successfully.  Went to a honda dealership and purchased some fiberglass packing (the indys around me didn't carry this stuff) wrapped it around the baffel after pulling it out....secured it in several places with wire the first time, only to start the bike and go yes! yes! yes! it sounded so so so much more quiet....and I thought yep this is the ticket and it was only $12.00 or so.....but within 20 minutes of riding came back and it was all out of there.....blown completely out......next I went to a window glass company and even tried wrapping it with a metal type screening material.....once again for about 20 minutes I thought I was home free with a great solution....that stuff basically melted out of there.....I am tellin you there is some FORCE coming out of that pipe.....lol.  

IF SOMEONE could find something strong enough and yet small enough to keep the wrapping from being pushed through and have it tig welded around that baffle then maybe someone would be on to something.  

I know that someone in the past has shown photos of using a supertrapp end cap and installing the discs on to it as another solution but by the time you purchase the correct end cap for XXX amount of dollars and the discs and the closed cap and on and on whose to say you aren't really screwing up the reversion aspect of the pipe anyway.....that's why the baffeling material would seem to offer the best solution for "muffling" the sound......but I have as of yet (as well as another buddy who also owns an FXR3 with a pro pipe experiencing the same "loudness" issues) have been unable to figure out a proper working modification to quiet the pro pipe pipe down.  It seems V&H feels no compelling reason to offer a solution as they don't believe it's too loud as when I have called them about this topic they say.....hmmmmm first they have ever heard of someone saying the pipe is too loud....LOL...

Has anyone found a plausable solution to this with "solid" working results....for me I have pretty much given up on the topic with the pro pipe and have decided to move closer and closer to retro fitting a supermeg on to my FXR2 as well.  I certainly like the quietness it offers on my 2002 RKC and yet it has some nice sound with throttle.....but it's tame going down the highway for endless hours.

Regards,

"Classic"

[05FLHTC]

The best packing I found that held up best was from V&H. Contact Windy (562) 921-7461. She has been great to deal with over the years.

[ClassicRider2002]

The best packing I found that held up best was from V&H.

Thanks again for the "TIP" but the problem I see is KEEPING any packing around the baffle without it BLOWING OUT....that was entirely my point.....perhaps no one else has had the experiences that I described above that both my buddy and I had.

Regards,

"Classic"

[akcruz]

A bit spendy at $50.00 for this little insert/baffle from www.smartpartz.com but it works well traveling at highway speed. Not near as obnoxious as stock pro-pipe hs. This is on my 2000 dyna,95" se ac,geardrive andrews cams.Should be about the same on a bagger.

[dr. evil]

I run stock headpipes. I have run stock mufflers. Quietest. I have a pair of the D&D Police Interceptors. IMHO, they are louder than stock at idle and definitely louder while accelerating. Good tone while steady state cruising, not loud. Interestingly, I purchased them "used" from a Milwaukee Police Officer. I currently am running S&S SPO's. I like the SPO's.
However, I do wear ear plugs 99% of the time and would recommend you do so, too. I can ride with the SPO's without ear plugs but it is the wind/road noise that gets me. Protect your hearing. I ride an 07 FLHP with the 103. With windshield. Which reflects a lot of engine racket.

[ClassicRider2002]

A bit spendy at $50.00 for this little insert/baffle from www.smartpartz.com but it works well traveling at highway speed. Not near as obnoxious as stock pro-pipe hs. This is on my 2000 dyna,95" se ac,geardrive andrews cams.Should be about the same on a bagger.

CLICK HERE FOR LINK

akcruz~
Hmmmm this may just be the ticket for my application on my V&H HS Pro Pipe which is on my 99 FXR2.  So you felt it took the "sharpness" away from the sound of the Pro Pipe? ? ?   The concept appears to be using the same application that placing baffleing material around the baffle would be doing....except this obviously wouldn't "blow out" or "burn out".

So how long have you been running with this insert akcruz?  What do you feel it reduced the tone for you?  (I know this is a very subjective question).....just trying to get some feedback from an end user like yourself.

Thank you for placing the link and making it available.  Your dyna bike would be quite similar to my FXR as well. 

This is possibly a GREAT SOLUTION!!!!!  hmmmm $50.00 vs $600.00 for Super Trapp Supermeg.....doesn't seem spendy at all and comes with a guarantee that if one is not happy then one can return it for their money back....so if it doesn't reduce the tone enuogh as expected you can get your money back.  Reducing the tone enough is such a personable thing so it seems like a no risk alternative to me.

Regards,

"Classic"

[ClassicRider2002]

akcruz~

Well.....I went to the website, called smartpartz and spoke with a "Heather" about 10 minutes ago....she seemed versed enough to answer my questions....so I am spending roughly $57.00 to see if this will work for me and given that they provide a "money back guarantee" inclusive of your shipping charges to send it back if you don't like it heck one would only be out the shipping charges to orignally receive it which is very fair.  So I am going to give this a try.  IF it actually reduces the "sharpness" or "tone" of the V&H HS Pro Pipe 2-1 enough for me then that will be a HUGE savings over choosing to go to a Super Trapp 2-1 Supermeg exhaust in the amount of over $650.00.  I have always liked the pro-pipe just not the "huge" sound it makes.....so hopefully this will be enough sound "deadening" for me....keeping fingers crossed....I will post up my personal results.

