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Started by Biker72, May 07, 2010, 11:36:32 PM

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easyricer

GREAT news Duke! Now git out there and eat some bugs!
EASY
Just ride the damned thing!

HotRodShovel

Sometimes life is like trying to share a sandwich with Rosie O'Donnell. 
John

76shuvlinoff


As to the  carb, when I ran an E carb I had a .295 for my 93"er.  I'd tend to agree that your .31 is too much for a 74. Try the .295 for a while and see how she runs. You might even want to look a .280 later.   Each bike is different, you'll know.

Mark
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

MikeL

Out of all the bikes I own 1 of them has an oil cooler my 1980 shovel. Was an oil cooler a factory install back then? I don't have a thermometer in the tank but I can tell she runs cool never a concern with heat blaring of of her.

                                                                       MIKE

catmcaw

  Mark
   You still happy with the CV?

rbonner

Back then the cooler came standard on the FXS Low Rider.  It was an option and you bought all the pieces separately for all other models.  Cooler chrome $89.95, black 69.95.  The cooler cover $9.75.  The thermostat $37.95 for chrome and 32.05 for black.

They put the cooler on the Low Rider along with highway pegs and sissy bar / stash bag plus two tone paint scheme and all the extra chrome for an extra $500 on the MSRP.

BOB
79 FXEF-80, 97 DSCC, 07 FLHT, 05 Chopper

76shuvlinoff


Quote from: catmcaw on Today at 02:51:38 PM

      Mark
       You still happy with the CV?



define happy  :hyst:

  A little coldblooded on a start after a week or so of sitting, doesn't seem to run with the big dogs as well as the E did. Overall no deal breakers and better manners where I ride 95% of the time. No stumbles bumbles or farts.  I keep thinking I'll tweak her then I do a risk assessment and leave her alone.  Sporty needle, 50 and 195 jetting.

  When I want to blast around and carve corners I saddle up on the FXDF and it's grins all the way. When I want to smell the roses,  take the wife to dinner or an ice cream with friends and have people come over and talk about some old bike out of their past we grab the shovel... and it's grins all the way.

I think I'm happy.   :up:

Mark
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

catmcaw

 
   The CV I have cranks and runs great, ain't no way I would ever go back to an E.
If a Mikuni kit for a Shpvel was not so $$$$$ I would like to give one a try. I have a Mikuni on my Evo and its been the best carb I ever owned.

rbonner

This is getting to be quite the thread, hahahaha.

Ya know.  I think all the carbs out there have pretty decent manners.  The Super E is a pretty basic carb.  Hit the jetting for where you live and it will behave well; its about as simple as they come, easy to fix.  The Mikunis are high tech for a carb and work like a watch.  The CV is a stock like replacement for the stockers which have aged but worked Ok when they were new.

I don't think you can really go wrong with any of those three replacement carbs.  IF YOU TUNE THEM FOR YOUR LO'CAL.  Even my E works good out of the box where I live.  Primarily because I'm within 700 feet of Viola's altitude.  Just bolt her on and tweak up the acc pump and I was ready to go.

BOB
79 FXEF-80, 97 DSCC, 07 FLHT, 05 Chopper

76shuvlinoff

QuoteThis is getting to be quite the thread, hahahaha.

Yeah who else but shovelheaders can take one guy's misery and turn it into a two week bs session on every other topic under the sun.

My Es have been good carbs, easy to work on and even I kept em running. I set two of em up exactly the same and they never ran exactly the same. I still have one as a back-up plan to this CV.  I dialed and diddled but never got TOTALLY rid of the slight stumble when wickin it from idle. With this CV that is gone. I think the mik is beyond my abilities and well beyond my needs anyhow.
I used to work on quarter million dollar industrial machines.  I am no carb/cam guru, I am barely qualified to hold the wrenches of a real gearhead. I can take the top end of my shovel down to the cases then put it back together and it'll run, I can change cams carbs etc... but won't touch a lawnmower. I put a cam in an 81 Monte Carlo years ago but prior to this old bike the last motor I pulled was out of a 69 Mach 1.  I'm just not wired for it so I come here.




Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

Biker72

#60
Yeah Mark I know what ya mean. I come here and everyone is talking about stuff I just can't wrap my head around. As bad as I want to learn stuff and as hard as I try I just can't get it. Like the timing for the life of me I can't seem to figure the TDC yadda yadda, same with adjusting the pushrods I read it in the manual 4 times and still don't comprehend the this ones up so adjust the other blah blah. Now if someone who knew what they were doin was to show me this is what it looks like I never forget.

But I keep diggin at it because one thing I have found out is when you work on these things and they are running like a top and your feet are on the pegs there's no better feeling.

Just for the record my motor is 80"

Later
Duke

catmcaw

   Sorry Duke, didn't mean to change the subject to carbs.  Looks like you have your heat problem under control.
   Bob, I agree with its all in the set-up/tune.

Biker72

Ain't bothering me it's all food for the brain. Yeah I think it's ironed out now runnin good other than a little rich but when it quits raining I'm gonna get that fixed.
Later
Duke

HotRodShovel

Its too bad you don't have a shovelhead pal around to go over stuff with you. Most things are simpler than you think, however some things do require the hands and mind of a pro (as there are plenty on this site) but I completely understand. I'm a visual guy myself. I learn best by watching. Just following someones words, as competent as they may be, can be difficult at times.

But you are doing the best thing by hanging in there and getting your hands on it. As time goes by you will learn more and more and before you know it, you will have become pretty damn proficient at working on your shovelhead yourself.

I'm glad your issue is all hammered out.


Sometimes life is like trying to share a sandwich with Rosie O'Donnell. 
John

catmcaw

 Both the E carbs I had on the Shovel always ran rich, didn't make any difference how I jetted or ajusted, the plugs were always black sooty.

rbonner

#65
Sounds like the Enrichener pulled too long.
79 FXEF-80, 97 DSCC, 07 FLHT, 05 Chopper

76shuvlinoff

Quote from: rbonner on May 23, 2010, 09:41:12 AM
Sounds like the Enrichener pulled too long.

Could be, I let my bike warm up one time with the enrichener pulled and it cost me a set of plugs. After that I warmed it with the throttle, still the same with this CV.
My plugs were generally sooty with the E but once I went a bit lighter with the enrichener and figured out a big heaping dose of accel pump was not my friend they ran gray, dark gray but gray. Always had some soot at the base of the threads though. Seems my jetting was .280 - 72 on this 93"er  Tempted to try the E again someday but I'm just not bored enough with this CV yet.
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

rbonner

Yeah I pull mine out and wrap a couple three twists on the throttle.  Crank it and when it fires pull it right back to 1500 for around 30 seconds tops.  Then I pull it back to 1200 while I get aimed out the driveway and then pull it back to 1000.  By the time I'm a block away I see if it will idle...  Usually by the light 1/2 mile from home its all the way off and I'm set.  BTW knock on wood, I have never fouled a plug with an E running it this way.

I'm sure my good multi-spark ignition also helps this too...
BOB
79 FXEF-80, 97 DSCC, 07 FLHT, 05 Chopper