V-Twin Show in February

[hdrider]

I went to the second Techno research seminar -- what a bunch of crap. The presenter looked liked the absent minded professor and spoke with such a heavy French? accent that he was hard to understand.  The whole session just kind of rambled on with no real explanation of what they had, how it worked, or what it really was, other than "it's the greatest thing in the world".  It looked like the 3 or so dealers who actually used their software and equipment were sitting up front and pretty well spent most of the time conversing with the presenter, who in my mind really didn't present anything.  The biggest complaint from the users was that their customers never heard of Techno Research and so were reluctant to have their bikes tuned using it.  Offhand it looks like tremendously capable software/hardware with tremendously lousy marketing and support.  I looked at their website and it looks like they use their equipment on all sorts of bike brands other than Harley and that the Harley market is a pretty small part of their business (and attention/support).  I'll stick with ThunderMax.

[Tattoo]

Ray sorry I didn't catch back up with to chat but it was good meeting you and the others.

[strokerjlk]

So where are the full reports?
Last year we heard about all kinds of new parts and pieces, so far this year it is a cam and then the jim's lifter report.

Fuel Moto brought the e series pipe back to life .
Ultima has t/c cranks
S&S ' s display motor needs rebuilt . Pistons rock like crazy @ TDC /BDC

I spoke with Allen Alvarez of DTT , when I mentioned the numbers seemed to be down .
His reply was, the quality of the attendees was better . Class act

[strokerjlk]

I found my new pipe also 

[hdrider]

I saw that ridiculous exhaust also.

[hrdtail78]

1.  Techno Research's new product is the blue tooth tuning key, data logger (Maximus) and user interface program.  Maximus blue tooth allows ECM channel streaming to smart phones.  It also data logs for road tuning which in his program is called Live Dyno.  Centurion is all up and running with all the features they have been adding.  Does everything the DT does and more.  Direct link program looks better and runs better.  It allows you to view and log data in more of the way you actually tune.  Their customer service is top notch. 

2.  DynoJet's Winpep8, dual O2 controller, and stack. 

3.  Last but not least and what I am excited about the most is TTS's 4 configurable 0-5 analog inputs.


Those are my top 3.  It is a industry dealer show.  It is nice to do business, and BS with people face to face that I usually deal with on the phone.

[1FSTRK]

1.  Techno Research's new product is the blue tooth tuning key, data logger (Maximus) and user interface program.  Maximus blue tooth allows ECM channel streaming to smart phones.  It also data logs for road tuning which in his program is called Live Dyno.  Centurion is all up and running with all the features they have been adding.  Does everything the DT does and more.  Direct link program looks better and runs better.  It allows you to view and log data in more of the way you actually tune.  Their customer service is top notch. 

2.  DynoJet's Winpep8, dual O2 controller, and stack. 

3.  Last but not least and what I am excited about the most is TT's 4 configurable 0-5 analog inputs.


Those are my top 3.  It is a industry dealer show.  It is nice to do business, and BS with people face to face that I usually deal with on the phone.

TT's ?
What is this?

[hrdtail78]

TTS

[calif phil]

Made it home safe.  I enjoyed the show.  I am glad I had a chance this year to meet and hang out more with all my HTT friends   
I like seeing the new products attending seminars and catching up with friends and colleagues that I do business with.  I can't wait for next year.

[guydoc77]

I found my new pipe also 

So how you going to mount your trailer hitch with that single stack exhaust Jim?
Also, is the endcap reinforced to handle curbs in the dark on Main in Sturgis?

[calif phil]

I think you could mount a wheelie bar on that thing.

[TorQuePimp]

  The ultima cranks looked to be better quality than what I have previously seen and they are going to have them for the late A here early summer

  The Area51 exhaust is kind of interesting.....unique baffle design,stepped header,little different method of packing the baffle appears to be very well constructed.

  Zippers has some oversize pistons for the 110 engine,they are wiseco in some different oversizes better than being stuck with .010 over

   not much else to report

[1FSTRK]

What about new heads?

[TorQuePimp]

  Did not see anything new for heads

[Olivepearl]

I thought Fuel Moto had some heads to show off.

Robert

[build it]

Fuel Moto brought the e series pipe back to life .

Is this the pipe that was on the 117" R/D build? Snap any shots?

[hrdtail78]

Tman Performance had several heads at different stages of exhaust port welded and machined.   Neat stuff. 

[BVHOG]

I went to the second Techno research seminar -- what a bunch of crap. The presenter looked liked the absent minded professor and spoke with such a heavy French? accent that he was hard to understand.  The whole session just kind of rambled on with no real explanation of what they had, how it worked, or what it really was, other than "it's the greatest thing in the world".  It looked like the 3 or so dealers who actually used their software and equipment were sitting up front and pretty well spent most of the time conversing with the presenter, who in my mind really didn't present anything.  The biggest complaint from the users was that their customers never heard of Techno Research and so were reluctant to have their bikes tuned using it.  Offhand it looks like tremendously capable software/hardware with tremendously lousy marketing and support.  I looked at their website and it looks like they use their equipment on all sorts of bike brands other than Harley and that the Harley market is a pretty small part of their business (and attention/support).  I'll stick with ThunderMax.

