110"/117" bolt on cylinder cut in half.

[Tattoo]

[UltraNutZ]

what's the thickness of the sleeve Tattoo if you don't mind sir?

[UltraNutZ]

by the way.. thanks for destroying a perfectly good cylinder for our benefit.   

[Horizonmech]

 Looks like that liner is locked in pretty damn well .......

[akjeff]

Thanks for the photo? Any chance of a shot of the spigot?

Jeff

[Tattoo]

what's the thickness of the sleeve Tattoo if you don't mind sir?

with my bad eye sight and a cheap venire I'm getting .134" sleeve and .030" at the spigot.

[les]

So, thinner than a spark plug gap at the spigot. 

[FSG]

Are there any special torque plates available for those 117 jugs?

[Tattoo]

If there are we have not seem them yet.

[Matt C]

So, thinner than a spark plug gap at the spigot.

No thanks....

[prodrag1320]

Are there any special torque plates available for those 117 jugs?

just regular big bore,stock bolt pattern plates.same as for 110 cylinders

[FSG]

Are there any special torque plates available for those 117 jugs?

just regular big bore,stock bolt pattern plates.same as for 110 cylinders

I just thought there might be something special to specifically fit and support the thin spigot.

[spdrcr]

.030 for the spigot. That's a bit thin for my toolmaker liking.

[Tattoo]

"the high strength steel allows for the sleeve to be machined thinner at the crankcase bore yet remains thicker in the critical aluminum section"

I'm just the messenger.....   

[rbabos]

 .030 for a spigot is just plain stupid from any form of reliable design aspect. That .030 is actually less when you take into account the stress risers from the hone marks. How they don't crack off is a mystery to me. I guess it's a wait and see what happens to them in the long run. Below 1/16" I get queasy.
Ron

[strokerjlk]

what's the thickness of the sleeve Tattoo if you don't mind sir?

with my bad eye sight and a cheap venire I'm getting .134" sleeve and .030" at the spigot.

Is that a 110 or 117 cylinder ?

[UltraNutZ]

it's the 117" cylinder that comes int he 110 to 117 bolt on kit

[Hybredhog]

   Probably never meant to re-bore, and if its hardened, its down to grinding it?

[PoorUB]

   Probably never meant to re-bore, and if its hardened, its down to grinding it?

The sleeve is steel instead of the typical cast iron, and no, I doubt anyone will be boring on oversize as thin as the skirt is.

[tubeman426]

The thin spigot is only there for the piston skirt to run on, the rings don't run down that far. I would be more worried about the crank shifting then cylinder failure.

[TorQuePimp]

The thin spigot is only there for the piston skirt to run on, the rings don't run down that far. I would be more worried about the crank shifting then cylinder failure.

Might be interesting to see what the spigot does when clamped in a torque plate

If it doesn't really move....maybe these will hold up

[Matt C]

The thin spigot is only there for the piston skirt to run on, the rings don't run down that far. I would be more worried about the crank shifting then cylinder failure.

Might be interesting to see what the spigot does when clamped in a torque plate

If it doesn't really move....maybe these will hold up

John, they do move. You can torque them down and hone em round just fine. Then, take the plates
off and put them back on, rinse and repeat. They get all kinda outa whack where the parting surface is.
(Not so much the spigot itself, but about 2" up from the bottom.)

That's been my experience anyway. Your mileage may vary.

[Matt C]

We had a 107" in here that cracked in that same place. Didn't break off, but made allot of noise.

[BVHOG]

I want to know what happened to this one that you decided to cut it in half?

[1FSTRK]

The thin spigot is only there for the piston skirt to run on, the rings don't run down that far. I would be more worried about the crank shifting then cylinder failure.

Might be interesting to see what the spigot does when clamped in a torque plate

If it doesn't really move....maybe these will hold up

John, they do move. You can torque them down and hone em round just fine. Then, take the plates
off and put them back on, rinse and repeat. They get all kinda outa whack where the parting surface is.
(Not so much the spigot itself, but about 2" up from the bottom.)

That's been my experience anyway. Your mileage may vary.

Your experience?
How many of these new steel liner cylinders have you torque plated and honed?