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Started by tomcat64, March 11, 2013, 06:29:17 AM

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Snuff™

Here those pics we've been waiting for!  :bike:





Every day, I'm one day closer...  WTF!  I'm not near 70 yrs. old!

ThumperDeuce

Idiots are fun, no wonder every village wants one.

truck

It looks good :up:
Question..When did Harley go to a right side shift?
My dad's bike shifted on the left.
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Listen to the jingle the rumble and the roar.

kd

Very nice Tom. It's in good hands now.
KD

Ultrashovel

#29
The right side shift was combined with a left-hand throttle on Servicars ordered from the factory for machines that were used for parking enforcement. They would be in low gear mostly and would ride slowly along a line of cars. The left hand throttle freed up the right hand to mark the left rear tire on the cars with a chalk stick. Some parking spots were free but were marked only one hour or two hours, etc. If the officer marked your tire and came back after one or two hours and you were still there, you got a ticket.

I notice that this machine has the early Sportster FX front fork. That was the same as the very first FXS in 1971, sometimes called "The Night Train". That bike had the boat tail seat mount. Those came off the very first thing. LOL.


truck

Listen to the jingle the rumble and the roar.

tomcat64

ultrashovel you are 100% correct, this one has been coverted back to right side throttle and i think i'm gonna put it back on the left. i'm not sure when the front end was replaced,, but i will find a correct front end.. plus with the narrow forks it actually turns too short, i can almost get the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

Ultrashovel

Quote from: tomcat64 on April 19, 2013, 11:46:42 AM
ultrashovel you are 100% correct, this one has been coverted back to right side throttle and i think i'm gonna put it back on the left. i'm not sure when the front end was replaced,, but i will find a correct front end.. plus with the narrow forks it actually turns too short, i can almost get the wheel perpendicular to the frame...

Hi,
I believe that the fork tubes are longer on the FX front end than on the original tube wide glide forks that were probably on that machine. I recall that they had black painted metal and sliders with the large brake drum cover, also in black.

Those forks may affect your handling with regard to different rake and trail, although you would have to measure it to be sure.

That machine is so nice that I would certainly look for the parts to make an original setup. The only difference might be in the diameter of the spindle that goes through the frame - also a smaller hole in the upper tree. This could be fixed with some welding and a bushing or two if you can't find an original. You already have the spindle and bearings. The tins are probably similar to late model Electraglide or Fat Boy and those are all over the place. You could strip the chrome and powder coat them for a beautiful match.

Nice machine!

Hogman

WOW! You Gotta Be Kidding, That Servi, for That Amount of Coin? WOW Brother, TOO Much! That's GOTTA Be a Keeper! (Yeah, I'm a Little Jealous, envious, or whatever... LOL) Congrats on a GREAT Purchase Tom!
Hogman

tomcat64

Quote from: Hogman on April 20, 2013, 06:00:24 AM
WOW! You Gotta Be Kidding, That Servi, for That Amount of Coin? WOW Brother, TOO Much! That's GOTTA Be a Keeper! (Yeah, I'm a Little Jealous, envious, or whatever... LOL) Congrats on a GREAT Purchase Tom!

i know.. RIGHT!! every once and a while you get lucky!! this thing runs like a champ, all the gears work,  now i need the snow to melt and i can get it out on the road, a=so far all i have done is ride it around in our shop! i think the old guys at my local VFW are gonna love it! :beer:

Ultrashovel

Quote from: tomcat64 on April 20, 2013, 07:53:28 AM
Quote from: Hogman on April 20, 2013, 06:00:24 AM
WOW! You Gotta Be Kidding, That Servi, for That Amount of Coin? WOW Brother, TOO Much! That's GOTTA Be a Keeper! (Yeah, I'm a Little Jealous, envious, or whatever... LOL) Congrats on a GREAT Purchase Tom!

i know.. RIGHT!! every once and a while you get lucky!! this thing runs like a champ, all the gears work,  now i need the snow to melt and i can get it out on the road, a=so far all i have done is ride it around in our shop! i think the old guys at my local VFW are gonna love it! :beer:

The Harley 45" Model G was really a tough little engine. They really don't need any special oil other than a heavy grade. Harley used to sell 50 wt. for winter and 70 wt. for summer. That was long before that funny synthetic stuff.

When I was but a mere child in Chicago, the Chicago PD used these for everything from parking enforcement to chasing speeders! Fortunately, they were rather slow. A stock solo 45" bike could reach 65 mph on a good day so the Servicars with their added weight were somewhat slower. I guess the speeders would stop when they saw the red lights because the cops weren't going to catch them on a Servicar.