I gotta say, the Techno seminar left a bit to be desired, as for the guy with the thick accent, that's Sandro and you won't find a better guy(or smarter guy) to deal with once you know him.  The guy he had previously doing the Harley marketing was in a bad motorcycle crash last summer and from what I gather is still not at full speed. From a dyno tuner's standpoint his system along with the Power Vision are the two most affordable systems out there.
When I have had issues with the DL stuff Sandro was an easy phone call away and hooked up directly with my computer to resolve the issue, hard to beat that. Also had him call late into the eve to make sure things had worked out earlier that day. I can't imagine any of the other competitors out there doing that.

As for the rest of the expo, the win pep 8 stuff is sort of ready, would really like to just upgrade now but it requires a complete replacement of all dyno components  and is likely to be yet another 4-5 grand investment. While it will eventually be a required update I feel swapping out now could end up being a major headache with the busy tuning season just about here. I may just wait till fall at this point.
I also liked the area 51 pipe and the guys in the booth were total gearheads through and through. Will be trying this pipe on my 120 build.
T-man has some nice heads and the S&S display(while not the intent) showed exactly why those little short slipper skirt pistons make so much noise.
Fuel Moto had a really nice display booth and it was cool to see the old style E being resurrected.
Cyco has a new tensioner shoe only replacement for the late model hydraulic  shoes that will be released soon.  The Cyco girl (aptly named) at the booth was a hoot but I'll let Stroker fill you in on that one.
As for the rest of you guys I met, what a great bunch. Tweekmytwin, you made my weekend, can't remember the last time I laughed that hard.(or is it raughed that hard?)
Joe lyons, was great meeting you and I envy you being your age and having the knowledge you already have. You have a GREAT future ahead of you in the motorcyle industry. No doubt your name will pop up, probably in a booth some day in the future at the expo.

[cherryseeg2]

Fuel Moto had one of the cast heads they are working on with Gary Williams.  Jamie said they were still a ways out on them.  The also had thier new E-series systems.  Jamie told us he planned to offer the mufflers for most of the popular head pipes already out along with a full system from them.  We looked at the Direct Link stuff but Sandro wasn't in the booth at the time and the guy we talked to didn't know much about the tuning end of it.  Darkhorse didn't have their compensator there this year just said they were still testing it.

[Eglider05]

I found my new pipe also 

That's the new crack pipe. The guy who designed most have been smoking something.

Rick

[Durwood]

I found my new pipe also 

That's the new crack pipe. The guy who designed most have been smoking something.

Rick

[joe_lyons]

Feuling had a cool looking crank that was a 4 piece I guess you would call it.  There was a main rod that had plain bearings and a slave rod and the wheels bolted on.

[Hillside Motorcycle]

I went to the second Techno research seminar -- what a bunch of crap. The presenter looked liked the absent minded professor and spoke with such a heavy French? accent that he was hard to understand.  The whole session just kind of rambled on with no real explanation of what they had, how it worked, or what it really was, other than "it's the greatest thing in the world".  It looked like the 3 or so dealers who actually used their software and equipment were sitting up front and pretty well spent most of the time conversing with the presenter, who in my mind really didn't present anything.  The biggest complaint from the users was that their customers never heard of Techno Research and so were reluctant to have their bikes tuned using it.  Offhand it looks like tremendously capable software/hardware with tremendously lousy marketing and support.  I looked at their website and it looks like they use their equipment on all sorts of bike brands other than Harley and that the Harley market is a pretty small part of their business (and attention/support).  I'll stick with ThunderMax.

Italian accent is what you heard.........

[strokerjlk]

I also liked the area 51 pipe and the guys in the booth were total gearheads through and through. Will be trying this pipe on my 120 build.

Looks like it aught to work on a big motor .
I got him to pull out some dyno sheets , the dip police will be all over that pipe on a small build .
He looked like a deer in headlights , when I asked about smaller baffles .
One size fits all basically .  The dip police will have a hay day if its used on a smaller motor .
The factory 103 sheet he had pulled up 83/105 STD . Looked like a roller coaster under 3500 rpms , as did all the sheets .... Except the one laying on table .
Can't wait to see it on a super tuned " big motor "  get er done Bob .

[hdrider]

I had some discussions with Tom Reiser over at Tman after I left the Fuelmoto booth.  I had previously asked Fuelmoto about how high a lift cam they used before they switched from beehive valve springs to dual coil springs.  they said .600" lift because that's the maximum the beehives were rated for.  Made sense to me, but I knew that Tman used them for .660" lift cams.

I asked Tom why he recommended Dual Coil valve springs (vs Beehives) for .660" lift cams 3 years ago, but now Beehives are OK for everything through .660" lift.  Tom explained that they have their beehive springs "specially coated" to improve fatigue strength and that they work fine for everything but their most aggressive cams.  I asked him what he considered aggressive and he said .700" lift and above.

I then asked Tom how the reliability of the Nikasil Coated Rev Perf cylinders was holding up (there were coating peeling issues several years ago due to the wrong material used for the piston rings).   Tom said that they (Tman) haven't had any reliability issues at all, but interestingly he said that Rev Perf was still seeing some occasional failures and had even asked Tom what he was doing differently to eliminate the issues.  The only thing Tom could think of was that he gave explicit instructions (with each kit) on how to clean the cylinders before installation to remove any residual diamond dust from the honing process.  I don't know if Tom has found the magic bullet on this or not, but I'm still hesitant to try the Rev Perf Cylinders.