S&S 126" Dyna build.

[dynaglide]

you can have your cake and eat it, too... 

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[Merc63]

Bandit clutch is in.  Grey springs with 5 shims. 

Lever pull is pretty damn hard. 

[IronMike113]

I have the same clutch 5 shims same springs a lot say pulls like stock my ass, Hard as hell my is on a 131 ci but it work's but not like stock it need's to hook up at a early rpm not the lock up point of 3000 plus way to late in my book.When your hitting 150 plus TQ at that RPM,Just my thinking

[HogBag]

Merc63
Man I cant wait to see this baby fire up. These will help the dyna frame with 150 square on tap.

http://www.sputhe.com/aluminum%20swing%20arms.htm

[Merc63]

I have the same clutch 5 shims same springs a lot say pulls like stock my ass, Hard as hell my is on a 131 ci but it work's but not like stock it need's to hook up at a early rpm not the lock up point of 3000 plus way to late in my book.When your hitting 150 plus TQ at that RPM,Just my thinking

Ya it's wayyyy harder pull than what I had.  My GF can't even budge the lever lol.  She had to use two hands.  Maybe I should have went for something witha lockup...  It will be good for wheelies though.

What do you mean, it grabs at 3000rpm??

[pwmorris]

I have the same clutch 5 shims same springs a lot say pulls like stock my ass, Hard as hell my is on a 131 ci but it work's but not like stock it need's to hook up at a early rpm not the lock up point of 3000 plus way to late in my book.When your hitting 150 plus TQ at that RPM,Just my thinking

Ya it's wayyyy harder pull than what I had.  My GF can't even budge the lever lol.  She had to use two hands.  Maybe I should have went for something witha lockup...  It will be good for wheelies though.

What do you mean, it grabs at 3000rpm??

Is that just a Sportsman or a Superclutch?
Put a lock up hat on it and get rid of those grey springs-
John at Bandit can get you a simple 3 finger-you don't have to go with a MTC multistage or anything complicated.
Don't buy the hype that you need the 150 ft lbs as soon as you dump the clutch-all it will do is make you wheelstand or your rear tire will spin all day. Who cares if it slips out of the hole? You ain't luggin' a gun totin' mama on back of a fully dressed bagger, fully loaded, headin' out of town or motor testin' all day on the dyno (even if you are, I have put the stiffer springs in my clutches when dyno testing which works great)...
Clutch slip is your friend...clutch slip when I dump my street clutch is one of my tricks to own the guy next to me who spins his rear tire and gets left behind

[Merc63]

I believe it's a sportsman.

What's the difference?

[pwmorris]

I believe it's a sportsman.

What's the difference?

Since you have a sportsman, it looks like it doesn't accept a lockup hat. Looks like you have to run what you got, unless you can exchange it-
I ran the whole Superclutch set up, with a 3 finger single stage hat on my Bandit set up several years ago-
200 hp no problem but it won't fit under a stock primary, so you have to either mod the derby cover (see pic) or get a nice billet one from Barnett for 1K.
If you can exchange what you have, I would go with a complete Superclutch with lock up, or Barnetts lock up clutch that fits under the stock derby cover (see GMR's write up on it in the Twin Cam section), the Rivera Pro with AIM's adjustable lock up hat on it (which also fits under the stock cover with a minor mod), Or you are going to have to live with that Gorilla clutch pull and learn to finesse the clutch lever out of the hole. It can be done with practice but it's easy to smoke the pack when you repeatedly do that.
SPORTSMAN SERIES
Retains stock shell, sprocket, and bearing. Includes center hub, snap ring and clutch pack (including - (1) thick steel backing plate, ( thin steel driven plates and (9) Kevlar friction plates, pressure plate assembly, adjusting screw with lock nut, mainshaft nut, (6) spring cups, (6) standard springs, (6) heavy duty springs, (6) spring collars and (6) spring nuts). Ready to install. Will not accept lockup.


COMPLETE SUPERCLUTCH   Chain primary drive only. Includes clutch shell with ring gear and sprocket, (12) drive keys with hardware, center hub, sealed double row bearing, snap rings, mainshaft nut and clutch pack (including - (1) thick steel backing plate, (10) thin steel driven plates, (9) friction plates of your choice, pressure plate assembly, adjusting screw with lock nut, (6) spring cups, (6) standard springs and (6) heavy duty springs, (6) spring collars, and (6) spring nuts). Some assembly required. Some clearance modifications to the inner primary case and primary cover are required. Will accept but does not include a lockup unit. Installation of a lockup requires longer studs in the center hub - please specify when ordering clutch. Lockup will not fit in stock primary case.


