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Crimping of wire connectors and the tool to do it.

Started by Modes, January 09, 2015, 04:17:06 AM

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Modes

I have dabbled in installing 12v electronics since I got my first car.  Whether is was installing a radio for myself or a friend, adding audio components or accessories in anything with a motor and a battery, or building a Teardrop trailer I have simply used the crimper/stripper that came with a kit of wire terminals or one like it I bought.  I have for a while switched to a dedicated stripper as they are much better, sharper, and they do not twist and stop functioning like the combination units tend to do.  Maybe I was unaware that such an item existed, but I bought a dedicated wire terminal crimper recently and all I can saw is WOW!!!  Not real exciting I know, but I never liked the squished looking crimp the combo unit made and I certainly never felt secure it was going to hold especially if I left the applied insulation on.  This dedicated crimper also provides much better leverage. 

Here is the actual tool


It can be used with the applied insulation or with a bare terminal if you like to make a tidy connection with heat shrink like I do.  Also with a bare terminal, after you crimp it, there is a jaw on the tool to fold the crimp together on itself giving you a factory crimp. Don't get me wrong, I like to solder joints whenever applicable, but there are times you don't.

If you dabble in electric 12v stuff like I do, then do yourself a favor and pick one of these up. Universal in size for a variety of AWG's  Worth every penny.

Adam

UltraNutZ

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FSG

I have a variety of crimpers but IMO you cant beat the Ratchet Type.


gordonr

 Unless in a pinch I would never crimp wiring that is exposed to the elements. Even if you performed a proper crimp it's the corrosion that sets up 6mo to a year later that concerns me. Besides that how do you how much pressure to apply to a crimp without knowing when the wire is weakened and starts breaking?
"If was easy everyone would do it"

z71_fourwheelin

If I may then... What is everyone doing? Crimp or Solder?
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Modes

Quote from: gordonr on January 09, 2015, 04:31:24 AM
Unless in a pinch I would never crimp wiring that is exposed to the elements. Even if you performed a proper crimp it's the corrosion that sets up 6mo to a year later that concerns me. Besides that how do you how much pressure to apply to a crimp without knowing when the wire is weakened and starts breaking?

Well the ratchet one is supposed to be setup for proper pressure I assume, but otherwise I probabaly break the "Potty mouth" out of the wire just like I do when I over-tightening bolts LMAO!!  I try to get the connectors with the heat shrink right on them.  I have some but connectors that ouze out a clear sealant when they are heat shrunk.....love that type to sealing purposes.

Adam

UltraNutZ

I solder all speaker leads onto the speakers.
any amp with a screw down connector for speakers or power, I tin the ends of the wires to give the screw something extra to bite on
any crimping I do, I do it with standard heat shrink connectors like this.
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Modes



For extending wires I twist, solder, and heat shrink when I can.  If it can't stay together before the solder from twisting, then if it heated up there is a potential it won't hold together after solder.  End connectors I crimp, if they are 14AWG or bigger I will crimp and finish with heat shrink.

Adam

UltraNutZ

Quote from: FSG on January 09, 2015, 04:27:49 AM
I have a variety of crimpers but IMO you cant beat the Ratchet Type.



I use these on occasion but the majority of the time I simply use the crimp tool.  I've had a crimp tool in my hand since the early 80s and after that long you know what you can and cannot do with them.
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z71_fourwheelin

Quote from: UltraNutZ on January 09, 2015, 05:23:47 AM
I solder all speaker leads onto the speakers.
any amp with a screw down connector for speakers or power, I tin the ends of the wires to give the screw something extra to bite on
any crimping I do, I do it with standard heat shrink connectors like this.
So the only connectors you use are going to the speakers themselves?
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UltraNutZ

yes sir.  if the wires such as the wires that are on the Polk crossovers already have connectors on them that plug directly into the speaker, I use them.  If I'm running my own wires to the speakers say from a SS amp to the speaker with no crossover involved, then I solder the wire to the speaker terminals.  With a cordless soldering iron it literally takes 2.5 secs per speaker and well worth the extra effort.



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ΚĜΗΟŜΤ

January 09, 2015, 10:08:18 AM #11 Last Edit: January 09, 2015, 10:10:43 AM by ΚĜΗΟŜΤ
Quote from: Modes on January 09, 2015, 04:17:06 AM
I have dabbled in installing 12v electronics since I got my first car.  Whether is was installing a radio for myself or a friend, adding audio components or accessories in anything with a motor and a battery, or building a Teardrop trailer I have simply used the crimper/stripper that came with a kit of wire terminals or one like it I bought.  I have for a while switched to a dedicated stripper as they are much better, sharper, and they do not twist and stop functioning like the combination units tend to do.  Maybe I was unaware that such an item existed, but I bought a dedicated wire terminal crimper recently and all I can saw is WOW!!!  Not real exciting I know, but I never liked the squished looking crimp the combo unit made and I certainly never felt secure it was going to hold especially if I left the applied insulation on.  This dedicated crimper also provides much better leverage. 

Here is the actual tool


It can be used with the applied insulation or with a bare terminal if you like to make a tidy connection with heat shrink like I do.  Also with a bare terminal, after you crimp it, there is a jaw on the tool to fold the crimp together on itself giving you a factory crimp. Don't get me wrong, I like to solder joints whenever applicable, but there are times you don't.

If you dabble in electric 12v stuff like I do, then do yourself a favor and pick one of these up. Universal in size for a variety of AWG's  Worth every penny.

Adam

This is the best I believe, Any others that just compress without the dimple allow the wires to become loose......In my opinion. I also have several of these types not to mention many other crimpers.......which I rarely touch.

The only hold back is this type of crimper only works on red and blue.........Not yellow connectors....unless you have one that will work for all three sizes.
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UltraNutZ

I use the Klein 1005-INS primarily but I have other Klein 1005 as well.  they work great for anything 10 or smaller including yellow connectors.
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FSG

QuoteI've had a crimp tool in my hand since the early 80s and after that long you know what you can and cannot do with them.

:agree:

My usage started in '71, the NASA inspectors were a tough bunch, checking every connection, crimp and component bend under an eye loupe.

UltraNutZ

and all this time I thought you were a young puppy.. nah.. you're just an old fart like me!   :hyst:
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