Again thanks for this "TIP" it may prove to be a very valuable one! ! !

In looking at what they are trying to accomplish and discussing the merits of what they are after it seems quite plausable that this will provide a long term solution to the sound problems I have always experienced with this pipe......and from the descriptions and discussions I have had it seems there are no ill side affects to the engine as well.....which would of course be another plus.....so keeping fingers crossed....LOL!

Regards,

"Classic"

[akcruz]

Classic, I think and hope that you will be as pleasantly surprised as I was.Really liked the fit & finish of the system,just never cared for the sound or the loudness.Made a long day even longer.I already have severe ringing in my ears so at the end of the day I was pretty well whupped. Been in use about 4-5 months.(beginning of this season)Same time of install I also re-placed the stock stuffing with new.It comes in a small blanket and just cut strips wide as the original and wrapped it tight so its a snug fit when it goes back together.Seems to stay put so far.The old packing was mostly gone,as I've had this system on the bike about 8 yrs.and 40k. I also did the hose-clamp thing blocking off 2 rows of holes for good measure!Anyway it works for me.Really hope it does the job for you.Would like to hear your opinion after a few miles.Sound is such a subjective topic but interesting as it effects everyone differently. Kinda long,but I hope helpfull. Lynn

[ClassicRider2002]

Same time of install I also re-placed the stock stuffing with new.It comes in a small blanket and just cut strips wide as the original and wrapped it tight so its a snug fit when it goes back together.Seems to stay put so far.The old packing was mostly gone,as I've had this system on the bike about 8 yrs.and 40k.

akcruz~~

Thanks for the reply! ! !

So if I am understanding you correctly you contacted V&H and purchased their "oem" "blanket" of "stuffing" and then cut strips wide as the original..... Hmmm what would be the width of the "original" strips...lol as there was nothing left when I finally inspected mine last year after 4 seasons......

I would be interested to know if your packing/stuffing material is still there if you have checked recently.....given that you said you have ridden this season with the new smartpartz baffle inclusive of installing the new (V&H OEM Stuffing material I assume).  Any further clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

"Classic"

[vegaspete61]

Rush slip on with 1 3/4 baffle. Nice rumble but on the quiet side.

[akcruz]

Classic, just pulled the end cap off for a look-see.The packing is still in place like I installed it.Sorry I didn't explain this real well.The "rest of the story"? The fiberglass repacking kit is from Dennis Kirk,part# h44-4585 and yes this is V&H stuff on page 110 of their 2009 HD catalogue.On page 107 is a good pic of the standard baffle and where the wrapping goes. About 1 and a quarter inch wide and this cuts real easy with sissors and you have lots left over for next time or other projects,friends,etc! When I did mine, I wrapped it pretty tight and filled that inch and a quarter wide section and thats about it.Just packed it tight and slipped it back together and it seems to stay put so far.This and the smartpartz baffle certainly did the deed for me! Hope this works for you. If not,hey,its' all adjustable,right? When you gitter-dun tell me what you think. LYNN      Oh yeah, I only covered 1 row of holes with a hose-clamp,just for s&gs!!

[ron1026]

akcruz , classic , i'm a little mixed up following this thread, have you used the smartpartz baffle yet? and if so did it quiet the propipe down?  The loudness is starting to get to me, and not looking to spend the bucks for the supermeg, which I have on my flht and really like.

 Ron

[akcruz]

Ron                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes and yes,the combo worked well for me.Give it a shot,I think you'll be surprised in the difference of the sound level going down the road.       Lynn                                       

[ClassicRider2002]

akcruz , classic , i'm a little mixed up following this thread, have you used the smartpartz baffle yet? and if so did it quiet the propipe down?  The loudness is starting to get to me, and not looking to spend the bucks for the supermeg, which I have on my flht and really like.

Ron~

As for me, I just purchased the Smartpartz Baffle yesterday and waiting for it to show up which will fit my V&H HS 2-1 Pro Pipe that fits my 99 FXR2.  I have been dealing with the "harshness" tone of the Pro Pipe for 4 years now.....and thanks to akcruz, ie: Lynn I may have found a very nice solution.....some times HTT does save us money....LOL which would be a huge savings over having to purchase a Super Trapp 2-1 Supermeg for my FXR, LOL yeah about a $600.00 savings.  I am happy with the performance of the Pro Pipe just not happy with the "TONE"  perhaps a SOLUTION HAS BEEN FOUND! ! !  Keeping fingers crossed....LOL  By the way SmartPartz seems to be very nice to work with....heck they give you a 100% money back guarantee if you don't like the results so as I figure it I will only be out $7.00 if this "baffle" from them doesn't improve the sound enough to meet my expectations, NOT BAD!

......and akcruz thank you for taking a peek....I appreciate that!

Regards,

"Classic"

[ron1026]

The propipe is loud for me but I didn't realize how much until I put the supermeg on the flht, the supermeg is nice for both performance and lack of noise. Thanks for the info.

 Ron