ThumperDeuce

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Idiots are fun, no wonder every village wants one.

clay_mover

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I'd rather be Judged by Twelve than Carried by Six!

Davedeluxe

Hey Tom,
No fair fixing that gem up AT THE DEALERSHIP! :hyst: :hyst:
2008 FLSTN w/124". 2016 FLHTCU w/127". Both by Razorback Performance

WML57

Might be wrong, but is that an alternator hanging in front? Looks a little big to be a generator.

HogBag


tracerbob

Wow is right.  You must be living right.  I wish my Servi was half that nice.  Enjoy it!

Ultrashovel

#42
Quote from: WML57 on April 20, 2013, 11:47:13 AM
Might be wrong, but is that an alternator hanging in front? Looks a little big to be a generator.

The later models were fitted with alternators. They were useful for police work since the trikes spent a great deal of time running slow and idling. There was also an accessory electric starter that was available towards the end of the model run in the 1970's.

Notice in the picture of the two Servi-cars above that one has a left-hand shift and the other is right-hand. They also had the large "Hydra-Glide' front ends, one in black and one in chrome or stainless. Note also, the disc brakes on the front. Those are very late builds.

Rags722

Tom,  it is a beauty, and for the price there is no way you could walk past it.    By the way, I took one look and had a craving for an Ice Pop.  Can't imagine why.

tomcat64

Quote from: Ultrashovel on April 20, 2013, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: WML57 on April 20, 2013, 11:47:13 AM
Might be wrong, but is that an alternator hanging in front? Looks a little big to be a generator.

The later models were fitted with alternators. They were useful for police work since the trikes spent a great deal of time running slow and idling. There was also an accessory electric starter that was available towards the end of the model run in the 1970's.

Notice in the picture of the two Servi-cars above that one has a left-hand shift and the other is right-hand. They also had the large "Hydra-Glide' front ends, one in black and one in chrome or stainless. Note also, the disc brakes on the front. Those are very late builds.

actually according to the book "the legend begins" the 1964 GE was sold with electric start, the base price was $78.00 more than the 1963 model,, i'm guessing the alternator appeared with the advent of the elecric start,, so it looks like the answer to the trivia question, "what year was electric start introduced for HD's" is 1964...

Ultrashovel

Quote from: tomcat64 on April 22, 2013, 06:20:41 AM
Quote from: Ultrashovel on April 20, 2013, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: WML57 on April 20, 2013, 11:47:13 AM
Might be wrong, but is that an alternator hanging in front? Looks a little big to be a generator.

The later models were fitted with alternators. They were useful for police work since the trikes spent a great deal of time running slow and idling. There was also an accessory electric starter that was available towards the end of the model run in the 1970's.

Notice in the picture of the two Servi-cars above that one has a left-hand shift and the other is right-hand. They also had the large "Hydra-Glide' front ends, one in black and one in chrome or stainless. Note also, the disc brakes on the front. Those are very late builds.

actually according to the book "the legend begins" the 1964 GE was sold with electric start, the base price was $78.00 more than the 1963 model,, i'm guessing the alternator appeared with the advent of the elecric start,, so it looks like the answer to the trivia question, "what year was electric start introduced for HD's" is 1964...

AFAIK, the electric start was always an accessory. But, of course, if someone put a fact in a book, well, it must be true. LOL.


tomcat64

Quote from: Davedeluxe on April 20, 2013, 09:33:29 AM
Hey Tom,
No fair fixing that gem up AT THE DEALERSHIP! :hyst: :hyst:

LOL,, like any of the techs here have seen one of these... no place to plug in the digi-tech. maybe i should put it on the dyno and she what she will do!!! :chop:

77stroker

 :scoot:had one back in the eightys you can put a set of k model sporty heads and mukuni carb top speed improved from about fifty up to seventy  :bike:

Speeding Big Twin

The picture below is from page 172 of The Legend Begins and is said to be of a 1964 model. Notice it also says the first electric starter H-D. Notice the machine has a generator, not an alternator. Although Legend has no pictures of Servi-Cars later than the one I posted the book records an alternator as standard equipment for 1966–69. (The book finishes with 1969 models.) No doubt the alternator was also used for 1970-later models.




Ultrashovel, you said there was an accessory electric starter that was available towards the end of the model run in the 1970s but your statement is in direct conflict with the above picture. Please explain what your opinion was based on. What makes you think the electric starter was not there right from the beginning (as of the 1964 models)? You also said that as far as you know the electric start was always an accessory. Again, please explain what your opinion was based on. What makes you think the electric starter was not standard equipment?
Eric

sfmichael

Nice Tom ... Congrats  :up:  :beer:

    :smiled:
Colorado Springs, CO.