Can a hub assembly be replaced on a Cast Wheel?

Started by Glide-Rider, November 27, 2010, 06:56:08 PM

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Glide-Rider

Evo160k,
Yes, I did look at their web site and they are on my call list for Monday.  Thanks for your help...
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.

FSG

QuoteYou could grind the head of the 3/8" screw down to fit the counterbore. I don't know if the height of the head would cause any problems though.
That's what I'd do, grind it down at home or get someone to put it in a lathe and turn it down.  The Height isn't a problem, the reason the Discs are counter bored is because the discs are/were used on the Narrow Glides and if the bolts weren't recessed then they would hit the sliders.  If you don't want to grind/turn the bolt head down then use washers to fill the counter bore so that once torqued the bolt head is slightly proud of the disc.   I don't see a problem with this, after all it's only one bolt.

Glide-Rider

Fatboy Sir Garfield.
Thanks for your help...
Pete
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.

Glide-Rider

I think I have it covered..  That is with ALL of you helping me on this project and Evo160k providing the web site.  I ordered from Time-Cert their "Big Serts Repair Kit."  I spoke to one of the Tech Guys and told him of my problem.  He said that is exactly what Big Serts were made for.  It is a larger in dynamiter Sert.  So when my little buddy tapped 3/8-16 instead of 5/16-18.  Just counter sink the hub hole, drill out the new incorrect threads and tap in the Big Sert 5/16-18 new threads.  Install the new Big Sert 5/16-18.  A little pricey but cheaper than purchasing a new or take off wheel.  Including shipping, $106.00  The kit includes: Counter Sunk tool, Drill, Tap, Installation Tool and 5 Big Serts.  I also ordered 5 more for just in case measures.  I told my wife not to let anyone in Garage if I am not present...  Also not to mention anything to his parents or to him.  He has enough problems and I know it was an accident.  I also suggested to him (privately) that he should give me a call before coming over, to see if we were home or not.  I will keep you informed to see how the Big Serts work out...     
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.

harleyjt

Quote from: Glide-Rider on November 29, 2010, 02:37:47 PM
I think I have it covered..  That is with ALL of you helping me on this project and Evo160k providing the web site.  I ordered from Time-Cert their "Big Serts Repair Kit."  I spoke to one of the Tech Guys and told him of my problem.  He said that is exactly what Big Serts were made for.  It is a larger in dynamiter Sert.  So when my little buddy tapped 3/8-16 instead of 5/16-18.  Just counter sink the hub hole, drill out the new incorrect threads and tap in the Big Sert 5/16-18 new threads.  Install the new Big Sert 5/16-18.  A little pricey but cheaper than purchasing a new or take off wheel.  Including shipping, $106.00  The kit includes: Counter Sunk tool, Drill, Tap, Installation Tool and 5 Big Serts.  I also ordered 5 more for just in case measures.  I told my wife not to let anyone in Garage if I am not present...  Also not to mention anything to his parents or to him.  He has enough problems and I know it was an accident.  I also suggested to him (privately) that he should give me a call before coming over, to see if we were home or not.  I will keep you informed to see how the Big Serts work out...   

Maybe he can help you (under direct supervision of course) install the serts when they come in.  Might help him feel better about things knowing he helped unscrew his screwup. 
jt
2017 Ultra Classic - Mysterious Red/Velocity Red

Glide-Rider

jt,
I am not willing to take that chance.  He is a good guy but with limits.  I am not an carpenter, I do not even know how to really read a tape, and that's OK.  Thank goodness for digital calipers.  I also would not try to rebuild my transmission.  I know my limits and try not to bite off more than I can chew.  I think he just needs a friend and maybe a little part time job.  He is in his late forty's, a little slow and lives with his parents. 
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.

Evo160K



Glide-Rider,
What length Big-Cert did they recommend?

Glide-Rider

There were only two length available in 5/16-18 .420 and .620 I took the longer of the two .620 the length of the bolt is 7/8"
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.

Evo160K



Glide-Rider,
I would have done the same.  My thinking is the closer to the original length threads in play the better even though the disc bolt is taking shear force rather than tensile.  With headbolts, some people overlook that you loose the tensile/clamping strength when you go back in with a shorter insert than the depth you drill out, even though the insert is larger in diameter.  When time-sert first introduced the harley headbolt kit, it didn't have 1" inserts, they were shorter.  Years ago I needed to put some into an 80" case, because I was increasing the power and was advised to do so.  After doing the math I realized those shorter inserts wouldn't have the thread surface area of the stock case/bolt.  I asked if they had any longer inserts and explained my reason.  It turned out they had a 1,000 left over from a customer's order.  I asked if they would substitute 10 of those in the kit instead, which they did.  I'd like to think that may be why the kit now has the 1" inserts.

Btw, that was very considerate the way you dealt with the little fellow, impressive.

Glide-Rider

Evo160k,
Thank you for your comment.  The Tech Guy talked so fast I had to ask him to slow down a bit.  I told him I have installed Perma Coils before and he mentioned it was similar but had to counter sink first.  He also mentioned about going a little deeper when drilling out threads.  I asked him for instructions to be sent with my order.  They said they would try to ship today but I never got a tracking number from them.  I will give them a call on Tues.  Thanks for all your assistance. 
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.

Big Dan

Quote from: Glide-Rider on November 29, 2010, 06:18:41 PMHe is a good guy but with limits...

...I think he just needs a friend and maybe a little part time job.  He is in his late forty's, a little slow and lives with his parents.

Now I know why Gramps speaks so highly of you.
Never follow the Hippo into the water.

Evo1

Quote from: Glide-Rider on November 29, 2010, 02:37:47 PM
I think I have it covered..  That is with ALL of you helping me on this project and Evo160k providing the web site.  I ordered from Time-Cert their "Big Serts Repair Kit."  I spoke to one of the Tech Guys and told him of my problem.  He said that is exactly what Big Serts were made for.  It is a larger in dynamiter Sert.  So when my little buddy tapped 3/8-16 instead of 5/16-18.  Just counter sink the hub hole, drill out the new incorrect threads and tap in the Big Sert 5/16-18 new threads.  Install the new Big Sert 5/16-18.  A little pricey but cheaper than purchasing a new or take off wheel.  Including shipping, $106.00  The kit includes: Counter Sunk tool, Drill, Tap, Installation Tool and 5 Big Serts.  I also ordered 5 more for just in case measures.  I told my wife not to let anyone in Garage if I am not present...  Also not to mention anything to his parents or to him.  He has enough problems and I know it was an accident.  I also suggested to him (privately) that he should give me a call before coming over, to see if we were home or not.  I will keep you informed to see how the Big Serts work out...   
Class Act :up: My hats off to you.

Glide-Rider

Big Dan,
Give that Old Fart Gramps a call or drop him off an email..  He has been down in the dumps since Hippo's death.  Gramps and I have logged many miles together and he is one of the finest individuals I know...  He is only using his mobile number now, got rid of his land line..  Like to get him back into the saddle again.  You should of seen the smiles on his face when Sailor, Gramps and I went for a ride when Sailor came for a visit this year.  Last time I saw him ride.  I think he is just tired of being sick..  Would really like to get his spirit up and going again..  Get him back to jumping in the Hill Country..  He loved going to Texas and misses it.   
Pete
Warner Springs Ca.