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Started by 76shuvlinoff, August 15, 2010, 06:22:18 AM

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76shuvlinoff

 I put a pile of stuff in my "watch" list on the bay.  There are new take-off lowers and 4 piston calipers plus those tubes cat linked. My current lowers are chromed but that's not a deal breaker. I used AN fittings and braided lines for the current brakes so I have a source for that. Need to look up a 3/4 rear axle for the time being until I decide whether or not to go to a newer rim.  This isn't going hurt too much.

The discs are 10" ??   Sorry never paid attn to the newer parts before.

- Mark

Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

billbuilds

     Mark, They're 11-1/2". Careful though as 84-99 has a 2" hole for wheel flange whereas the 2000-10's have a 2-1/4" hole. Bill
Anybody who tries to tell you that the press is the enemy of the people is just that.

gryphon

Yes, as bill pointed out, if you're keeping your front wheel you will need the '84 thru '99 rotors. Since you will need rotors anyway, give some thought to a '00 and later front wheel. A lot of guys removed the stock laced front wheel in favor of custom stuff. It's pretty common to find them complete with rotors for a very good price. Often, not much more than you would pay for just a couple of new rotors. Your gonna like your new setup. There are so many times that we spend money on our bikes (sometimes LOTS of money) and end up not noticing any change. The word "upgrade" gets thrown around so much it barely means anything anymore. You will absolutely be pleased with the result of this upgrade though. If you have the bucks to spare, install the progressive spring kit, works very well. The kit will also allow you to drop the front end 1.5" if you need to.

catmcaw

Saw this rim/hub with stainless spokes  on Ebay (220641258335).

gryphon

I did a search (front wheel spoke*) and on the first page came up with this 180547183140 keep an eye on it. If you have to buy 11.5" rotors for your wheel your gonna pay anywhere from $100 and up with shipping. Heres a complete wheel. Finish the search. I only checked the first page.

76shuvlinoff

All duly noted gents.  thanks.

See I never would have know about the hub and rotor diameter differences until I was standing there scratching my azz going  :wtf: 

as mentioned before, see sig line.
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

76shuvlinoff

One 01 RK rim with rotors as been scored...
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

gryphon

That was a reasonable price for the wheel/rotor combo. Yu would have paid about that for just a cheap pair of rotors. It will make the conversion a little easier also. If you already had a decent set of the correct rotors I would have said "just adapt your wheel" but this works out good. Let me know if you want the sliders I have. shipping in a large flat rate box is around $15 and they're yousr for the shipping. They are almost new. One of them has one of the fender mounting holes rethreaded to 3/8" fine thread. This was a demonstration for my son. He had a stripped thread and I was showing him how you can almost always re-tap something to the next larger bolt size using the existing hole if you go to a fine thread. It's just fine and won't be any problem. It's a repair I've used many times over the years and have run them for years like that. I haven't acually seen them for a couple of months but I know pretty much where they are. I can also post any pictures yu might want showing brake fittings or what ever. Good luck.

76shuvlinoff

Yep gryphon I'm interested in those lowers. I sent you my ship-to in a pm. I can paypal your email addy.
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

gryphon

Ok. Give me a day or two to turn them up. I'm cleaning my storage right now so they should turn up pretty quick.

rbonner

Yeah Gryphon will find his, me if I still have any I lost the suckers in my move of 175 feet...  A week from now Gryf will find his and two weeks from now mine will show up somewhere I didn't expect them to be.  I already looked once....

Some day I will actually do an inventory and a cataloging of my parts.  Probably have half an Ultra in boxes somewhere back there.

BOB
79 FXEF-80, 97 DSCC, 07 FLHT, 05 Chopper

76shuvlinoff

 Ebayed a clean set of 00-07 calipers tonight, they come with the bolts, fittings, bleeders, and a set of lines (not sure if I can use the lines) ...no pads.

Stood by and watched a complete set of 07 RK fork assemblies "with zero miles"  roll up to $292.00 and still not hit reserve. The buy it now was $325.00.

This is almost fun.

Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

gryphon

Okay. I found one of the sliders (the left side). The other one was spotted more recently than this one so I'm sure it will turn up soon.

76shuvlinoff

good luck with that..  :hyst:

Gryphon,
I see a mechanical rear wheel speedo drive in JP for about $80. I assume this is left side. Kinda busy in there snaking it around the chain etc isn't it?  It says it comes with a 72" cable. I'm going to have to get a piece of string and check that out but it just sounds long from here.

- Mark
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

gryphon

Sounds about right for length. Mine could have been maybe 3 or 4 inches shorter to be perfect but it's really a non issue. My frame is about 1.5 to 2 inches longer than yours but you should be fine. Price sounds a little hight though. I think I paid under $50. I'll check into it. Also, soon as I have a chance I'll get a couple of photo's of my speedo setup at the wheel.

catmcaw

  Mark
  Have the parts you won on Ebay made their way to your home yet?
    Looks like tubes and brake lines are all you need.

76shuvlinoff

#41
 
Got the wheel with rotors, they need a little shining up but should be fine and I probably ought to get a new set of bearings just because.

The calipers came in with lines and look good but the the lines are not going to be close to making the reach to my master cyl. Since my mc is full of dot 5 I need to flush them thoroughly.

There is a road king 1" axle with spacers included coming my way.

I believe all that's left besides brake lines are tubes, sliders and oil. What weight oil and how much did you install in your tube assemblies?

At the same time I need to sort out a rear wheel drive or electronic speedo. I know I said I had all winter but now I am kind of excited about the change, at the moment I'm letting my paypal account recover.

.... Besides my pickup is in the shop getting a bunch of good old Michigan iron oxide cut off and a paint job. Merry Christmas to me.


- Mark
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

catmcaw

#42
  I have the speedo cable running off the rear wheel, wish the cable was a little shorter but it works well. My 6 speed has a place for an electronic sensor but I would like to find a electronic speedo that fits into a pre 96 dash.
  When you get to the point of putting your sliders and tubes together, I made a tool out of aluminum that makes the bushings and seal install easy and will not scratch anything. If you need it I will give/send it to you. Nothing fancy but it works.

gryphon

The guys I got my rear wheel drive from don't seem to offer it anymore. There's one on ebay that's sold by v-twin that's a 2:1 drive. Mine is a 2240:60  drive and it works well but there is a limited number of speedo's avialable with that ratio. Later today I can post a couple of pictures of my drive setup and the brake fittings. I'm also going to start cleaning my attic so I should find that right side slider. I know I have it, no question about it. I just haven't found it yet. One nice thing about a rear wheel drive is that gearing changes, overdrive gears, etc don't effect it. I checked the accuracy of mine against a GPS and found it to be accurate a 50, 60, 70, and 80 mph.

76shuvlinoff

As far as speedos go I have a 2:1 and a 1:1 in the basement and a 2240:60 on the bike right now going to the front wheel. Mine against gps is off 5mph regardless of the speed. (ie reads 60 and GPS says 55) probably a needle position issue. I am tempted to try to take it apart and correct it but then I'll probably mess it up real good.

Don't sweat the slider, I'm not going to tear into it right now and find something else I need then be down. If I get it together before the snow flys I'll get a test ride in.  I want to find something to polish up the rim spokes and rotors too. Rear end I wouldn't care too much but out front I want it to at least look cared for.

Might be interested in borrowing the tool or let me know the specs I'll make one.  Seals I've done but never bushings. Am I going to need new bushings?
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

gryphon

Bushings will come with your new tube assemblies. The bushing that installs in the slider (upper bushing) comes out when the forks are dis-assembled and is always replaced. They are a real non-issue to install. Some guys just buy a length of heavy pvc pipe and tap in in. I haven't had any problems with the bushings that come with the tube assemblies but never cared for the china seals. Go to HD and buy a pair of fork seals. You may want to order the seals ahead of time because so many dealers carry very few parts and never have the one you need. after the tube is assembled into the slider the upper bushing is slid down the tube and is tapped into the slider.

catmcaw

 If you order a set of tubes as mentioned above they come complete with springs seals ( but as Gryphon said get some Real HD seals) upper & lower bushings.  The upper bushings need to be pressed in after slider is attached. No big deal

76shuvlinoff

thanks guys,


Whenever this comes together I'm thinking I'll have a nice chromed single sided set of 41mm fork legs in the swap meet section.
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

76shuvlinoff

So the late assemblies are 41mm correct? Just want to confirm because tubes I'm watching are 41mm but when I look at sliders they just say "00 and up touring" BTW I saw a set of 2011 sliders that say they came off an ABS bike. Does ABS matter?

  Just checking before I pull another trigger.
Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors.
 - Ernest Hemingway

gryphon

The abs brakes use a slightly bigger rotor so I would guess that the mounts for the calipers are different. Also, now that I think about it, Im pretty sure the abs brakes use the Brembo calipers so they wouldn't work. I really do have a pair of sliders. In fact, I'm gonna go right now and look again for them.