so gear drive cam spec is .3 the Harley mechanics say anything under .4?!?!?!?!

Started by dynaloves88, February 26, 2015, 06:28:00 PM

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autoworker

If runout  is .004 in. then go with chains.
When done properly,I personally prefer gear drive cams.
It must be true,I read it on the internet.


Just Nick

Quote from: dynaloves88 on February 27, 2015, 01:22:25 PM
Ok lol what do they cost?

If you are asking what gear drive cams cost S&S are 729.95 Retail that includes cams gears bearing and gaskets.
And for what its worth we do not run gear drive on anything over .002
I'm never wrong , once I thought I was wrong , but I was wrong

rageglide

2014 catalog says $499 for the 25284-11 kit - SE cam plate, gears, chains, tensioners, new high flow Oil pump

Still need EARLY style cams.  Might be able to piece the "kit" together with the standard cast cam plate, but doubt you'd save much.  Back in the "old days", update kits were fair bit cheaper than the replacement parts.    Buying the SE kit through a discount internet dealer would save you about 20%.

edit - correct the cam comment...

wholehog

Quote from: dynaloves88 on February 27, 2015, 01:22:25 PM
Ok lol what do they cost?
parts only with cam, bearings, plate, pump, hydraulic shoes and 2 chains, pushrods/covers, lifters and misc will probably be around $1000....go the internet 20% off route

dynaman

Quote from: rageglide on February 27, 2015, 02:12:16 PM
2014 catalog says $499 for the 25284-11 kit - SE cam plate, gears, chains, tensioners, new high flow Oil pump

Still need late style cams though.  Might be able to piece the "kit" together with the standard cast cam plate, but doubt you'd save much.  Back in the "old days", update kits were fair bit cheaper than the replacement parts.    Buying the SE kit through a discount internet dealer would save you about 20%.

Don't need "late style cams" and they won't work anyway because the inner cam bearing is a different size on the first gen twin cams (unless you go with the Andrews "conversion" cams):

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/se-hydraulic-tensioner---oil-pump-upgrade

Have to use the old outer chain and sprockets on pre-02 to retain the function of the cam position sensor, or it can be eliminated by using a Daytona Twin Tec TC 88 ignition (highly recommended) and then you can use the new-style outer chain and sprocket provided with the kit.

rageglide

dynaman,  THANKS for correcting me.  For some reason I was thinking this kit also brought the parent material option for the cams.  duh... there's the bearing retainer ...  and late style cams have a bigger inner race... So, buy a cam that's appropriate for the 99-05 engine.

I confuse this because my buddy used the parent material cam plate on his 2004 to adapt the new style tensioners.  He had his old style cams sleeved to work in the parent material.

dynaman

No problem rageglide.  This all gets a little hairy with the different options.  Totally agree with the rest of your post.

The elephant in the room here is why is the OP's runout .004 " (out of HD spec) on his early twincam motor?  The 99-02 had a forged crank and Timken lefty bearing and runout should be less than .003".  Mine measured <.0015" at 31k hard miles with a highly-modded setup. You rarely hear of runout problems with a 99-02 motor.

rageglide

That elephant has been present so often Harley decided he was OK by them and invited him to stay...   :banghead:

wholehog