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Goodbye to a good 1250 engine

Started by strokerjlk, July 08, 2014, 09:13:44 PM

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strokerjlk

This bike has been on the track since 2006
Literally had over 1000 passes on it .
It has been a good motor , and been in the money a lot . Not alot of money , just in the money a lot  :emsad:




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Panzer

WOW, right through the case.
That's about right, broken at the stress point.
The engine did you well.
Everyone wants to change the world but, no one wants to change the toilet paper.

Durwood


WhipLash96

Man that sucks. But now you get build a bigger one. :)
Thanks,
Whip

strokerjlk

Quote from: Panzer on July 09, 2014, 06:06:54 AM
WOW, right through the case.
That's about right, broken at the stress point.
The engine did you well.
According to Ron Dickey . Your correct the front rod breaks where mine did
The rear at the base .
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strokerjlk

Quote from: WhipLash96 on July 13, 2014, 08:14:37 AM
Man that sucks. But now you get build a bigger one. :)
Yes I do .
Gonna do a Axtell 88 ci . With ductile Iron cylinders
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WhipLash96

Quote from: strokerjlk on July 13, 2014, 08:32:12 AM
Quote from: WhipLash96 on July 13, 2014, 08:14:37 AM
Man that sucks. But now you get build a bigger one. :)
Yes I do .
Gonna do a Axtell 88 ci . With ductile Iron cylinders
I am considering going bigger on mine once I get my clutch issue resolved. Think I am going with hammer performance though.
Thanks,
Whip

strokerjlk

Quote from: WhipLash96 on July 13, 2014, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: strokerjlk on July 13, 2014, 08:32:12 AM
Quote from: WhipLash96 on July 13, 2014, 08:14:37 AM
Man that sucks. But now you get build a bigger one. :)
Yes I do .
Gonna do a Axtell 88 ci . With ductile Iron cylinders
I am considering going bigger on mine once I get my clutch issue resolved. Think I am going with hammer performance though.
cant go wrong there.
same cylinders. :up:
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rigidthumper

Those little 88"ers run very well.  Mine is still out there, and I hope whoever stole it is enjoying my efforts. Fukkers. 
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strokerjlk

Quote from: rigidthumper on July 13, 2014, 09:24:56 AM
Those little 88"ers run very well.  Mine is still out there, and I hope whoever stole it is enjoying my efforts. "potty mouth! "kers.
That sucks
Had some skumbags steal a Stroker shovel of mine . Know just how you feel .
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strokerjlk

What else was the build robin? And what did it do power wise ?
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mayor

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rigidthumper

Quote from: strokerjlk on July 13, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
What else was the build robin? And what did it do power wise ?
05 883, NRHS head work, Axtell 88" cylinders w/flat top pistons, SE 575 cams, ST2-1, Pingle air shifter & light, DTT ign, 45 Mik, PM Chicane wheels, Shinko tires. 102TQ/115HP.
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strokerjlk

Quote from: rigidthumper on July 14, 2014, 05:52:40 AM
Quote from: strokerjlk on July 13, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
What else was the build robin? And what did it do power wise ?
05 883, NRHS head work, Axtell 88" cylinders w/flat top pistons, SE 575 cams, ST2-1, Pingle air shifter & light, DTT ign, 45 Mik, PM Chicane wheels, Shinko tires. 102TQ/115HP.
Thanks Robin
Kinda the same as what I am doing . 575 cams with a .500 dome piston .
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rigidthumper

That 1/2" dome should get things moving pretty well.  Shooting for 11:1 corrected?
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strokerjlk

Quote from: rigidthumper on July 14, 2014, 07:00:18 AM
That 1/2" dome should get things moving pretty well.  Shooting for 11:1 corrected?
As much compression as I can get .
Kirby is opening up the XB heads for the bigger bore , and cutting the new 30 deg radius .
It needs intake valves as well. Once he gets his hands on them , . We can determine compression.
Was hoping for around 120 hp .
As of right now I plan on using the HO 575's . But eventually would like to use a more right side set of cams
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rigidthumper

The RS 643s might fit the bill at 13:1
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strokerjlk

Quote from: rigidthumper on July 14, 2014, 07:25:37 AM
The RS 643s might fit the bill at 13:1
That's what I was thinking too
Don't know about clearance yet though .
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Maxxx

ouch!!  what rpm did it let go at?

strokerjlk

Quote from: Maxxx on July 15, 2014, 05:48:32 AM
ouch!!  what rpm did it let go at?
Fortually it was right after the burnout .
Engine was idling .
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strokerjlk

Gonna go with stock rods again .  :kick:

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Maxxx

 shooting for another 1000 runs..   :up: 
I keep waiting for mine to do that at 7500 rpm!  :crash:

Durwood

Too bad they don't bolt the twin cam flywheels together :crook:

strokerjlk

Quote from: Durwood on July 16, 2014, 06:04:33 AM
Too bad they don't bolt the twin cam flywheels together :crook:
Figured you would notice the ultima flywheels in the background
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aswracing

Those new skinny neck rods as pictured are actually stronger believe it or not ... according to my contact at PDC anyway.

