anyone look at the woods lifter at the show ?

[itsafatboy]

So was wondering about the woods morrel lifters ,  so what does full floating roller mean and how can they be directional or is this just marketing stuff. i am sure they are good just how $$ good 

[ThumperDeuce]

I just got off the phone with Bobby.  The lifters are scheduled to ship between the 15th and 20th of this month.  I did not want to ask him a lot of technical questions about the lifters because I probably wouldn't understand the answers enough to relay them here.  I did find out that they do not require travel limiters and that the pre-load /  installation instructions are included with the lifters and that the way they are designed (directional) they can only be inserted one way into the bore so that the oil hole is sure to align.  He said that there was a lot of interest at the show from engineers from Fueling, Harley and others.  He sold about 55 sets during the show.  I told him that there was a lot of interest here on HTT about the lifters and even though he doesn't usually post on boards like this he may respond here about the lifters,  we'll see.

[Tattoo]

I talked with Bobby at the show and he had sets on hand. I did see the oil hole was located higher in the body and they only can be installed one way.

[wfolarry]

Full floating means the axle turns as well.
Directional means they only have one flat so they can only go in one way.

[Herko]

Saw them. Asked and listened about them. Liked them. Looks like a nice product.
Ordered 2 sets to try.

[road-dawgs1]

Saw them. Asked and listened about them. Liked them. Looks like a nice product.
Ordered 2 sets to try.

Let us know what you think after you try them John.

[Herko]

Will do.

Just remembered, the total plunger travel reported was .196
And IIRC oil feed holes will be oriented fore and aft when installed.

[Hillside Motorcycle]

Bob had also made mention of the fact that on the higher lift cams, the lifter partially masks the feed hole. His do not. We too have several sets on order.
Scott

[hardyheadscom]

hope the holes in the  lifters don`t get above the case like the Jim's lifters did at one time....what a mess that was.

[Hillside Motorcycle]

I'm sure that is not the case.
JIM's?? Who are they?? If it is the JIM's that I think your refering to, no wonder that we do not recognize that name. We DO NOT use their products, as it is a musical chair/Simon Sez' game, with their warranties. They would have more respect, if they just came out and said that "none of our products carry any warranty whatsoever". At least that would alert everyone which side of the fence they are on.
Got that off my chest.
Scott

[pikeslayer]

Full floating means the axle turns as well.

What is the benefit of the floating axle?

[Herko]

"What is the benefit of the floating axle?"

The floating axle is allowed to rotate.
The needles of the bearing are not continuously pushing their highest stress loads in the same spot on the axle as in a stationary axle.

[tmwmoose]

So then how is the axle supported  and is this another wear area then?

[Herko]

"So then how is the axle supported  and is this another wear area then?"

As was explained to me the axle doesn't continuously rotate. Only slight rotation on occasion...(at start up was the example). The needle bearing in the roller will do the rotating under load and running conditions. The axle was held in place with small (wrist pin lock type) snap rings.

[Hillside Motorcycle]

The floating axle allows rotation and prevents flat spots, which is the culprit in axle failure.
Scott

[hardyheadscom]

"What is the benefit of the floating axle?"


something else to go wrong.

[hardyheadscom]

I'm sure that is not the case.
JIM's?? Who are they?? If it is the JIM's that I think your refering to, no wonder that we do not recognize that name. We DO NOT use their products, as it is a musical chair/Simon Sez' game, with their warranties. They would have more respect, if they just came out and said that "none of our products carry any warranty whatsoever". At least that would alert everyone which side of the fence they are on.
Got that off my chest.
Scott

i feel ya scott.....i have a set of cyls that have moved on a customers 116..i will see tomarrow how Denise treats me..i delivered the cyls personally and showed how a two year old 116 cyl should look vs  two month old cyl`s which leak from cyl migration...Gary is supposed to call me friday.....i`ll report back
larry

[Hillside Motorcycle]

I am so not sure, if I would pi$$ down the back of her neck, if her head was on fire.

[NCTURBOS]

Will do.

Just remembered, the total plunger travel reported was .196
And IIRC oil feed holes will be oriented fore and aft when installed.

What is the recommended preload?

Thanks,

K.

[BVHOG]

If these lifters are full floating and the pins rotate in the lifter body are the pins rotating in something other than the body itself, some type of bearing/bushing?

[hotroadking]

From Bobbys Web site Read more Here not that you'd learn anymore but
you get the marketing info..

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