Amsoil vs HD SE synthetic

[gbalmer]

Hi everyone,

This is my first post and would sure like some input.  Just bought a new Ultra and am approaching the 1K service.  A fellow Harley rider highly recommended Amsoil.  I checked with the dealer and they said that it would not void the warranty but that I would have to bring it myself as they do not stock it.  I have always used the SE oil and have never had any issues.  This friend said his bike runs a lot cooler and shifts quieter.  Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[sfmichael]

prob can't go wrong either way
Amsoil is good stuff

[War Horse]

OK its been raining all day and........ I feel the Amsoil is good stuff for the engine, got to pricey for me tho, now buy Mobil One V-Twin by the case from Amazon. For the tranny, I feel it (Amsoil) breaks down to quickly and am considering other options at this point, allot of speculation in here as to whats best, and it really depends on your bike, area, riding style , heat etc.

Stick with any approved oils and keep trying them until you find out what floats yer boat. 

[mkd]

amsoil is good but harder to find than mobil 1 v twin.either one in my opinion is better than syn 3 for the motor.i use spectro platinum 6 speed in the trans and spectro heavy duty chaincase oil in the primary of both bikes.

[Ohio HD]

OK its been raining all day and........ I feel the Amsoil is good stuff for the engine, got to pricey for me tho, now buy Mobil One V-Twin by the case from Amazon. For the tranny, I feel it (Amsoil) breaks down to quickly and am considering other options at this point, allot of speculation in here as to whats best, and it really depends on your bike, area, riding style , heat etc.

Stick with any approved oils and keep trying them until you find out what floats yer boat. 

I like the Mobile 1 V-Twin as well, check out O'reilly Auto parts some time. Price is $10.99 normally, when I can catch it on sale, $9.25, I'll stock up.

[War Horse]

Ohio, I just ordered a case of M1 V-Twin through Amazon (6 per case) at $60.00 with free shipping.

[Ohio HD]

That's not bad when you get the shipping thrown in. May have to look at Amazon, as O'reilly doesn't go on sale very often, and I like the oil.

[War Horse]

You just have to mark the free shipping column when checking out. Its ground 4 to 8 days and I wasnt in a hurry. 

[Ohio HD]

You just have to mark the free shipping column when checking out. Its ground 4 to 8 days and I wasnt in a hurry. 

Cool, thanks for the tip. I have enough for a couple of oil changes right now, but will order some when I do the next change, and use up a few.

[wakedl]

My understanding is the V-Twin oil is for bikes that share motor and clutch oil - think metrics & clutch slip.  Harleys dont do that so the reg Mobil 1 15w50 is what I use - $26 per 5 quart jug aval at walmart.

[Ohio HD]

I've used the 15W50 as well, it's good oil, I just think the V-twin holds up better, motor sounds quieter and tighter.

[gbalmer]

Thanks for all the input!  I just didn't want to do any harm to a new bike!

[dakota224]

This stuff is really good also  http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-679082-Synthetic-Racing-Formula/dp/B002ZSM2EM/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&qid=1342056431&sr=8-32&keywords=motorcycle+20w50+oil

[Bolo Ocho]

All right, an oil thread  . I was just contemplating posting something about oil, Syn 3 vs HD 360 vs VR1 valvoline dead dino, actually, although I'll gleefully weigh in on Mobil 1  . About the HD oils vs VR1- just got a "courtesy" oil change at the dealership- asked for HD 360 so I could try, have tried the Syn 3 in the past. With the HD oils, there are always some air bubbles on the dipstick; never have seen the bubbles with the VR1, nor with the Torco the OL uses ( she can afford the good stuff  ): me no like the bubbles- speaks of cavitation ( OK, probably spent too much time reading threads at Bob is the Oil Guy) and inferior base stocks  . Mobil 1, ain't tried in my HD, but my Vulcan did not like it, quieter with Rotella T6 in the winter and any good HDEO in the summer; wrench at Kawa dealership didn't like the Mobil either,  on the T6 from him. Amway oil, rather spend that kind of green on Torco. But my Twinky is quieter with the VR1 dead dino, in fact goin' go get some on 'morrow and dump the HD stuff 

[Bolo Ocho]

This stuff is really good also  http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-679082-Synthetic-Racing-Formula/dp/B002ZSM2EM/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&qid=1342056431&sr=8-32&keywords=motorcycle+20w50+oil

Yeah, it is dang good stuff, cool blue color too- it's only $8.49 a quart at the O'Rielly's by my house- bit more than Amazon after tax- but convenient ( Dino is only $5.99, and they make it in 50&60 weights for really hot weather )

[Sonny S.]

>>>For the tranny, I feel it (Amsoil) breaks down to quickly <<<

Based on ??
I use the 75/110 and have had no problems.   

[hogpipes1]

Hi everyone,

This is my first post and would sure like some input.  Just bought a new Ultra and am approaching the 1K service.  A fellow Harley rider highly recommended Amsoil.  I checked with the dealer and they said that it would not void the warranty but that I would have to bring it myself as they do not stock it.  I have always used the SE oil and have never had any issues.  This friend said his bike runs a lot cooler and shifts quieter.  Any thought       Your Friend

[Golfman]

Crankcase - Mobil 1 V-Twin 20-50
Trans. - Redline V-Twin Trans. oil or Redline Shockproof Heavy
Primary - H-D Formula Plus

[Nebraskarider1]

I know the syn3 isn't popular here but I just got a report back from Blackstone on my last oil change with 5500 miles on it and it was holding up very well, they told me they wouldn't be afraid to go 7500 based on how it tested at 5500. I doubt I'll do that but its good to know how it is holding up in the summer heat. If anyone is interested in the test results I can post them if I can figure out how to get my info off the pdf file since I don't have a full version of adobe.

[codyshop]

Unless things have changed, all HD lubricants are made by Citco which is a Venezuelan (Hugo Chavez) owned conglomerate.   You're basically sending money to that Commie POS.

[Bolo Ocho]

Decided changing the oil was better than sitting on me arse, went to O'Rielly's, raised price on synthetic VR1 to $9.29. And sure enuff, the "courtesy" HD 360: lots of bubbles in the drain pan  . Put in the VR1 50W dino for this hot weather- went for ride, no bubbles on the dipstick  . 

[War Horse]

>>>For the tranny, I feel it (Amsoil) breaks down to quickly <<<

Based on ??
I use the 75/110 and have had no problems.   

Based on my bike........ 3rd gear is usually the indicater for me, with the 75-110 it starts to get grindy/clunky (yeah, I know great technical terms) at around 1K miles, with the 75-140 it will last close to 2K. Runing the same oils in the engine and primary. Been going through this for some years now. I would try the Redline SP heavy, but cant find it localy and 20 bucks a quart on line is nuts.

[Deye76]

Friggin petroleum products have gone nuts. I stay away from oil threads, but thought I could help here. My last batch of Redline 20-60w was 11.63 qt delivered, now about $2.50qt more. Still not $20.00 though. Last gallon of Redline heavy shockproof was $49.00.
WarHorse try racerpartswholesale.com they have Redline for $13.95qt. I know it's pricey, but if you want to run Redline, best deal I've found.

[slypig]

Well I thought I was done reading oil posts but now bubbles in the oil.  What  does that indicate?

[War Horse]

Deye, thanks, but with shipping it still comes to about 20 bucks.


Slypig, aeration of thick oil forms bubbles. Or better put cavitation.