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Anyone use wix filters?

Started by jerite, November 30, 2009, 06:21:09 PM

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jerite

Got a local supplier for WIX filters. Have drain back, appear to be top notch? Anyone using em?
TIA...
Jer
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02roadcling

No, but you are correct on quality. They make Napa Gold.
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GaryD

Use them in all my cars. Amsoil handles them and I get them at dealer cost.
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mark61

 :up:
Me! If they aren't avalible I wait instead of using the "unknown" HD branded filter.

mark61

hardtail84

I buy black filters at napa, the man there says that they are wix. I asked him about their chrome ones and he said they are supplied by amsoil. The last evo chrome one I bought there said made in taiwan or china, forget which.
It'll fit, just hit it harder!

flhpolice

I use WIX filter on my FLHS 94'. Cheap & works fine.

RainDodger

I've used them exclusively (Napa Gold = made by Wix) on all other vehicles for years. Good filters. On the HD I simply use factory filters. Why not? It lays to rest any thoughts that other filters MAY not meet HD specs of 5 micron filtration - whether it actually is or not, I won't argue, but if you have a $20K bike, why dick around buying other filters for it to save $2.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!

hotham

I too, have used NAPA gold in all the bikes and cars.  They are top rated by many research outfits.  All metal interior construction, as opposed to Fram that uses cardboard.  The highest rated filter is usually Purolator One, but they are hard to find.

panheaddreamer58

I have sold Wix filters for 17 years for autos , bikes and about everthing else and dont recall any problems. Wix has a great and easy web site you can find all kinds of info--    http://www.wixfilters.com/

Jim   :soda:

westbrs

Who makes oil filters for H.D.?

Norton Commando

Don't know who makes the H-D filters, but Wix should be a good alternative. Also, Mobil 1 makes a filter for an EVO that seems to work well.
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dunbarton

A lot of folks here say whatever filter they are using "seems to work OK". How do you know that short of having tests done on how effectively it cleans your oil?
Most of the tests I've seen over the years show Wix, K&N and the HD filters to be quite satisfactory so I would use any of them with confidence. Normally i just buy the HD ones in black (the fastest colour I'm told!) because I can buy at a decent price in quantity.

HVYMTL6

What about the micron rating? Harley is 5 micron, Wix is 21 :wink:

harleyjt

Quote from: Norton Commando on December 01, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
Don't know who makes the H-D filters, but Wix should be a good alternative. Also, Mobil 1 makes a filter for an EVO that seems to work well.

First, I don't think Mobil makes filters.  I'm 99.9% sure someone else is making them and branding them for Mobil.  Fleetguard, Champion, Honeywell are some of the manufacturers.  I'm sure there are others.

Second, you're not running an EVO filter on a Twin cam are you?  Not a good idea. Different filtration specs.  Twin Cam should use a 5 micron filter,  I think EVOs use a 10 micron filter iirc.

Here's just another area where the OE factory parts work fine.  We know it works fine.  Its what the manufacturer recommends.  We know the specs are right for the application.  Why use anything else?  Other than to get a nut on the end of the filter - which means nothing to me as I have a filter wrench that works just fine.

jt

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harleyjt

Quote from: HVYMTL6 on December 02, 2009, 06:16:10 AM
What about the micron rating? Harley is 5 micron, Wix is 21 :wink:

If the Wix is truly a 21 micron, I wouldn't touch it!  Its not the proper specification  (nowhere even close) - even if it does thread onto the engine and doesn't leak.
jt
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bubtrauma

I wish someone would clear this up. I was told By the S&S people that it is important to stick to the right micro size for the engine. So it is important to stick to the 5 micron size for thr EVO cuz if not it can backup oil and you could then have more oil in the sump causing more oil to be thrown out the breathers.

To me that makes sence. So, the more micron size the more apt the filter would go into by-pass not?

What do ya think. I am just trying to make sence of it all.

Bub

harleyjt

Quote from: bubtrauma on December 02, 2009, 07:56:12 AM
I wish someone would clear this up. I was told By the S&S people that it is important to stick to the right micro size for the engine. So it is important to stick to the 5 micron size for thr EVO cuz if not it can backup oil and you could then have more oil in the sump causing more oil to be thrown out the breathers.

To me that makes sence. So, the more micron size the more apt the filter would go into by-pass not?

What do ya think. I am just trying to make sence of it all.

Bub

No!  EVO doesn't use a 5 micron filter. I think the spec is 10 micron.  Twin Cams use the 5 micron.
jt
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Norton Commando

dunbarton hit the nail on the head; it's impossible to quantitatively evaluate oil filters without some extensive, and expensive, testing. Old Triumphs had no oil filter and I rode them for years with no apparent ill effects - so there you go! 
Remember, you can sleep in your car, but you can't drive your house.

Scramjet

#18
My 1975 XLCH had no oil filter.  It seemed to run fine.  Changed oil every 3,000 miles.  Ran in the high 12's in the quarter mile.  Took the heads and cylinders off every season to check things out.  No apparent ill effects.

That being said, Iron heads wore out cylinders, valves and more in about 25,000 miles.  The expectations are a lot higher these days.  Plus, I would rather have the security of knowing that if some component starts to self destruct the metal particles will stop at the oil filter and not circulate again and again through the engine.

Geez, I am drifting off topic.  I would run a Quality filter such as K&N or HD just because I do not have enough information to trust anything else.

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EagleFTE

Since it has an ADBV on it that would be the 51348 in black or 57348 in chrome.  Nominal 21 micron right off the spec sheet.  Good filters but not that impressive on efficiency.  Perfectly fine for cars and Evos.

Champion Labs makes HD, K&N, Mobil 1 and many others including Walmart Super Tech using various construction methods and media.  Wix cans the EaOs for Amsoil using Donaldson media but has not put a high efficiency media in the Wix / NAPA.

Evos have had problems with high efficiency (restrictive) filters.  You didn't tell us what kind of engine.

It's all up to the guy paying for the bike.  Use what you think is good for you.

fxstdavew

"Old Triumphs had no oil filter and I rode them for years with no apparent ill effects"
So doing a top end job at 20,000 miles as opposed to 150,000 is no ill effects?  I run a filter setup on my Bonnie.  Run the factory filter on the twin cams too many pieces of tensioner float around in the oil not to. On an Evo I'd run the Wix or equivalent .
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Dan89flstc

How does anyone know what the micron rating is for HD filters for the Twin Cam? Is it published somewhere?
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harleyjt

Quote from: Dan89flstc on December 04, 2009, 08:47:55 PM
How does anyone know what the micron rating is for HD filters for the Twin Cam? Is it published somewhere?

On the filter box.
jt
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scoopfraser

I'd like to know what the efficiency rating of the 5 micron H-D filter is.  Without this info. the 5 micron rating doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
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Dan89flstc

One more question, are the HD filters really made in China?
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1989 FLSTC, 2019 FLHT, 2022 FLHTCUTG