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KEY FAB not turning off alarm?

Started by joearizona, October 18, 2013, 06:50:36 AM

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joearizona

went to leave for work this morning and 2011 Ultra limited went into alarm mode. and wouldn't start. if changing the battery's in both KEY FAB's tonight doesn't work what can I check? Need some HELP. or how do I turn off the alarm manually I know there is a way to use the directional to do it but I don't know how?

Ohio HD

You can only turn it off manually if you know the factory set code.

You can only change the factory set code if the fob is working.

Better hope for the battery.

IndyHarley

last resort: your dealer can also do it
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bigfoot5x

The owner's manual walks you through the method to disable the alarm without the fob. If the battery fixes it, reset the code number to something you want following the instructions. The factory code is based on the VIN.

Coyote

Quote from: bigfoot5x on October 18, 2013, 07:58:13 AM
The factory code is based on the VIN.

There is no factory code. The code is set by the selling dealer during prep and there is no uniform method for this. If you don't have the code or a working FOB, you're screwed.

Anytime I work on someone's bike now, I read the code and record it in case they find themselves in that situation I can reset the HFSM.

Ohio HD


Quote from: Coyote on October 18, 2013, 08:11:29 AM
Quote from: bigfoot5x on October 18, 2013, 07:58:13 AM
The factory code is based on the VIN.

There is no factory code. The code is set by the selling dealer during prep and there is no uniform method for this. If you don't have the code or a working FOB, you're screwed.

Anytime I work on someone's bike now, I read the code and record it in case they find themselves in that situation I can reset the HFSM.

Either way, dealer sets or factory, if you don't have it, no start.

Coff 06

On mine it was the last digits of the vin #.             Coff 06
06 FX Springer, 98",11/1,9B+4*,HPI 55/58 /5.3inj,HDSP Pro Street heads,123/118

88b

I'd bet good money it's the battery in the fob , they should be changed at least once a year

Scooterfish

Some dealers were using the local zip code a few yrs ago.  :nix:
Northern Indiana

Breeze

Yet another, mine was last 5 digits of serial #, in reverse order.
I'm starting to believe my body is gonna outlast my mind.

truck

Mine was 1 2 3 4 5, I was told to change it when I got home if I wanted .
Listen to the jingle the rumble and the roar.

bigfoot5x

Ah ha! My dealer is using the last 5 digits of the VIN. I thought that was the norm everywhere. I changed mine and actually had to try and use the code one time. I learned that you cannot sit on the bike, move the handlebars or anything when loading the code or the bike really gets upset and takes awhile before you can load the code. I sat on mine and raised it up and straightened the handle bars. It refused to work for a long time.

alstar2

i thought those things were so other people couldn't ride your bike.    :hyst:   

rbabos

Quote from: joearizona on October 18, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
went to leave for work this morning and 2011 Ultra limited went into alarm mode. and wouldn't start. if changing the battery's in both KEY FAB's tonight doesn't work what can I check? Need some HELP. or how do I turn off the alarm manually I know there is a way to use the directional to do it but I don't know how?
I find that HFSM a pain in the ass. Way too sensitive. I ride with the fob in my left pocket and sometimes if I try and start it sitting on the bike,  depending on surroundings the alarm activates and won't reset unless I climb off the bike and turn my left pocket toward the antenna. Max distance with either fob is 4' in an unshielded or interference free area. Another brain dead MoCo design if you ask me.  Some gas stations, hospital zones bike needs to be moved to a different location before it works. Not just my bike, others in my area have seen the same thing.
Ron

mkd

ron I have owned my 2005 flhtci since new and on laborday weekends since 2006 we have been  at springfield il for the ama bike races. on Saturdays we allways go to darcy's pint on Stafford which is on the west side of springfield south of the airport. in 2006 and in 2012 my bike would not start because the security system would mess up. both times by the time it was trailered the 8 miles back to the dealership once we got there and reactivated the security it would start right up. just so happens there's a 200 ft tall micro tower within view behind darcy's. something over that way my bike doesn't like. I have since learned allot more on how to manually unlock the bike with the switches! more importantly I don't lock the security we we stop at darcy's. both times it's been a free ride back to hall's hd in springfield. the owner's at hall's  have treated me very well since our first meeting in 2006.

joe_lyons

The security sensors for merchandise set of the security also.  Sux with the SE bikes with the alarms.  Then I told the salesmen to turn on the bikes when going through the sensors and they won't go crazy.
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joearizona

Got home tonight & tried a battery I had in the house & found one in the bike I put that one in the second FAB, LOW & BEHOLD neither did the trick, when the wife goes shopping tomorrow she'll pick up a new battery. May be that will do it. I will also call the stealer tomorrow & ask them what code they used when they programmed the bike. this bike is my daily ride & it will kill me to not have it. so I hope the new battery does the trick & then I will program in a new code for myself. thanks for all the help. You guys are the best!

hdbikedoc

hope the battery works. here is what I recommend,buy two batterys,install one in fob,get spare fob remove the battery from it ,tape other new battery to the fob without battery and put it in tour pak so if your original fob fails when out or you drop and step on it you have backup in your tour pak and because there is no battery in it the system still works normal and sets when stops . evey 6 months buy new battery tape it to spare use battery that was taped to spare in original fob  :bike:
Keep your feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked

gonenorth

Quote from: 88b on October 18, 2013, 10:27:09 AM
I'd bet good money it's the battery in the fob , they should be changed at least once a year
I agree.  I've had similar situations toward the end of the riding year.  I change batteries at start of the year and carry a spare.  Once they went to the auto arm system it eats batteries.  I also have had to pop the battery out and put it back in to reset and then it works fine (even had this on new battery).  I carry the code and turn signal commands in my wallet just in case.  Best of luck.

joearizona

I'm going to call the Stealer today & ask them what the code is that they used to set up the bike. I hope that works. I'm 40 miles from the closest Stealer.

tomcat64

Quote from: bigfoot5x on October 18, 2013, 01:55:44 PM
Ah ha! My dealer is using the last 5 digits of the VIN. I thought that was the norm everywhere. I changed mine and actually had to try and use the code one time. I learned that you cannot sit on the bike, move the handlebars or anything when loading the code or the bike really gets upset and takes awhile before you can load the code. I sat on mine and raised it up and straightened the handle bars. It refused to work for a long time.

that's not what we use... if that was the dealer "norm" that the bikes would be pretty easy to swipe!!

Breeze

Quote from: hdbikedoc on October 18, 2013, 07:45:37 PM
hope the battery works. here is what I recommend,buy two batterys,install one in fob,get spare fob remove the battery from it ,tape other new battery to the fob without battery and put it in tour pak so if your original fob fails when out or you drop and step on it you have backup in your tour pak and because there is no battery in it the system still works normal and sets when stops . evey 6 months buy new battery tape it to spare use battery that was taped to spare in original fob  :bike:


Or put the battery IN the fob backwards. No drain, no chance of tape coming off.
I'm starting to believe my body is gonna outlast my mind.

joearizona

GOT IT GUY'S, I called my Stealer & they told me they use the last 5 digits of the bikes VIN # But when I tried it that didn't work! So I checked the service Manual again & it said you can't use a 0 as a number & the last digit is a 0, so I used a 1 and She started. thanks for all the help. I guess I use the right forum to go on. the wife is shopping today & she will pick up 2 fresh new battery's.

ViennaHog

Lucky boy. And find a better PIN............

joearizona

As soon as I get the fabs working I'm am going to change the pin #'s to something no one will get. like my the locks on my luggage, like 1,2,3,4,5