The late Buell/XR crank is much improved and cheaper too:



1.5" pin. Rods made from the same material as used in the XBRR 9000rpm motor. The crank runs about $650. Can be fitted to 91-99, bolt-in for 04-up.

strokerjlk

QuoteThose new skinny neck rods as pictured are actually stronger believe it or not ... according to my contact at PDC anyway.
Thanks Aaron . That's kinda comforting .
Any rods cheaper than Carrillo you recommend ?
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strokerjlk

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Maxxx


strokerjlk

Quote from: Maxxx on July 21, 2014, 12:09:48 PM
nice.. what brand are those 88s?
JE pistons , for Axtell ductile iron cylinders
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strokerjlk

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Wicked


Carl 1969

That 88's gonna be a beast. I got to ride a shop mule that pushed off 97hp/102tq & yowza.

Just outta curiosity, has anyone ever combined a S&S stroker flywheel with the Axtell kit? I know there's little to know room in a OEM frame, but an aftermarket rigid's a whole different ballgame. Have often thought a 4.25 or 4.625 'wheel with those Axtell slugs would be a hoot...
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strokerjlk

Quote from: Carl 1969 on August 17, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
That 88's gonna be a beast. I got to ride a shop mule that pushed off 97hp/102tq & yowza.

Just outta curiosity, has anyone ever combined a S&S stroker flywheel with the Axtell kit? I know there's little to know room in a OEM frame, but an aftermarket rigid's a whole different ballgame. Have often thought a 4.25 or 4.625 'wheel with those Axtell slugs would be a hoot...
I think the 4.25 or 97 ci is doable
don't know about the 4,624 105.6 ci
would have to use a S&S case for either one.
I hope to have a little more than 97 hp  I had 99 hp 82 tq with the 76 ci off the spray .
not sure what it will do really 
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Carl 1969

Cool.

That 97/102 Sporty was back in '97, so I imagine folks are getting more out of 'em nowadays. That bike was running heads done by one of the guys involved with JET early on, with N6 cams, Super G & Thunderheader.

Can't imagine sprayin' one of those monsters. Little beast would loft the front, rolling on the throttle in 4th. Builder said it was frightening trying to make a pass with the stock Sportster chassis.
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strokerjlk

Sounds like a brute
I don't plan on running n2o on this motor . At least for a while .
Before I got the progressive controller on the 1250 motor . The first time I brought the n2o in at full % in 1 st gear out of the hole , it hit the wheelie bar so hard it raised both tires off the ground .
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Carl 1969

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strokerjlk

Heads are back from Kirby .
Opened up and 30 deg cut again . Along with a new valve and valve job .
Looking good kirby  :up:


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strokerjlk

Gonna test this carb. S/A modified S&S D
3 thunder jets


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Durwood

Are you going to be able to make the last Bowling green race?

strokerjlk

Quote from: Durwood on September 02, 2014, 07:54:25 AM
Are you going to be able to make the last Bowling green race?
IDK.
At this point I am not in a rush anymore .
If I don't get it ready O well  , I am having a blast with the bagger .

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Durwood

Quote from: strokerjlk on September 02, 2014, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: Durwood on September 02, 2014, 07:54:25 AM
Are you going to be able to make the last Bowling green race?
IDK.
At this point I am not in a rush anymore .
If I don't get it ready O well  , I am having a blast with the bagger .
Then, i'd order some good rods and make it bullet proof... :potstir:

strokerjlk

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Durwood


laserp

Hey Jim. Been off line most of the summer. Good to see you're putting the sporty back together.  :up: :beer:
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Durwood

Come on Jim, give us some more pics and a video of it running, You light that 88"er yet? I know it's in the frame...... :pop:

strokerjlk

Quote from: Durwood on September 16, 2014, 06:40:58 AM
Come on Jim, give us some more pics and a video of it running, You light that 88"er yet? I know it's in the frame...... :pop:
Yes it's in the frame .
Still checking clearance's
Waiting on the solid lifters to bleed down . It been two days now .  :scratch:
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Durwood

Quote from: strokerjlk on September 16, 2014, 07:00:24 AM
Quote from: Durwood on September 16, 2014, 06:40:58 AM
Come on Jim, give us some more pics and a video of it running, You light that 88"er yet? I know it's in the frame...... :pop:
Yes it's in the frame .
Still checking clearance's
Waiting on the solid lifters to bleed down . It been two days now .  :scratch:
:hyst: