How bad does dyno beat up the bike ???

Started by sandrooney, June 22, 2011, 04:16:02 AM

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sandrooney

I am thinking of getting my 2010 SG tuned, but don't want to beat it up on the dyno.
How bad does a 4 hr dyno tune really beat up the bike ????

Thanks a lot for the help,
SR
Patience is such a waste of time .

Sc00ter

Quote from: sandrooney on June 22, 2011, 04:16:02 AM
I am thinking of getting my 2010 SG tuned, but don't want to beat it up on the dyno.
How bad does a 4 hr dyno tune really beat up the bike ????

Thanks a lot for the help,
SR

In the hands of a skilled, qualified tuner.....no more than a 4 hour ride...

Hillside Motorcycle

If your bike it getting "beat-up" on a dyno, go to another tuner.
Very controlled environment/monitoring, that is designed not to harm the bike, but to aid in the operation of it.
Scott
Otto Knowbetter sez, "Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut"

aharp

Not as bad as idling in traffic, at a railroad crossing or riding in 6th gear at 40mph.
Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?

BVHOG

Not sure where you would get the idea that a dyno beats them up, all running conditions can be monitored and controlled not to mention I have yet to have a deer pop out in front of me while on the dyno.
If you don't have a sense of humor you probably have no sense at all.

rbabos

TTS vtuning will beat it up more . I have no fear of a dyno any more in the hands of a good tuner.
Ron

sandrooney

Thanks thats what I wanted to hear. I have heard bikes being dyno tuned before and it just sounds like they are being pounded.
You guy's put my mind at ease.
Thanks a lot,
SR
Patience is such a waste of time .

HogBag

Riding the bike of the showroom floor running so lean with the EPA regs would do more damage than having a dyno tune or a Vtune. :pop:

lonewolf

 
Quote from: Hillsidecyclecom on June 22, 2011, 04:20:44 AM
If your bike it getting "beat-up" on a dyno, go to another tuner.
Very controlled environment/monitoring, that is designed not to harm the bike, but to aid in the operation of it.
Scott
:agree: Done right it is not hard on a bike but.......some videos I see on the net, well, run Forrest, run.

Rags722

Maybe a stupid question, but about 10 years ago, along with oil threads were the "dynos destroy rear tires" & "don't dyno a bike with a new tire" threads.  Were they all hot air, or did something change in Dyno technology that suddenly made dynos and rear tires friends?  Just asking cause I don't know any better.

SoonerSoftail

Quote from: sandrooney on June 22, 2011, 06:16:33 AM
Thanks thats what I wanted to hear. I have heard bikes being dyno tuned before and it just sounds like they are being pounded.
You guy's put my mind at ease.
Thanks a lot,
SR
You may be like me. I never rev past probably 3500 to 4000 rpm when the motor is perfecty capable of 5500. So to me on a dyno it sounds like engines are screaming but they're really not doing anything they weren't designed to do.

mrmike

I agree the key is to get a good tuner, not a guy that has a dyno.

FWIW If my  engine is going to come apart while being put through it's paces I'd much rather have it happen on a dyno then while I'm spanking the "Potty mouth" out of it on the road.

Mike
I'm not leaving til I have a good time

Rusty Steel

 :agree: I would have to agree with this last statement.
If it ain't broke... Fix it until it is.

Hossamania

I love the sound of a bike on the dyno, especially as it gets dialed in, it reaches max rpm's just a little quicker.
Also, it's not held at redline for any real amount of time, just brought to it and released.

sandrooney

I think I will do it. I will just leave while they are tuning it.
Thanks foe all the response,
SR
Patience is such a waste of time .

Rags722

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Quote from: sandrooney on June 23, 2011, 03:37:05 AM
I think I will do it. I will just leave while they are tuning it.
Thanks foe all the response,
SR

Oh man, that's like prepaying $400.00 for a dinner date with your special girl and then asking her to go alone. I want to be as close as they will let me to ask questions, see when they improve the curve, listen to it getting better with each pull, smell the fumes, etc.  Hell, some tuners would probably ask me to leave the shop, but I would like to think a really good tuner would be happy to show the owner what he is doing to improve how she runs..... well, maybe not on a daily basis, but every now and then.

hd06myway

If your bike's rev limiter has bene disconected or changed out for a diff. module, they still only rev the bikes up to 5500 RPMs, maybe 6k at the most, nothing to worry about or beaten there...

StreetKing

Now that everyone is talking about dyno's. Someome was telling me that you can get a good tune with stock head pipes but not a great tune. Due to the fact that there is the cross over pipe and not individual pipes like a 2 into 1 or true duals. they can't tune the back cylinder as well as the front. Is this correct?

rigidthumper

Quote from: StreetKing on June 23, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
Now that everyone is talking about dyno's. Someome was telling me that you can get a good tune with stock head pipes but not a great tune. Due to the fact that there is the cross over pipe and not individual pipes like a 2 into 1 or true duals. they can't tune the back cylinder as well as the front. Is this correct?

BS. On an injected bike, the rear cylinder still has it's own injector and timing table, which can be adjusted, just like the front.
Ignorance is bliss, and accuracy expensive. How much of either can you afford?

Nebraskarider1

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Quote from: rigidthumper on June 24, 2011, 04:55:18 AM
Quote from: StreetKing on June 23, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
Now that everyone is talking about dyno's. Someome was telling me that you can get a good tune with stock head pipes but not a great tune. Due to the fact that there is the cross over pipe and not individual pipes like a 2 into 1 or true duals. they can't tune the back cylinder as well as the front. Is this correct?

BS. On an injected bike, the rear cylinder still has it's own injector and timing table, which can be adjusted, just like the front.


I think what he was asking is whether or not with stock head pipes and crossover if they could get an accurate enough reading on each cylinders exhaust gas to map them individually, and accurately.

lonewolf

Quote from: Nebraskarider1 on June 24, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
I think what he was asking is whether or not with stock head pipes and crossover if they could get an accurate enough reading on each cylinders exhaust gas to map them individually, and accurately.
Easy enough if you know how.

maineultraclassic

Quote from: Rags722 on June 22, 2011, 08:04:28 AM
Maybe a stupid question, but about 10 years ago, along with oil threads were the "dynos destroy rear tires" & "don't dyno a bike with a new tire" threads.  Were they all hot air, or did something change in Dyno technology that suddenly made dynos and rear tires friends?  Just asking cause I don't know any better.

My tuner monitors the rear tire temp. and has a fan blowing directly on the rear tire to help cool it down.

The hardest part of a dyno tune is finding a skilled tuner who actually knows what he's doing.

Lucky for me Bean at www.bigboyzheadporting.com is only 1 hour away.

Steve
2005 Ultra Classic
95" Powered by Big Boyz,Woods,Doherty,TTS,Fatcat,Hillside TB

hrdtail78

A dyno is no more than a tool.  Who is using that tool makes all the difference in the world.  I screw driver is nothing more than a paint scrapper in the wrong hands.

I will not dyno a new tire.  Might be a myth, but I prefer a couple of heat cycles with them.  I look at it this way.  I loose a tire on the dyno, and screw up a $20,000 bike.  Just not worth it for my small shop.
Semper Fi

Rags722

Thank you Hrdtail78 and Maineultraclassic.  At least you confirmed my mind is not slipping gears and there is/was a potential for tire damage. Monitoring tire surface temp and fans sounds fine, but I would be more concerned with heat buildup right where the cords and the tread join. Wonder how many of those Metzler tire failures where they lose chunks of tread were on tires that ran through a dyno??

Rider57

Quote from: sandrooney on June 22, 2011, 04:16:02 AM
I am thinking of getting my 2010 SG tuned, but don't want to beat it up on the dyno.
How bad does a 4 hr dyno tune really beat up the bike ????

Thanks a lot for the help,
SR
You have that reversed! I have work on DynoJet and Superflow MC dynes for many years. Bikes beat the crap out of dynes!
107ci, 408b, 10:5:1, Heads by Wes Brown, Thunders.