BANDIT SUPERCLUTCH W/3 FINGER HAT


MODDED PRIMARY COVER TO ACCEPT LOCK UP


BARNETT BILLET COVER

[Merc63]

Ill run it for now and see how it goes.

Back in the garage today. Hopefully I can fire it up, I pray sll the efi wiring is correct.

[pwmorris]

Good luck-
You have one of the baddest street/strip Vtwin crate motors on the planet-It needs all the support items around it to really shine-

[Merc63]

Thank you sir, you have been a great help.

[Barrett]

I'm sure glad you guys don't live in my neck of the woods..

[Merc63]

Well I got the bike started.  The front o2 is reading really lean, 19afr.  I'm not sure if its because my bro mounted it with the sensor pointing up with it angled with the exhaust flow...

I tried switching the sensors around and also the fuel injectors.  Nothing seemed to help.

As I look over the data log, I seen the pulse widths of the injectors pretty close to each other, the front being slightly higher.  So it doesn't make sense why it would be running lean in the front if they are both getting the same fuel pulses..

I'm going to remove the exhaust and change the front o2 location and see if that helps.


I have to get the muffler for this thing, it's ridiculously loud.  When it first fired up it nearly broke my ear drums, they are still ringing.

I definitely have a huge learning curve ahead of me with this DTT system.

[Merc63]

A link to the video.

[Merc63]

I got a new starter and all my starting issues have been resolved, thank God.

Ive been trouble shooting an issue with the WEGO and TCFI telling me the front cyl is running lean. I hooked up a secondary standalone AFR monitor and the front jub is running in tune with the rear. I believe either the WEGO or the ECM isn't reading the signal properly.  Im going to exchange one or both.

I have the TPS and IAC adjusted good and the bike starts and idles nicely in open loop, which is a relief.  Oil pressure is good at around 25-30lbs at idle.  No leaks and everything else looks good so far.

My tuner wants to tune the bike and shut the closed loop feedback down, but others are saying this is not a good idea... anyone else have experience with this?

[Merc63]

Took the bike out for a spin, trying to get a few clicks on it before tuning on wednesday.

my wego is faulty so I turned off closed loop and tried to get a decent enough map to ride it around a bit and break it in.

The tune is no where close to optimal, but it pulls damn hard, I could barely stay on the seat.

the bandit clutch with grey springs and 5 shims grabs nice and hard.  After riding it a bit, the pull isnt as bad as I first thought.  Its firm but not too much.

the burns stainless exhaust is just stupid loud.  Kids on the sidewalk were rushing to cover their ears when I came by.  Lots of ppl staring, wondering what's making all the noise.  Ill probably end up getting the megaphone with the baffle for the street and keep the other one for the track.

If everything goes smooth at tuning, I should be able to hit the track this friday night. Cant wait.

[Ohio HD]

Good deal! Been a long time coming for you.   

[ThumperDeuce]

Took the bike out for a spin, trying to get a few clicks on it before tuning on wednesday.

my wego is faulty so I turned off closed loop and tried to get a decent enough map to ride it around a bit and break it in.

The tune is no where close to optimal, but it pulls damn hard, I could barely stay on the seat.

the bandit clutch with grey springs and 5 shims grabs nice and hard.  After riding it a bit, the pull isnt as bad as I first thought.  Its firm but not too much.

the burns stainless exhaust is just stupid loud.  Kids on the sidewalk were rushing to cover their ears when I came by.  Lots of ppl staring, wondering what's making all the noise.  Ill probably end up getting the megaphone with the baffle for the street and keep the other one for the track.

If everything goes smooth at tuning, I should be able to hit the track this friday night. Cant wait.

Is the current megaphone you made un-baffled?

[Merc63]

Yep it's an unbaffled straight pipe and it's LOUD.  It rings my head in my full face helmet.

[Merc63]

Good deal! Been a long time coming for you.   

Yep, it's been awhile!  Glad it's finally running.

[HogBag]

Very nice
It sounds great with the megaphone but way to loud for the road. I bet it would break windows at WOT and set of every car allarm in a two block radius at half throttle.
Thanks for the video 

[sfmichael]

    

[HD/Wrench]

Try a Barnett clutch cable its good to reduce some of the lever pull .. double liner cable cheap and works great.

[tommy g]

Good luck Merc, who is going to tune it for you?

[Buffalo]

  Glad to see and "HEAR" (maybe) you got that sweet 126 fired up.
Now be honest, did you really think at any time this monster engine with a pro street styled pipe would be quiet!!!!!!!! hehe. Good job Merc. Get a muffler, get 'er tuned. Buffalo